Solution to the Strength Madness???

[rustyspoon]

And this could be countered by removing extra HP from strength. And maybe increasing damage bonus from WPF.

Having WPF increase damage more than it does would be nice.

Removing extra HP from str would hurt people who don't take IF. I have a feeling that most people who don't take IF are agi builds also...

[San]

I just find it odd how one can get free hp from strength and free wpp from leveling up.

Free wpp is not inherently bad, I think it's just in the way in which one can acquire these points where it's weird. Free wpp from agility seems fine to me.

1. Balances out free hp from strength
2. Hybrids unaffected (have higher agility/WM anyways)
3. Weapon swing speeds properly differentiated. 110 may not be much different than 160, but when it is much easier for agi characters to acquire high amounts of wpf, the difference would be notable against str builds.
4. Balanced builds shouldn't be affected too much, the amount of agility that they have would provide around the same or maybe even more for free wpp.
5. Pure strength builds with a tiny bit of agi and 1-2 WM can still acquire enough wpf for a single weapon.

Minuses:
1. WM itself would still be very weak, so seeing medium agi, 0 WM builds may still be prevalent.


Maybe a slight buff to higher levels of WM in addition?

[Zanze]

Reduce base damage of weapons. Increase speed bonus.

[Vexus]

Remove free wpf from leveling and give it to agility.

[rustyspoon]

I just find it odd how one can get free hp from strength and free wpp from leveling up.

Free wpp is not inherently bad, I think it's just in the way in which one can acquire these points where it's weird. Free wpp from agility seems fine to me.

1. Balances out free hp from strength
2. Hybrids unaffected (have higher agility/WM anyways)
3. Weapon swing speeds properly differentiated. 110 may not be much different than 160, but when it is much easier for agi characters to acquire high amounts of wpf, the difference would be notable against str builds.
4. Balanced builds shouldn't be affected too much, the amount of agility that they have would provide around the same or maybe even more for free wpp.
5. Pure strength builds with a tiny bit of agi and 1-2 WM can still acquire enough wpf for a single weapon.

Minuses:
1. WM itself would still be very weak, so seeing medium agi, 0 WM builds may still be prevalent.


Maybe a slight buff to higher levels of WM in addition?

This is actually a good and reasonable idea. I like it.

[Lemmy_Winks]

Um i haven't read anything in this thread, but i see no problem with strength builds. If you can block, at all, you can easily beat one in a fight. You may have to hit them a bunch but if you can block that is not a problem. I actually think balance/agility builds are better.