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New Upkeep sucks for Strength players?
« on: July 20, 2011, 09:24:30 pm »
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I'm lvl 31 with 139 wpf in 2h. Build is 28/12, 4 weapon master. My MW highland claymore keep breaking often and cost me 899 every time. So what's the deal, Strength players with less wpf will break their weapons more often then agil player? This is unfair, I'm gonna break the bank if things don't change.

And with higher upkeep cost and less chance of breaking, but does that equal more upkeep overall?

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Re: New Upkeep sucks for Strength players?
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2011, 09:33:56 pm »
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I'm lvl 31 with 139 wpf in 2h. Build is 28/12, 4 weapon master. My MW highland claymore keep breaking often and cost me 899 every time. So what's the deal, Strength players with less wpf will break their weapons more often then agil player? This is unfair, I'm gonna break the bank if things don't change.

And with higher upkeep cost and less chance of breaking, but does that equal more upkeep overall?

Considering that strength builds are better it's justice.

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Re: New Upkeep sucks for Strength players?
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2011, 09:43:34 pm »
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I'm lvl 31 with 139 wpf in 2h. Build is 28/12, 4 weapon master. My MW highland claymore keep breaking often and cost me 899 every time. So what's the deal, Strength players with less wpf will break their weapons more often then agil player? This is unfair, I'm gonna break the bank if things don't change.

And with higher upkeep cost and less chance of breaking, but does that equal more upkeep overall?
AS a str build u can skimp on a lot of stuff like good armour or top tier swords as ur build will buff meduium lvl stuff to be just as good as a hier tier item in a balanced players hands.
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Re: New Upkeep sucks for Strength players?
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2011, 09:47:44 pm »
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If little old crappy skilled me can do this with a 36/3 11IF 12 PS guy using a HBS and robes, I am confident that STR builds do not require significantly more Armour any more then AGIL builds. Barely positive KDR but still... not bad for a nitch build that rarely uses armour and a HBS.
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Re: New Upkeep sucks for Strength players?
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2011, 10:16:48 pm »
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You seem to forget that shielder build have to carry a weapon and a shield and you are mostly a str build because if you go agility build with a shielder you wont kill anyone. So i think its even more unfair then your 2hander build that kill everyone in one hit.

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Re: New Upkeep sucks for Strength players?
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2011, 12:02:49 am »
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if you go agility build with a shielder you wont kill anyone.

Tell that to Matey.

Anyway, I think upkeep should be higher for exactly this reason. STR builds > AGI builds at the moment, and the more you bump up the upkeep, the more the teeter-totter will level out. The only issue I think is players sitting on mountains of gold who can ignore upkeep regardless.

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Re: New Upkeep sucks for Strength players?
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2011, 12:05:49 am »
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ok let me rephrase that, agility build with a shield and sword wont kill anyone.

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Re: New Upkeep sucks for Strength players?
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2011, 12:22:13 am »
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ok let me rephrase that, agility build with a shield and sword wont kill anyone.

yeah, like Kinngrimm. He doesn't kill anyone with his agi build.
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Re: New Upkeep sucks for Strength players?
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2011, 01:07:18 am »
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Upkeep sucks for strength players because you are probably under 100 prof, most strength crutchers have anywhere from 100-130 prof, the prof being greatly reduced by the heavy crutch armor you guys wear effectively giving you prof under 100.

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Re: New Upkeep sucks for Strength players?
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2011, 01:11:43 am »
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Why do you keep calling everyone a crutcher  :rolleyes:
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Re: New Upkeep sucks for Strength players?
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2011, 01:27:08 am »
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yeah, like Kinngrimm. He doesn't kill anyone with his agi build.

Is your boy using a sword or a blunt or piercing weapon?

With a score of 15 of str and 5ps if your using a 1h sword you need minimum 4 hits to kill someone that is high level. And if someone is using heavy armor 60 + armor rating you will barely deal any damage to him.

But the point is that someone complain that str build cost too much upkeep using only 1 weapon, while shielder have to carry 2 essentials things in their hands.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2011, 01:30:18 am by Vieuxcrotter »

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Re: New Upkeep sucks for Strength players?
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2011, 01:45:20 am »
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But the point is that someone complain that str build cost too much upkeep using only 1 weapon, while shielder have to carry 2 essentials things in their hands.

My two essentials, broken together, cost about 700 gold.  That's less than the cost of the OP's one weapon.  I also currently have hundreds of thousands in gold.

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Re: New Upkeep sucks for Strength players?
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2011, 02:20:56 am »
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Upkeep sucks for strength players because you are probably under 100 prof, most strength crutchers have anywhere from 100-130 prof, the prof being greatly reduced by the heavy crutch armor you guys wear effectively giving you prof under 100.

not to mention those god damn skill crutchers with their skill!
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Re: New Upkeep sucks for Strength players?
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2011, 04:14:35 am »
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not to mention those god damn skill crutchers with their skill!

I'm at a high enough level to consider most (all) players skilless compared to me except a very very few.

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Re: New Upkeep sucks for Strength players?
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2011, 04:16:11 am »
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The new upkeep system doesn't suck in any way for strength players, especially not for those who only uses one weapon like two handers.
It's a bit worse for those who uses all four weapon slots like throwers, xbowmen and archers... so I think the new upkeep system is both balanced and fair.
It only makes sense that higher proficiency makes your weapon break less often.
 
BTW, anyone knows if higher riding skill makes your horse die less often?