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Would you buff plate? If you would, how? You can pick up to two options.

Yes, buff everything! I want to be robocop.
Reduce weight.
Increase strength buff for weight.
Decrease upkeep cost.
Nerf heirloomed medium/light armor.
Increase armor.
Change armor/glance values.
Nerf everything else (again).
No. I don't like canned meat.

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Re: Buff plate [Added poll!]
« Reply #90 on: August 22, 2012, 08:59:09 pm »
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Lol bro plate is piece of shit i use light armor it rocks im fast and i deal good damage

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« Reply #91 on: August 22, 2012, 09:11:36 pm »
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Show me a good plate user who DOESN'T use a maul

First few that spring to mind:

BkS_Rhade and his whateverthefuckheuses (Half the time I see him on c-RPG I see him with it, maybe luck)
BkS_Tyrian and his Danish (Transitional)
Fallen_Oohilac and his Long Spear (Plate)
RandomDude and his flamberge (Gothic)
Old Miley and the Flamberge (Hilarious memories of that winged helm and milanese)
Allers and whatever whacking thing he decides to use, whether practice long sword or a proper weapon.
Old Goretooth and old black plate and his bec, say what you want but even without his black plate and in just rags he proved to be deadly.

Also Ryan of TKoV is pretty scary when he rocks transitional (like last night), and he uses a wee two hander. Though he is pretty scary in mail too...
« Last Edit: August 22, 2012, 09:15:44 pm by Tears of Destiny »
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Re: Buff plate [Added poll!]
« Reply #92 on: August 22, 2012, 09:17:31 pm »
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you will have just as much killing power except every attack on you does almost no damage whatsoever or glances, while being immune to most ranged.  Its a massive advantage to survivability and a trade off in mobility. 

I have lordly gothic palte with bevor, lordly sallet with coif, and lordly heavy gauntlets. The heaviest gear behind milanese. I went for bevor for head armor (which means absolutely nothing now, something what I can eventually live with). The protective results are sad.


If you've read any of the thread you would see the people's experiances were quite different, and I HAVE decent agility in my plate (18/21). Glancing? Doesnt really happen unless an archer tries to melee me with his petite axe or hammer (which still sometimes knocksdown). It used to glance more often with the old armor values, now even when I hug the enemy on his starting swing side, basicly on his flank, he still hits me and stuns me and more often then not does full damage. Hybrids do a lot of damage with swords too.


And immunity to ranged? That, sir is the biggest lie told so far. Longbow - 2 hits. Arbalest - 2 hits. Warbow - 3 hits. High power draw tartar - 4,5. Headshots are all 1 except for warbow rarely and tartar mostly. Killing power? I get damage reduction which isnt really that big of a deal, but the speed reduction sure as hell is. I know how to block. Any decent player does. That's why its still a friggin hard ass job to land a hit with so much speed reduction. It is very much notable I can slash my way through peasants, sure. Peasant archers won't hurt me, just as they wont hurt anyone. They will glance on me, sure. But they pose no threat to anyone.  Every real archer uses bodkin arrow, and it goes through plate like paper, just like everyone else. I'm not whining about ranged. I'm implying that it's no different.
 
Also, I'm not talking about armor str crutching nabs who take 20 hits. They are absolutely useless. If you read this thread at all, you would see I already pointed that out. On competitive scale? Plate is utterly nerfed. And all those would-be "hardcore" players know it. Again, I am not asking for some impossible buff. I just want to make it useful, because it feels like such a waste even just having it out there for nothing but show.

Show me a good plate user who DOESN'T use a maul. Now show me a good player who DOESN'T use medium armor. There's a reason for that. Doesn't matter much to me though anymore as it's obvious to me by now that using plate is simply very foolish and very limited use (it's good if you use a maul with it).

You are just helping my logic, sir. Those ARE the problems. Nobody in their right mind would use plate cause it is useless in a higher skill level player base. Also a side note, I don't know wher you play, but most GOOD maulers (there are a LOT of bad maulers, more than good ones) don't go higher then heraldic transitional, which is not an armor I am concerned about and consider plate. Read thread.
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Re: Buff plate [Added poll!]
« Reply #93 on: August 22, 2012, 10:23:17 pm »
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I have to ask - where do you get money for all that most expensive stuff, I'm just going nuts when my equipment costs more than 50k and I can't get money from fighting... what is it, strategus, clan mates, trading?
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Re: Buff plate [Added poll!]
« Reply #94 on: August 22, 2012, 10:44:45 pm »
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I have to ask - where do you get money for all that most expensive stuff, I'm just going nuts when my equipment costs more than 50k and I can't get money from fighting... what is it, strategus, clan mates, trading?

Selling looms (loom points) is a good way to earn it. Me personally tho, played the game for a loooong time, it accumulates. I always keep a steady balance of at least 500k so I never run out of repair money.
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« Reply #95 on: August 22, 2012, 10:47:58 pm »
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Give up Georges devs don't give a shit about plate armor along with throwing these 2 things are on their top list of things to ignore..
I've never played a server where people split up as much or as often as on EU1.  No wonder range is having a field day.

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Re: Buff plate [Added poll!]
« Reply #96 on: August 22, 2012, 10:52:45 pm »
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Give up Georges devs don't give a shit about plate armor along with throwing these 2 things are on their top list of things to ignore..

lol, yeah throwing that 2 shots heavy infantry players because heavy throwing axes do the equivalent of 50 pierce damage per hit, ~~crpg devs why have u forsaken me~~

not surprised that the same people who think heavy armor is underpowered think throwing needs a buff too
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Re: Buff plate [Added poll!]
« Reply #97 on: August 22, 2012, 10:54:42 pm »
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Increase plates effectiveness against projectiles
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Re: Buff plate [Added poll!]
« Reply #98 on: August 23, 2012, 12:53:16 am »
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Give up Georges devs don't give a shit about plate armor along with throwing these 2 things are on their top list of things to ignore..

No need to be so fatalistic :)
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Re: Buff plate [Added poll!]
« Reply #99 on: August 23, 2012, 04:18:04 am »
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it's more defeatism than fatalism... though devs seem to be like fate regarding mod...  ah nevermind

Selling looms (loom points) is a good way to earn it. Me personally tho, played the game for a loooong time, it accumulates. I always keep a steady balance of at least 500k so I never run out of repair money.
Yeah... I have no idea how it happened, but at 4 gen I have less money than I should, buying different items just for try was stupid... ah and lottery :P
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