game balance of previous crpg version

[Torben]

ya.  this.

[Tears of Destiny]

I liked everything but cav (required a few tweaks) and Throwing (needed a buff) for the old game.

New game? I... I still need to get used to this, but I despise that Bows are worthless at long distance shooting and are 25mm depleted uranium automatic railguns for short range giving a massive middle finger to any melee that "dares" try to get near me without a shield...

My pew pew was nerfed too hard for range, but buffed too much for close shooting is what I am saying... I should not be wandering around with an automatic shotgun from hell... It should be a sniper rifle...

[Keshian]

I mostly agree though I think cav, especially lancers needed a rebalancing like this.  Archers didnt need a buff and a little more ammo for throwers but not back to 1 slot huscarl, 1 slot throwing lances (really?, my longbow/katana/practice longsword are all smaller than a throwing lance), those were some of the lamest people on the battlefield throwing a 1-2 shot kill device and then turtling up, they don't need a come back.

[DarkFox]

I like everything, except lancers and archers. Lancers need buff, archers need small damage nerf.

[Siiem]

I like lancers now, in the past couching was way too easy for its reward.

[Sumofallwars]

i thought mostly everything was bal in the last patch

 Cav did well
2-h did well
pole did well (bec need some bal issue)
archers were use full.
shields were balanced
x-bows were ok(needed some WPF adjustments)

Only throwing was useless.

Now how i see
archer>thrower>x-bow>pole>2-h>sheild>cav

Add to that the upkeep cost increase and it's clear.

Seems like the dev team keeps nerfing something and buffing everything else breaking the freaking game every item bal patch

[Lorenzo]

I agree with the analogy of Tears...

Man I hit hard! I'm not going to whine about it at all since i've got some of the best rounds I ever had but I must say that I feel sorry for the triple heirloomed tincans that I 3-4 shot in the chest..

I had 3-4 shot kills on tincans a lot but at least it was headshots!

Archers duels was a real pain for me b4 patch, now I dont even bother trying to kill the other ranged if he focus on me.

[Torben]

I like lancers now, in the past couching was way too easy for its reward.

couching hasnt changed dude

[Siiem]

couching hasnt changed dude

Oh? "- lance rotation limited to ~40°"

Is that not for couching or is it general lance movement?

[Torben]

Oh? "- lance rotation limited to ~40°"

Is that not for couching or is it general lance movement?

general lance movement.  couching was always limited to that

[Siiem]

general lance movement.  couching was always limited to that

Well then thats even better considering a MW heavy lance 1 hits without couching.

[a_bear_irl]

only real changes needed were:

fix to cav, i'd have tried a 20% speed decrease every time you hit someone from horse, 30% for a couch, 40% if you hit someone
slow the bec down
crossbows really really bad without wpf (i mean, shotgun-like accuracy)
change polestun somehow
change stabs
decrease in archery speed across the board

[Torben]

Well then thats even better considering a MW heavy lance 1 hits without couching.

arent u gonna miss getting impaled by my epeen?

btw any non mw lance or spear 1hits ya with speed bonus and headshot.

[Siiem]

arent u gonna miss getting impaled by my epeen?

btw any non mw lance or spear 1hits ya with speed bonus and headshot.

Well... not all of them do it with a body hit and a barely moving foward horse :S

[Torben]

Well... not all of them do it with a body hit and a barely moving foward horse :S

thats why i said speedbonus and headshot ^^