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Re: Riddles - Play and win cRPG gold!
« Reply #150 on: October 20, 2012, 10:23:51 pm »
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You have done a heist with 4 other crooks named A, B, C and D. The sum of what you stole together is 10 gold pieces.

Because you are all psychotic and perfectly rational and selfish logicians, you come up with a very convoluted way of splitting the loot :

Crooks are ordered : you are first, then it's A followed by B, C, and finally D.

The splitting is done via voting. The first bandit that is not dead (if you die it will be A, if A dies too it will be B, etc.) makes a splitting proposal. Then everybody votes yes or no. If a majority accepts the proposal, the splitting is done and the game ends. If the majority refuses, the first bandit is killed and the next bandit makes a proposal, and so on.

What splitting should you propose in order to stay alive and get as many gold pieces as possible ?

- A "splitting" is the number of gold pieces given to each bandit. Example : 3 to myself, 2 to A, 4 to D, 1 to C and nothing to B. Numbers cannot be negative. You cannot break gold pieces (that means all numbers are integers). The sum of the amounts of gold pieces given to alive bandits must be 10.
- The majority of bandit means 50% of those alive or more, which means the proposal is accepted if the same number of bandits vote for and against the proposal too.
- Selfish crooks means everybody has the same goal as you.
- Each turn, everybody votes, including the one that made the proposal.
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Re: Riddles - Play and win cRPG gold!
« Reply #151 on: October 20, 2012, 10:45:25 pm »
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D will always vote no, as if he is the last one standing, he will win 10 gold.
C does not want you, A, B AND C eliminated, because in that case he would lose to D.
So C will vote no until B makes his offer.
B knows that his offer will probably be accepted. When he makes it, C will accept so as not to stand alone against D and D will reject it, but his vote will make it pass. So for maximum gold, he will vote no (unless made a good offer).
A knows that he is next on the line, and B, D will NO him, but as A, C get 50% of the votes, his will probably pass. So he will probably NO.
So you are doomed :P

Since D will always vote NO, offer him 0.
To get C's vote, give him 4 gold (more than 1/3, which is what he can expect at most from BCD)
As B will want to make his offer, give hiim 0.
A will probably be won by 4 as well.
So an offer for 2-4-0-4-0 would be my bet. You get 2, which is not too much, but will do

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Re: Riddles - Play and win cRPG gold!
« Reply #152 on: October 20, 2012, 11:01:27 pm »
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I'd say 7-0-1-2-0.

Explanation: As Moncho got right D will want to be everyone dead and votes no until only he and C are left to win by his 50%. That's why C would be happy with 2 gold pieces which is more than 0 and more than 1 which B would offer him when it's his turn. (He would do 9-1-0 and still win). If B voted no in the first proposal A would do this one: 9-0-1-0 and win. So B would by happy if he got only 1. So just give B 1 gold piece and C 2 gold pieces and they will vote yes for you.
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Re: Riddles - Play and win cRPG gold!
« Reply #153 on: October 20, 2012, 11:08:28 pm »
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D will always vote no, as if he is the last one standing, he will win 10 gold.

This is not true. when C and D are last, any proposal that C makes will always be accepted by "the majority", aka C himself. I changed the post to put emphasis on this.

C does not want you, A, B AND C eliminated, because in that case he would lose to D.
So C will vote no until B makes his offer.
B knows that his offer will probably be accepted. When he makes it, C will accept so as not to stand alone against D and D will reject it, but his vote will make it pass. So for maximum gold, he will vote no (unless made a good offer).
A knows that he is next on the line, and B, D will NO him, but as A, C get 50% of the votes, his will probably pass. So he will probably NO.
So you are doomed :P

Since D will always vote NO, offer him 0.
To get C's vote, give him 4 gold (more than 1/3, which is what he can expect at most from BCD)
As B will want to make his offer, give hiim 0.
A will probably be won by 4 as well.
So an offer for 2-4-0-4-0 would be my bet. You get 2, which is not too much, but will do

I'd say 7-0-1-2-0.

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Re: Riddles - Play and win cRPG gold!
« Reply #154 on: October 20, 2012, 11:16:43 pm »
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8-0-1-1-0? As C wouldn't get more than 1 anyway.

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Re: Riddles - Play and win cRPG gold!
« Reply #155 on: October 20, 2012, 11:18:03 pm »
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This is not true. when C and D are last, any proposal that C makes will always be accepted by "the majority", aka C himself.
True that, I missed it. It changes the position of C and D completely
In that case 0 for C
With giving 1 to D he will be happy enough
A will say 9-0-0-1, which will get accepted, so he will say no...
So I would go 8-0-1-0-1.
The 1 for C because if he says no, he will get 0.

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Re: Riddles - Play and win cRPG gold!
« Reply #156 on: October 20, 2012, 11:20:51 pm »
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Mistook D for C too lol.

And yes it's 8-0-1-0-1 instead of 8-0-1-1-0. I think Moncho got this first.
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Re: Riddles - Play and win cRPG gold!
« Reply #157 on: October 20, 2012, 11:31:47 pm »
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I have one too. You can use it in OP if you want.

1. In a street there are five houses, painted five different colours.
2. In each house lives a person of different nationality
3. These five homeowners each drink a different kind of beverage, smoke different brand of cigar and keep a different pet.

THE QUESTION: WHO OWNS THE FISH?

HINTS

1. The Brit lives in a red house.
2. The Swede keeps dogs as pets.
3. The Dane drinks tea.
4. The Green house is next to, and on the left of the White house.
5. The owner of the Green house drinks coffee.
6. The person who smokes Pall Mall rears birds.
7. The owner of the Yellow house smokes Dunhill.
8. The man living in the centre house drinks milk.
9. The Norwegian lives in the first house.
10. The man who smokes Blends lives next to the one who keeps cats.
11. The man who keeps horses lives next to the man who smokes Dunhill.
12. The man who smokes Blue Master drinks beer.
13. The German smokes Prince.
14. The Norwegian lives next to the blue house.
15. The man who smokes Blends has a neighbour who drinks water.


(I think some of you might have seen this riddle so I'm not going to give you any gold. Bonus e-peen high five for the one who knows who wrote this riddle.)
I know that Einstein wrote it saying only 2 or 3 percent of worlds population were able to riddle it

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Re: Riddles - Play and win cRPG gold!
« Reply #158 on: October 20, 2012, 11:36:18 pm »
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True that, I missed it. It changes the position of C and D completely
In that case 0 for C
With giving 1 to D he will be happy enough
A will say 9-0-0-1, which will get accepted, so he will say no...
So I would go 8-0-1-0-1.
The 1 for C because if he says no, he will get 0.

Exact :)

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Re: Riddles - Play and win cRPG gold!
« Reply #159 on: October 20, 2012, 11:55:12 pm »
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Re: Riddles - Play and win cRPG gold!
« Reply #160 on: October 21, 2012, 12:55:46 am »
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Some old, rich bastard on his wife's grave put cross with diamonds. Sth like that:

     O
     O
     O
     O
     O
     O O O O O O O O O O O
     O
     O
     O
     O
     O
     O
 
Each day man checked diamonds, always in the same manner; from the bottom of the cross to the end of left shoulder - 12 diamonds, to the top - 12 diamonds, to the right shoulder - 12 diamonds. One day some clever thief have stolen a few diamonds but Scrooge didn't notice that, still checks cross in the same way as previously and the number of diamonds is correct. What's happened?

Prize: 25 k. Answer to this riddle is easy.

PS Riddle isn't mine  :(

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Re: Riddles - Play and win cRPG gold!
« Reply #161 on: October 21, 2012, 01:20:44 am »
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Just move the horizontal put diamonds up like this and remove 2 diamonds each time :D
     O
     O O O
     O
     O
     O
     O
     O
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He could take 9 diamonds and the guy still wouldn't notice it if he checked the same way lol.
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Re: Riddles - Play and win cRPG gold!
« Reply #162 on: October 21, 2012, 08:51:43 am »
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As I said, it was easy  :wink: I remember it from my childhood  :mrgreen:
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