Cut damage for arrows and plated charger

[Dunecat]

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I made a suggestion and followed with a you guys are all morons for not thinking about it and then realized the way the game is now I was completely wrong making me the moron...

But if I said it right it would have been instead of damage determined by bow make it determined by arrow.  So you could have a piercing arrow that does ok damage but you only get 5 in a quiver to handle plate.  A regular arrow that does more damage and you get more but it is cut damage and then a blunt arrow that also does limited damage but can cause a knockdown or knock back/stun so you can fire it into a melee group and hopefully hinder the enemy but not completely slaughter your own teammate if needed.

I think making it more on arrow then bow is a cool idea.

But originally I made a statement that made me a moron... so that's all of it explained!

You managed to use word "moron" thrice in your post.
And that is something to be proud of!

[ZMaNFaRLee]

Yeah I left my thesaurus at home.... wait a minute

[Puppybull]

lol. Fixing problems always creates more problems it seems.
Sniper/Siege Crossbows have always been OP since you need 0 skill and 0 prof to 1 shot people.
Throwing in my humble opinion is the most overpowered weapon since you can use it point blank in melee or from reasonable range, and it does as much damage as a crossbow.
The arrow idea has potential.. nice one

[Havoco]

Agreed. And not only that, every ranged class is pretty weak now against horses.
Fact ... I can run around with a warhorse and don't need to worry about ranged 90% of the time.
Archers are weak and will be less and less common, crossbows are unsuited to shoot at fast targets, and throwing weapons are much too slow.

this is where you grab a warbow or longbow instead of a khergit bow or strong bow. if your using a strongbow or khergit bow then you shouldnt be able to kill horses easily,(poor HA) because of the speed rating you should be able to kill slow bow users (ie longbow) and crossbowmen easily.

[Nick_Larking]

this is where you grab a warbow or longbow instead of a khergit bow or strong bow. if your using a strongbow or khergit bow then you shouldnt be able to kill horses easily,(poor HA) because of the speed rating you should be able to kill slow bow users (ie longbow) and crossbowmen easily.

WTB Asymmetrical bow.

[Ujin]

I'm sleepy , therefore sorry if i mess things up in my post.

Archers are still good imo. After playing for a while, i just realised that they still dish out decent enough damage in a decent amount of time, from a good distance.

Now, using an argument of  " we can't kill a magical creature (and plated chargers will be, if not already, magical creatures, i rarely see one nowadays)  so we want pierce damage back"  is not right if you ask me.
Pikes, spears , xbows, throwers are the new cav counters and every day i can see them improving in fighting against horses. Archers on the other hand can be a good counter to xbowmen and throwers + they can still kill light horses (and,obviously, regular infantry aswell).

 I see almost no heavy cav on the servers nowadays in the first place, so i don't really get what is this all about to be honest. Archery is fine now, other ranged weapons need some slight changes though.

[Maira]

Hm.... throwers are a counter to archers, are they not?

[Helrekkr]

Hm.... throwers are a counter to archers, are they not?

At close range maybe ?
I don't think anything is a counter to a good archer at long range (XBows with similar WPF investments get close  but unless there's cover to be had, they only get 1 shot).

[Ujin]

At close range maybe ?
I don't think anything is a counter to a good archer at long range (XBows with similar WPF investments get close  but unless there's cover to be had, they only get 1 shot).

Exactly

[Murchad]

archers no longer counter cavalry. teams are adapting already and you are seeing more archers with spears and more pikemen. archers are good at taking out many other classes.
they are no longer the solo one man army class. they are a support class as they should be.

[Joxer]

archers no longer counter cavalry. teams are adapting already and you are seeing more archers with spears and more pikemen. archers are good at taking out many other classes.
they are no longer the solo one man army class. they are a support class as they should be.

Actually it's infantry and cavalry that is the support class. 

[UrLukur]

Actually it's infantry and cavalry that is the support class. 

All classes should support each other actually.