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Re: Bring Back Siege "Manual" Ladders
« Reply #60 on: July 18, 2012, 08:38:06 pm »
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Fuck you people have short memories. It was godawful. There were no maps that were defendable, you could make a ladder route straight to the flag from any direction. As a defender the only thing you could do was camp the flag, and still you would lose, because the attackers would flow in really quickly.

You 'd seriously rather camp the flag the whole time than have the interesting multi chokepoints defense we have now?

I'm sure HRE will be glad to hear this. They raped in siege and built ladderroutes to the flag every round in every map. A small clan group can still get a really good x5 going on siege, but back then they were unstoppable.

lol they were nowhere near as OP as you guys make it out to be. They had super low health and, when they were non-sheathable, it was plain as fuck to see people slowly carrying them to one side of the castle as a defender from the walls. You just follow them and with two hits, the ladder guy plus all the people following just wasted precious time. It even added a slight element of teamwork by having to call ladder locations in chat. When they made it so that no two ladders could touch eachothers, defenders could tactically place ladders on the edge of known ladder locations.

The only place they broke gameplay was in battle servers because asshole ranged players would use them to get to unreachable places and destroy them so no one could get to them.
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Re: Bring Back Siege "Manual" Ladders
« Reply #61 on: July 20, 2012, 02:11:53 am »
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Re: Bring Back Siege "Manual" Ladders
« Reply #62 on: July 23, 2012, 01:21:45 am »
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If they are put in again, they must break if less inclined than 30 degrees or so, and maybe they should have a maximum load (let's say three men for a regular ladder), that also breaks the ladder.

This would probably fix the two biggest problems with ladders: ladderbridges and attackers flooding up the ladders as if they were escalators.

Maybe a new skill could be introduced that is necessary to be able to use the ladders in the first place. Could also be used with other siege equipment.
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Re: Bring Back Siege "Manual" Ladders
« Reply #63 on: July 23, 2012, 01:33:47 pm »
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NO. NO ladders in siege. Ever. They are gone. We dont need them.

Now please move this to spam or close it.

No more talk about ladders.
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Re: Bring Back Siege "Manual" Ladders
« Reply #64 on: July 27, 2012, 12:16:53 pm »
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Thanks for the bumb.


If they are put in again, they must break if less inclined than 30 degrees or so

This could make ladders other than siege ladders useful.

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... let's say three men for a regular ladder), that also breaks the ladder.

Too many people would just charge the ladders anyhow. And it would open a new tactic for the defense where one player just needs to jump on the ladder to destroy it.

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This would probably fix the two biggest problems with ladders: ladderbridges and attackers flooding up the ladders as if they were escalators.

Are you talking about the sky ladders that were formed of many ladders put together? They removed that ability ages ago.

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Maybe a new skill could be introduced that is necessary to be able to use the ladders in the first place. Could also be used with other siege equipment.

I don't think this is a good idea. Nobody would invest in the skill, and one or two guys might be suckered into it in big clans.