New repair values are much too high

[Seawied]

New repair values are too punishing. Even with 20k  worth of items I'm hemorrhaging gold.

[DarkFox]

Yes, I want to see all players using poleaxes and danish greatswords...sigh...

[Matey]

i havent tried it too much, but it sounds like a lot of people with reasonable gear are going broke in a hurry, maybe its just a bit too much? i think an increase was ok, but maybe not as much?

[DarkFox]

Where do people find such problems? I wear 28k and earning quit much

[Seabhac]

Just as an example a regular morningstar went from 330~ to 550~ and the top end 2 handers are around 1600 per repair, just double that for the top chest armor. Even x5 wont cover that in a round if all of your gear breaks, however for top gear that is expected I'd imagine.

Seems to me like they need to scale the repair % on items based on cost tiers. Would solve a lot of issues for those who play in a median armor/weapon tier range while still keeping upper to top end armor/weapons upkeep so expensive that players will always loose money regardless of multiplier.

[Seawied]

after playing a bit more, I realized part of the problem was the new price increase on my heavy-lance. With that out of the picture and using the light lance instead, my gold was a bit more stable.

I still prefer the old system though.

[Seabhac]

After playing some more I honestly believe there is a problem with the chance of repair in the patch, the patch notes state that it was lowered slightly but on the contrary it procs much much more often now.

With the following set up I have lost money over 10 or so rounds by about 1k gold. Morningstar, Nordic Fighters Helm, Light Kuyak,  Rus Calvary Boots, Leather Gloves. Which is 15,889 in total cost for the out fit, so to loose money on that sort of set up there is obviously something wrong.

[Gnjus]

From what i read on the forum so far it's not worth for me to even log-in with my 200k equipment, see ya lads when they fix it, since it looks I'll lose all my money faster then if it was a full wipe instead of patch.

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The horse itself is 150k. 

[Vibe]

It's a bit too much. Not to mention archers now hit harder, this was clearly not necessary. The repair costs were fine before patch.

[Gnjus]

Btw gratz Reyiz on making it to the developers team !


Judging by all the post about high repair costs i recon they hired you to do the billing. 

[Matey]

ok, have played for awhile. with my usual setup (padded coif, light leather boots, blue gambeson, lamellar gauntlets, huscarls, grosse messer, and broad one handed battle axe; approx value of 33k) i was breaking even. not so bad, but wouldnt hurt to lower it a bit... i was rocking pretty good multis to break even. i think the old upkeep system cost and frequency was fine for 95% of items.. just needed to make some items cost more, or make some items have a more frequent break rate.

[Seawied]

ok, have played for awhile. with my usual setup (padded coif, light leather boots, blue gambeson, lamellar gauntlets, huscarls, grosse messer, and broad one handed battle axe; approx value of 33k) i was breaking even. not so bad, but wouldnt hurt to lower it a bit... i was rocking pretty good multis to break even. i think the old upkeep system cost and frequency was fine for 95% of items.. just needed to make some items cost more, or make some items have a more frequent break rate.

Pretty much this. Not sure why they saw the need to change upkeep... It worked perfectly well before.

[Overdriven]

I lost 10000 gold in 4 maps. That's with multipliers as well, often at least a x4 on a few of them. If HA are suffering, how the hell is heavier cav going to survive?

[jspook]

I dont understand the reasoning behind making upkeep generally higher for every item in the game.
As it was stated in several threads:  Defending the upkeep change on behalf of nerfing the plate users a bit is a complete fallacy.  all that was required to do that is to increase the cost of the Plate itself.
even if the initial costs dont make a dent in your billionaire wallet, the increased upkeep (because of the increased costs) would be incremental, and the result would be a much higher drain over time.

This patch just seems to keep EVERYONE from using a decent amount of gear.  I really didnt see that many people on the field with Plate or Plated chargers these last 2 months.  So whatever the reason for this ubernerf, it cannot be because of "the overabundance of plate".

There have been several other serious and quiet nerfs that took place as well. 

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Like the double nerf on the Miaodao.  -1 from stock speed and another -1 from masterwork, leaving it at exactly the same speed it was when I originally purchased the item 6 months ago (96 stock speed original to 96 MW speed now).  This brings the item significantly out of alignment with the other items in its cost bracket.  there is no point in using it over other much more inexpensive items with almost the exact same or even higher stats now.  especially with upkeep increases

[Hunter_the_Honourable]

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my Poleaxe now costs 1,012 gold to repair (is mighty) and on my 1h character so far atleast 1 item has broken every round my warhammer now costs around 678 gold to repair, so on average it costs me around 800-1200 gold to repair 2 items on my 1h+shielder, so i dare not play as my heavy cav alt, this new upkeep system makes me afraid to wear even medium armor let alone plate.

Also I worked out (yes this is probably wrong, yes I suck at maths get over it) I cant remember the exact price of the poleaxe before the patch but I remember it was around 12.5K to buy so the repair cost was 625 (yes this is probably wrong so go ahead and correct me) so that's the 5% of the cost to by, now to buy it costs 14,470 to buy and with this new system of random % factor of increased upkeep the before (5-10%) it costs me 1,012 gold to repair my poleaxe that's 7%. it doesn't sound allot but if the cost of the poleaxe had gone up to 14,470 gold and it was still 5% to repair it it would cost 723 gold to repair.

Now your probably like ffs what are you talking about, all in all what im saying is that the extra 289 gold to repair my weapon doesn't sound allot but over time and depending on how often it breaks (so far its nearly evey round  ) eventually that extra 289 gold will add up and fast and empty your pocket very fast.

so in my view this new upkeep system is totally unnecessary and the old one was fine, yes lots of people did have hundreds of thousands of gold millions even but most of them didn't go around in plate 24/7 and when they did it wasn't for long.but if your thinking this new upkeep system is good they will lost their money now hahahahaha, yes your right they will HOWEVER so will you again your probably thinking yeah well ill just wear peasant stuff till I get enough money to wear average armor, and that sounds all good and well but 1 small points you forgot and that is you will get pissed of of being 1 hit by most people and rage so you will go in normal gear get whacked in the face with the upkeep and oh look someone has come to the forum to whine and QQ about "ITS NOT FAIR YOU TAKING MY MONEYS AND I CANT KEEP SAVING IT ALL IT TAKES TO LONG!!!" yeah well join the club of having no money no matter what you do and having to keep finding possible ways to save up. 

please bring back the old system this one is unbalanced and the repair costs are way to high even for the rich guys.