Is all this perm death a joke now????

[Gafgarion]

3. Patchnotes don't exist because nothing was actually changed, we are part of a clever behavioral experiment.

I knew it! They talked about this in my psychology classes.

[runemaster]

How many hours does it take to get from 31-32?

And the developers think it's funny to trick a player into retiring, wasting countless hours of the player's time in order to have a chuckle at his expense and make him look like a fool in public.

Real classy, guys, keep it up.

[Myltinous]

i retired because i was afraid for getting a "perm death" i grinded to lvl 32 and now people telling me that it was a joke? WTF!!!
even chadz wrote somethign about that the "perm death" was true. So i believed him. omfg......!!!

GIVE ME MY CHAR LVL 32 BACK!!!! >_< or 2 heirloom points!!! :O

Sigh ...the typical case of caring more about leveling your char than playing it. Yes, it sucks that that happened. Yes, chadz shouldn't have been kidding around like that. But, in the end, all of it really shouldn't matter because one should be playing the game to, well, play the game, not to attach oneself with a ubur-grinded char. Look on the up side, you can start being effective again when you reach lvl 20, and that doesn't take long.

[Gorath]

Sigh ...the typical case of caring more about leveling your char than playing it. Yes, it sucks that that happened. Yes, chadz shouldn't have been kidding around like that. But, in the end, all of it really shouldn't matter because one should be playing the game to, well, play the game, not to attach oneself with a ubur-grinded char. Look on the up side, you can start being effective again when you reach lvl 20, and that doesn't take long.

As soon as you institute both a grind and a carrot on a stick (rewards for said grind;  IE  Heirlooms, bonus xp, etc) then the focus inherently becomes about grinding, rather than enjoying the game itself.  This is a time investment, not instant gratification, therefore having an attachment to one's uber-grinded character is actually completely normal and rational.  Time is finite for us and so typically when someone/thing wastes said time there's bound to be a negative emotional response.

If it was about playing the game and enjoying the game everyone would simply have skip the fun level 30's with no heirlooms.

[Bobthehero]

I am playing for the sheer fun of it, why do you think I spend most of my time in the duel server?
The fact that I can freely used my plate armor also helps.

[chadz]

Gave it back.

I'm not generally one to complain about trolling, but I have to say, I wish chadz/cmp/developers didn't troll as much as they do, at least in the context of patch notes or general announcements.  It's expected that when someone in an authoritative position posts about their game that they are passing on honest information.  Largely in part to the trolling is why I think there is so much misinformation about things in this game, and what effects different things actually have.  I understand that chadz wants to avoid a min/maxing mentality from the playerbase, but the constant trolling actually makes it less likely for players to take risks because they don't want to irreversibly damage their character.  I feel like the OP is a perfect example of this: thought he learned something new, decided to take action, and was ultimately penalized for trying something based on information given from a reputable source.  It just paralyzes players from taking new risks because they have no basis on what the risks truly entail.

In my defense, all we wrote was
"- added random chance of permanent death for old characters" - using that statement to get frightened to death is, well, naive

And apart from that, I don't think we did any trolling/pranks in the last few months? or did we?

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But I actually agree with you, it's just so tempting when you put lots of work in a patch, and you know for sure that all you get for it is a forum full of rage 

And we didn't expect ANYONE to fall for it, we really thought people would read that line, have a smile, and read on.

[Spawny]

Kudos.

I hope everyone learned his lesson here

[Gnjus]

Lol someone actually retired to escape death ? Hahahaha, impatient people. 

[Wanderer8]

Um I was like 38 and I retired.

[polkafranzi]

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no its not, here stolen from wikipedia, also I can attest to this definition as I have been on online since before the 1990's


In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory[citation needed], extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[3] The noun troll may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted". While the word troll and its associated verb trolling are associated with Internet discourse, media attention in recent years has made such labels subjective, with trolling describing intentionally provocative actions outside of an online context. For example, mass media uses troll to describe "a person who defaces Internet tribute sites with the aim of causing grief to families."[4][5]


The contemporary use of the term is alleged to have appeared on the Internet in the late 1980s,[8] but the earliest known example is from 1992.[9] Early non-internet related use of trolling for actions deliberately performed to provoke a reaction can be found in the military; by 1972 the term trolling for MiGs was documented in use by US Navy pilots in Vietnam.[10]

Early history

The most likely derivation of the word troll can be found in the phrase "trolling for newbies", popularized in the early 1990s in the Usenet group, alt.folklore.urban (AFU).[11][12]

Commonly, what is meant is a relatively gentle inside joke by veteran users, presenting questions or topics that had been so overdone that only a new user would respond to them earnestly. For example, a veteran of the group might make a post on the common misconception that glass flows over time. Long-time readers would both recognize the poster's name and know that the topic had been discussed a lot, but new subscribers to the group would not realize, and would thus respond. These types of trolls served as a practice to identify group insiders. This definition of trolling, considerably narrower than the modern understanding of the term, was considered a positive contribution.[11][13] One of the most notorious AFU trollers, Snopes,[11] went on to create his eponymous urban folklore website.

By the late 1990s, alt.folklore.urban had such heavy traffic and participation that trolling of this sort was frowned upon. Others expanded the term to include the practice of playing a seriously misinformed or deluded user, even in newsgroups where one was not a regular; these were often attempts at humor rather than provocation. In such contexts, the noun troll usually referred to an act of trolling, rather than to the author.


/ontopic LOL @ the guy who retired thinking he was gonna die, only problem was it wasn't kesh or it would be ultra LOL

trololo this is a troll brah:

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[The_Bloody_Nine]

And we didn't expect ANYONE to fall for it, we really thought people would read that line, have a smile, and read on.

Well, I think it would have been like this if there hadn't been some dutiful troll supporters in our lines, which almost convincingly told everyone and everywhere on the forums how their character died. 

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And to all the after-patch forum rage, you have to remind yourself that for every praise post/thread there dozens of players thinking the same but not saying so. btw, hurray for the changelog!

[Tzar]

Well the OP was 100k away from lvl 33 when he retired in fear of chadz trolling changelog... 

I guess if he had just turned 32 it would still suck but 100k for 33 

[Barbas]

And apart from that, I don't think we did any trolling/pranks in the last few months? or did we?

Strategus.

I know all of you are trying to fool me, but I'm not going to fall for it.

Even when every other player is talking about playing Strategus, even when the clans are claiming to be scheduling battles and working out diplomatic agreements, I'll know.  It's all one big hoax.

[bilwit]

chadz isn't a developer for a game. He is a developer of a mod. For an indie game. And the mod is still in Beta.

This is true. People forget that even though they're playing whatever popular mod, the devs aren't professionals so they don't need to act like it if they don't want to.

[Vibe]

Strategus.

I know all of you are trying to fool me, but I'm not going to fall for it.

Even when every other player is talking about playing Strategus, even when the clans are claiming to be scheduling battles and working out diplomatic agreements, I'll know.  It's all one big hoax.

The plot is uncovered, there is no strategus and never will be!