IF or Athletics

[Bulzur]

Every point of IF adds less absolute effective HP to an AGI build than a Tincan build, but relative to their existing survivability it's a bigger boost. IF is just as useful, if not more, to AGI melee builds.

If you have an AGI build, you shouldn't hesitate between putting a skill point in IF or in Athletics.
It's obviously in athletics, else what's the point in making an AGI build ?

[Okkam]

5 ps is good enough, just try weapon with pierce or blunt damage. (bec, morningstar, maul) or weapon with  high raw damage (great axe, war cleaver)

[Elerion]

If you have an AGI build, you shouldn't hesitate between putting a skill point in IF or in Athletics.
It's obviously in athletics, else what's the point in making an AGI build ?

Who said it was a tradeoff against athletics?

[Trikipum]

15-24 seems a waste in today's crpg IMO. The better player you get, the less agi you need. 15 str means a lot of hits to kill a decent armored guy. The block and attack mechanic works the same at 150wpf than at 170wpf. You will have enough time to counter attack after you block. If you are going ninja, then its ok i would say. But for a decent 2h warrior.. go for more str all the way. Diference between 2 hits and 4 hits to kill someone its more important than those milisecons of room the extra wpf provides to counter attack. Indeed i would say that you will get more kills if you need just to do 2 good blocks to kill someone than if you need a chain of 4 blocks and attacks. More chances of a failure and less hp to screw up. For me, the best 2h is 24/15. I only recomend those agi builds to new players and veteran players with not so good ping...or ninjas. It really helps when your ping sucks.  Salute

[Bulzur]

Who said it was a tradeoff against athletics?

Maybe the title ?

[Myltinous]

But if anyone else has any ideas in terms of getting both IF and Athletics feel free to say so.

[Loar Avel]

Put the point in athletic, the agi build wan't to be speeeeedy!


And because my main got a build really similary, I will say, don't put any point in IF, put them in shield, and after that you can go hunting the friendly bowman =)