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Re: My easy logic horse rebalance
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2011, 02:19:56 am »
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I think the high difficulty horses are that way simply to restrict horse archers from using them easily. Melee cav have don't have much problem investing those points into riding, but horse archers do. So I think the idea is that difficultly levels really only affect horse archers.

Wait what? We have no problem investing those points. It just takes until level 31. But I know a good few HA who can use Arabians.

And were you here when they were used by just about every decent lancer? They were a lancers horse, not an HA's horse.

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Re: My easy logic horse rebalance
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2011, 03:31:47 am »
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Wait what? We have no problem investing those points. It just takes until level 31. But I know a good few HA who can use Arabians.

And were you here when they were used by just about every decent lancer? They were a lancers horse, not an HA's horse.

Power draw, horse archery, riding, WM for WPF in archery as well as for a melee weapon... That's a lot of points to dish out. That sounds like a big deterrent to investing extra points in riding just for the particular horse. Sure, if you don't retire you'll get the points you need eventually, but that's true of almost any build.

And if HA can't use the Arabian till they are very high level, while melee cav have no problem getting it early and were never really bothered by the attribute point investment, then I'd still say that these cav have the riding cost they do just to make it tough for HAs to have them. After all, why would all the heavy cav be only 5 riding, even though they are probably more valuable to melee cav than these lighter horses. I'd say it's because these heavy horses don't really offer any advantage to HAs.



I used to use an Arabian quite often as a lancer. But that was back when archers weren't so ridiculously powerful. It's not a lancers horse now if you actually want to play the game and not have your expensive horse 1 shot because an archer pointed a bow at you.

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Re: My easy logic horse rebalance
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2011, 05:00:11 am »
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I agree with Kay's post about melee vs. ranged horses.

Reduce the cost of heavy horses so that they're more affordable. At the same time, reduce the amount of damage that they take so that they're less effective - they become more like slightly slower, slightly more sturdy versions of the light horses. This way it's possible for your average melee character to use a horse that's suited to his style.

Horse archers would have to take light horses if they wanted to escape from melee cav. Melee players could also take light horses of course, if they wanted a speed boost and the ability to catch ranged cav. It would make the class as a whole more balanced, and get rid of those obnoxious horsebumping tanks.

So, compared to now:
heavy cav would have less health/armor, but still more than light horses.
heavy cav's costs would be reduced so as to be comparable to light horses.
light horses stay pretty much the same.
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Re: My easy logic horse rebalance
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2011, 05:40:26 am »
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My experience here is somewhat limited to the courser--and I think that it's current riding requirement and price are perfect. That being said, I do ride about on other people's horses when I get the chance...

The destrier's riding is too low--I think six would be better. It's an excellent horse that is relatively affordable and very survivable compared to its unarmored brethren. I would say that it's tied with the courser for first place among the best of the unarmored horses, at least when the courser is ridden by a skilled rider. Indeed, destrier beats the courser in HP, armor, and charge stats.

Such a good horse shouldn't be available to any fuck with a paltry 5 riding.
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Re: My easy logic horse rebalance
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2011, 10:22:41 am »
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The only real inbalances currently are that the Palfrey sucks compared to Rouncey and Sumpter is useless. Make sumpter a pony (reduce model size), buff Palfrey a bit.

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Re: My easy logic horse rebalance
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2011, 10:37:04 am »
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BUFF 2H CAV

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Re: My easy logic horse rebalance
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2011, 10:49:28 am »
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introduce unicorns to the mod.  with pierce-charge damage.  and super-poop.
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