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strategus rule update
« on: July 13, 2011, 11:27:19 pm »
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- towns, castles and villages cannot be used to [edit: mass] recruit troops any more (especially not down to 100). population just counts as defending troops.
- instead, a fief owner receives twice the amount of troops(=2) when successfully recruiting in this fief. maybe also twice the chance. not sure yet.

this is done so large factions grow linearly, not exponential. should also give latecomers better chances.

exponentials are only cool when i do them.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2011, 11:34:21 pm by chadz »

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Re: strategus rule update
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2011, 11:34:46 pm »
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sounds fair but why not faction instead of owner only ?

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Re: strategus rule update
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2011, 11:35:30 pm »
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- towns, castles and villages cannot be used to recruit troops any more (especially not down to 100). population just counts as defending troops.

Did I understand this correctly:

You can still recruit troops these places along with gold. You cannot, however, transfer pop and troops 1 to 1?

@Olwen: So you have a reason to hand out ownership?
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Re: strategus rule update
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2011, 11:42:07 pm »
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I'm not sure I understand this. So when the fief holder recruits troops in his own fief, he gets double.

What does "towns, castles and villages cannot be used to [edit: mass] recruit troops any more (especially not down to 100). population just counts as defending troops. " mean?

That non fief owners can only recruit up to 100? You can only recruit down to 100 pop?

sounds fair but why not faction instead of owner only ?

Because if the whole faction recruits 2x then the larger your faction the more you can recruit. His idea behind this is to have large and small factions raise troops on a more equal rate.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2011, 11:45:34 pm by Beans »

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Re: strategus rule update
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2011, 11:47:36 pm »
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What does "towns, castles and villages cannot be used to [edit: mass] recruit troops any more (especially not down to 100). population just counts as defending troops. " mean?

That non fief owners can only recruit up to 100? You can only recruit down to 100 pop?

It seems population to troop conversion was removed entirely, only manual player recruitment from now on.
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Re: strategus rule update
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2011, 12:04:59 am »
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It seems population to troop conversion was removed entirely, only manual player recruitment from now on.

Alright wouldn't it cause that big clans will try to have more land than the others to build bigger armies and therefore they'll be conquering more than the others and because of the amount of fiefs they will have the biggest army and it will slowly lead into one supreme force on the map, which no other force can stand against?
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Re: strategus rule update
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2011, 12:06:35 am »
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Actually, it sounds to me like this levels the playing field substantially. In old times troop conversion from villages gave fief owners absolutely massive armies compared to landless players, their recruitment advantage is reduced a lot now.
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Re: strategus rule update
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2011, 12:15:19 am »
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Actually, it sounds to me like this levels the playing field substantially. In old times troop conversion from villages gave fief owners absolutely massive armies compared to landless players, their recruitment advantage is reduced a lot now.

I agree but I'm not sure if I understand correctly

Lets do the math,

Noc has 2 fiefs with %100 chance of getting troops
chadz has 1 fief with %100 chance of getting troops

Daily recruitment amount : Noc: 96 chadz 48 Weekly : Noc : 672 chadz 336 etc.
Noc attack chadz, remaining troops of Noc, lets say 200.

Now Noc has 200+ 144 (daily) troops chadz = 0 weekly Noc has 200+1008

and it will keep multipliying until Noc becomes the supreme force and will clas with an another supreme force. Sooner or later it will become UIF vs Eastern faction situation

Please correct me where I'm wrong.
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Re: strategus rule update
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2011, 12:22:48 am »
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There's still an advantage, but it's not as big as you suggest because only the fief ruler gets the recruitment bonus. There's more than one player in a faction; basically, each controlled fief signifies an extra recruiting player as long as the owner is recruiting there.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2011, 12:37:03 am by okiN »
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Re: strategus rule update
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2011, 12:23:34 am »
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each player can recruit 1 troop/hour, with X% chances

each fief owner get 2 troops/hour with 2X% chances while recruiting in his own fief

not complicated ...

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Re: strategus rule update
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2011, 01:11:44 am »
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meh, strat server is still offline, no battle today, sniff QQ

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Re: strategus rule update
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2011, 01:15:47 am »
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meh, strat server is still offline, no battle today, sniff QQ

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Re: strategus rule update
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2011, 01:17:59 am »
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I agree but I'm not sure if I understand correctly

Lets do the math,

Noc has 2 fiefs with %100 chance of getting troops
chadz has 1 fief with %100 chance of getting troops

Daily recruitment amount : Noc: 96 chadz 48 Weekly : Noc : 672 chadz 336 etc.
Noc attack chadz, remaining troops of Noc, lets say 200.

Now Noc has 200+ 144 (daily) troops chadz = 0 weekly Noc has 200+1008

and it will keep multipliying until Noc becomes the supreme force and will clas with an another supreme force. Sooner or later it will become UIF vs Eastern faction situation

Please correct me where I'm wrong.

Obviously people with more fiefs will become more powerful... this update is just so they grow more powerful slower than they would before.

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Re: strategus rule update
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2011, 01:19:07 am »
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Re: strategus rule update
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2011, 01:24:31 am »
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Hmmm so there are no longer "citizens" in a fief. All citizens are soldiers?
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