Communism? You'r thoughts?

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Word.

That is something we can both agree on.

I just hope people stop electing her and Clive Palmers cronies. Newman won the election in Queensland by basically only saying "I'm not that other guy!" and for the last 4 months the dude has just smashed and destroyed everything he can. Any organization that isn't heavily involved or investing in his political party has had it's funding either reduced substantially or cut all together, his a pro at being a dick head.

Him and Abbot are best bum buddies too so it makes me a bit terrified to think what will happen if that flake gets in charge, especially with his biggoted idiotic rhetoric about China and foreign ownership of land.

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99% of the forums are reading this ^ and thinking... what's who now?

Neither one of you would exchange the system you live under for any of the communist systems that have ever been created.  I just love "Gucci Commies".  They are all teary eyed over the wonders of communism while they drive Mercedes and wear designer clothing.

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You can't use the fact that millions were killed by people that called themselves communists to value an ideology that does not justify any of these actions. The people are to blame, not the ideology, which is rather sound in theory. Marx was an optimist though, we've all seen how well it works in practice though, certain individuals are to blame for that though, not the ideology.

Condemn totalitarianism, not communism.

Gotta condemn it Teeth.  Communism fosters mediocrity.  It's human nature not to try harder than the next guy if your work is not rewarded commensurately. 

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"Communism" is plainly false and empty rhetoric that has been primarily used to justify totalitarian regimes that strip away individual liberty and dignity, hijacking the valid concern of equality and the dangers of unchecked capitalism.

Instead people should turn to platforms of social democracy, government mandated systems that ensure equal social rights like education, healthcare, unions, and no discrimination based on gender race religion or orientation, founded in the post-Marxist liberal socialism school of thought.

The "welfare state" is the derogatory term for this kind of system but I think it would be more accurate to say "Not putting corporate interests and individual wealth above the prosperity of an entire people" State instead.

Sadly America veers hard right of this line of thought, because our right-wing citizens are so absurdly backwards, our "conservative" politicians can hijack their barbaric positions on social issues to blindside their base with an entirely profit/corporation driven agenda that does more to deprive these commonly uneducated, underemployed citizens of fulfilling lives (no healthcare, no jobs, no education, no credit) then gays getting married or women getting birth control ever could.

Socialist thought is way out of the mainstream in America, and in fact is some sort of boogey man.  President Obama managing to pass through a watered down, practically inconsequential baby steps of health care reform so that insurance companies can't literally drop you causing you to die the moment you get too sick and some other things, doing this has branded him an Islamic Fascist Socialist Communist friend to at least 1/3 of America, most of which don't even believe he is American and would probably spit on him/kill him if they had the chance.

Fuck America, and fuck you Gomer.

And fuck you back from America.