Range Spam in Eu1

[San]

I have seen very fast (8+ath) agi shielders like Malaclypse and Kartofflen get kited and shot by archers. I've consistently seen agi/balanced 2hs more successful with their great reach and speed. Even if you're in cloth, the shield ways too much and you move slowly regardless when you block.

Very high shield skill should lower shield encumbrance or provide a better dash effect while shielding and running forward like we have now when we don't hold block (with the same cancelling inputs). At the same time, lower the arrow weight to something a bit more reasonable. Agi shielders aren't good enough at offensively pressuring archers imo, and the prevalence of shields on the ground decreases the usefulness of shield skill. Even with this change, a melee hybrid archer could still give a lightly armored agi shielder some pressure, since any hit will be highly damaging.

Strength shielders like me should only be able to defend ourselves from archers, while the agility shielders should be able to chase them. Right now, we're in some crappy middleground where everything is just slow, and it's actually easiest for cav with shields to kill them at the cost of some horse health.

[Ronin]

I have seen very fast (8+ath) agi shielders like Malaclypse and Kartofflen get kited and shot by archers. I've consistently seen agi/balanced 2hs more successful with their great reach and speed. Even if you're in cloth, the shield ways too much and you move slowly regardless when you block.

Very high shield skill should lower shield encumbrance or provide a better dash effect while shielding and running forward like we have now when we don't hold block (with the same cancelling inputs). At the same time, lower the arrow weight to something a bit more reasonable. Agi shielders aren't good enough at offensively pressuring archers imo, and the prevalence of shields on the ground decreases the usefulness of shield skill. Even with this change, a melee hybrid archer could still give a lightly armored agi shielder some pressure, since any hit will be highly damaging.

Strength shielders like me should only be able to defend ourselves from archers, while the agility shielders should be able to chase them. Right now, we're in some crappy middleground where everything is just slow, and it's actually easiest for cav with shields to kill them at the cost of some horse health.

Everything is slow, besides no-shield infantry. A good ninja throwing snowflakes is as good as agi shielders for the task, if not better.

[Necrorave]

I have seen very fast (8+ath) agi shielders like Malaclypse and Kartofflen get kited and shot by archers. I've consistently seen agi/balanced 2hs more successful with their great reach and speed. Even if you're in cloth, the shield ways too much and you move slowly regardless when you block.

Very high shield skill should lower shield encumbrance or provide a better dash effect while shielding and running forward like we have now when we don't hold block (with the same cancelling inputs). At the same time, lower the arrow weight to something a bit more reasonable. Agi shielders aren't good enough at offensively pressuring archers imo, and the prevalence of shields on the ground decreases the usefulness of shield skill. Even with this change, a melee hybrid archer could still give a lightly armored agi shielder some pressure, since any hit will be highly damaging.

Strength shielders like me should only be able to defend ourselves from archers, while the agility shielders should be able to chase them. Right now, we're in some crappy middleground where everything is just slow, and it's actually easiest for cav with shields to kill them at the cost of some horse health.

Now, I can see where you are coming from about shields.  They do hinder speed a bit too much sometimes.  So maybe agi-shielders do not have as much of an edge.  Although, I rarely see archers kite with high speeds considering the amount of weight they carry too.

In all honesty though, you do make a valid point about what things should be like.  Although, there are a couple mechanics like this that could fix "Kiting".  (I agree that kiting can be a problem, but nerfing anything is stupid.)  Although adding something like this would be fine by me. 
Although, the balance thing would be an issue.  Maybe if they have 2 shield skill more then the requirement it starts to add this effect?  I wouldn't want people with Huscarls running around at full speed.

Ranged is not a problem.  Kiting can be (Sometimes)  So do something about kiting that does not hinder ranged in general.

[Grumpy_Nic]

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Buff headhots. This is a 12/27 build with 0 IF. Bolt in my head and still alive. 14 head armour.

Edit: wow gurni, a -1 vote 5 seconds after I posted this. Are you stalking me by any chance. Wuv you too.

[Panos]

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Buff headhots. This is a 12/27 build with 0 IF. Bolt in my head and still alive. 14 head armour.

Edit: wow gurni, a -1 vote 5 seconds after I posted this. Are you stalking me by any chance. Wuv you too.

there are two chances.

A) You got shot by a hunting crossbow, with bolts
and
B) The game registered a torso hit, and not a headshot.


Anyhow, add PD to xbows.

[Necrorave]

Adding PD to xbows will only make the damage worse.  If anything it will lower the ability to kite, but it is silly and unrealistic to have a "Skill" to use a crossbow.

San's idea makes more sense because it does not involve nerfing or buffing anything.  Just a change in mechanics (Maybe consider it a shield skill buff of a sort, although it will not affect everyone)

[Grumpy_Nic]

By the way for all you whiners, there is a melee server which is not populated. You can always go there but what would you cry about then? Pathetic.

[El_Infante]

Im a tincan, and I don't care about archers.