Why do we even need upkeep anymore?

[polkafranzi]

rage bump

i grinded hours and hours on my alt to have some fun playing with plated charger and good armour.

pathetic the way upkeep is worked out, and plated charger is 4.5k to repair...i mean seriously.

...there are people who have gold into the hundreds of thousands and into the millions, they are the sort of players that are able to use that stuff for a while.

If people want to use the very best of everything for more than 20 minutes, then they are going to have to dedicate some time to earning the gold to sustain it. You don't need the top equipment to have fun.

yeh yeh broski i know, my main has millions, but i said...

alt

Wanted to try it, seems unfair you have to spend so long doing something for so little reward.

[Gurnisson]

There are no my old friend items, just unblanced and OP items, like xbow.

Stop saying "NERF my COUNTER!!" 

[polkafranzi]

xbow isn't my counter xD pole is

cos i'm cav derp

[polkafranzi]

Plated charger is like a tank, and every medium skilled player with a heavy lance can kill shitloads of enemies with this tool, because it simply never dies. Ask Finn about it.

And my old friend items = OP items.

well...it is a plated charger, to be fair, arrows and swords etc would bounce off of the plate irl.  Fuck Finn, he quit cos of the upkeep and that was when it was a fraction of what it is now, which were actually pretty fair repair costs.

and trust me, the plated charger, it's easy to take out using light cav, do it all the time on mah main.

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[Dezilagel]

xbow isn't my counter xD pole is

cos i'm cav derp

No, I'm your counter :p

On a more serious note, I would like to see a less luck-dependant upkeep system. Especially when you wear the more expensive items you need to have quite a buffer to compensate for bad dicerolls. This hurts the new players, and I atleast don't find it "exciting" to wait and see how much upkeep I have to pay this particular round.

The level of upkeep I'm fine with tho, using a plated lolcher + massive armor + massive wep SHOULD drain your wallet pretty damn quick.

[polkafranzi]

On a more serious note, I would like to see a less luck-dependant upkeep system. Especially when you wear the more expensive items you need to have quite a buffer to compensate for bad dicerolls. This hurts the new players, and I atleast don't find it "exciting" to wait and see how much upkeep I have to pay this particular round.

good points, no troll for once...i'm impressed

No, I'm your counter :p

in which day-dream did you have these thoughts?

[Joker86]

Well, actually we can reduce the discussion to this:

The reason why you want to use the plated charger is exactly the same reason why other people (e.g. the developers, me,...) don't want you to use it.

You can name this reason whatever you want, the sentence above will stay valid.

And just on a friendly note: don't come up with realism, because this never works in an argument.

Oh an btw., just to mention it: I don't think this game has counters, at least balance is not based on them. So in my opinion it's not good to divide classes into counters if discussing balancing matters. If you don't agree with it feel free to open up a new topic and inform me about it 

[polkafranzi]

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Well, actually we can reduce the discussion to this:

The reason why you want to use the plated charger is exactly the same reason why other people (e.g. the developers, me,...) don't want you to use it.

You can name this reason whatever you want, the sentence above will stay valid.

And just on a friendly note: don't come up with realism, because this never works in an argument.

Oh an btw., just to mention it: I don't think this game has counters, at least balance is not based on them. So in my opinion it's not good to divide classes into counters if discussing balancing matters. If you don't agree with it feel free to open up a new topic and inform me about it 

you're a good joker

[Fkpuz]

yes, but at a lower cost with lower chance, not the current rate.

also don't come here and talk about best thing that ever happend when you've only played crpg since april so it would seem, you have no place here.

I've played it since you could retire once a week and only got exp for being near people who died.  I played it when everyone was running around in full plate armor and armored horses at generation 10+ keeping 10% of their wpf each time they retired. 

It was the most alienating thing for new players but I stuck with it.  However, of my 10 friends who tried it, nobody else stuck with it.  This speaks volumes to the state that cRPG was in.

Upkeep is the best thing that has ever happened to cRPG, sorry you can't use your plated charger in full tin can armor 24/7 anymore.  I grieve for your loss.

[polkafranzi]

Upkeep is the best thing that has ever happened to cRPG, sorry you can't use your plated charger in full tin can armor 24/7 anymore.  I grieve for your loss.

there is no loss, for fucks sake, can't you people read! if i wanted to i can buy a plated charger on my main and play him full tincan everyday for weeks on end.

it was an idea, to use, on an alt, and it's fail cos on an alt you can't really have all the gens and gold behind you.  Man you're dumb.  Re-read what i wrote before bringing sarcasm here.

[Fkpuz]

Perhaps make money cross character then, except for skip the fun characters.  Because reduced upkeep on alts (or no upkeep) would still recreate an annoying metagame.

edit: hey wait a sec you're not even the op, now I don't feel bad for reading your qq whinefests before responding to you.

[polkafranzi]

Perhaps make money cross character then, except for skip the fun characters.  Because reduced upkeep on alts (or no upkeep) would still recreate an annoying metagame.

good point and i sort of agree, no upkeep would be fail...but at least lower it a fraction, that's all i'm really raging about.

[Bobthehero]

I played it when everyone was running around in full plate armor and armored horses at generation 10+ keeping 10% of their wpf each time they retired. 

You are a fucking retard and a liar, there was never a spam of plate armor, sure there was more people but not everyone.

[Lichen]

Plated charger is like a tank, and every medium skilled player with a heavy lance can kill shitloads of enemies with this tool, because it simply never dies. Ask Finn about it.

Hmmm I guess those hits to the head with an iron staff downing them are my imagination. I think people exaggerate about the usefulness of plated horses (and players). I get killed WAY WAY more often from fast and 'weak' horses than the slow lumbering ones. They take a lot of damage...so what. That's not 'OP' considering their downsides.

[Corrado_Decimo]

I played it when everyone was running around in full plate armor and armored horses...

everyone in full plate? false. everyone used the best weight/armor ratio needed for personal likings. i never used heavier armor than coat of plates. and the most popular armor was the transitional.

... generation 10+ keeping 10% of their wpf each time they retired.

again, false. WPF retain was 5% + 5% every gen. so, gen2 5%, gen3 10%, gen4 15%, gen5 20% and so on.