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Re: Heavy Great Sword [Why is it so bad???]
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2014, 04:42:56 pm »
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get on EU_3 with me, if i wanted to i can stun lock you on every attack 100% chance, you won't even be able to take one swing i know all the weapons that can do this.
Did it against gurnisson while i was half-swording my german greatsword every attack was a stunlock and i knew it was going to stun from the start, just stun after stun forcing you to block until the duel is over either by you quitting or dying. its easy, can do it all day. it needs changing imo, when i used the barmace a while ago i was just stunlocking on purpose because i knew i could, works with alot of other weapons too.

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Re: Heavy Great Sword [Why is it so bad???]
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2014, 06:10:24 pm »
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Indeed it's OK, but why not make it just as good as other big ass 2handers?
I think it is in the name of diversification  :P

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Re: Heavy Great Sword [Why is it so bad???]
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2014, 06:41:03 pm »
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The HGS is heavy, as its name suggests, and in the right hands that makes it a pain for light weapon users.

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Re: Heavy Great Sword [Why is it so bad???]
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2014, 05:59:48 pm »
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The HGS is heavy, as its name suggests, and in the right hands that makes it a pain for light weapon users.
Indeed, it's a Nodachi with a thrust. Didn't Chase win the EU duel tournament with a Nodachi? That's right, he did.
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Re: Heavy Great Sword [Why is it so bad???]
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2014, 09:04:38 pm »
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Indeed, it's a Nodachi with a thrust. Didn't Chase win the EU duel tournament with a Nodachi? That's right, he did.

Well to be honest the nodachi was only a good choice because most of the competition was longsword-wielding ironclad tryhards.

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Re: Heavy Great Sword [Why is it so bad???]
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2014, 09:25:26 pm »
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It has 2 lenght and 3 swing damage less. How is it 'a nodachi with thrust' ? Doens't make sense at all. Jesus.
Because if you've ever seen anyone use a nodachi effectively, they do so by making weapon stun a core part of their playstyle. The fact that it can be said that the nodachi is viable due to it being effective vs longswords(light weapons, really), is a point in its favor, not some obscure bs that shouldn't be considered in balance. The idea that every weapon should be equally as good as the next in either the same type or amount of situations, is boring and not what anyone actually wants (it's also not how crpg has ever been balanced.)

Yes, the HGS is probably the most underpowered/underwhelming weapon of the 2h sword line-up, but please take a second to actually compare the stats to a few other weapons, particularly the Danish Greatsword. Whether or not people actually utilize the HGS to its full potential does in no way affect what the actual potential of the weapon is.

Of all the issues the HGS has, the main thing holding it back is how easy it is to read (big thick, shiny model).
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Re: Heavy Great Sword [Why is it so bad???]
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2014, 09:34:11 pm »
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Please dont change it.. Its still a somewhat rare weapon, and if its buffed itll be one of the generic 2h weapons aswell..  :mad:
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