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Re: Shields: re-imagined
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2012, 03:01:19 pm »
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How is that a good thing?

They will survive longer when they put shield on their back to fight shieldbreakers :wink:

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This would make a shieldwall uselss, not too keen on this idea

Unfortunately, yes. I hope shieldwall coverage can be buffed so that every single shield in wall has current forcefield values but only when its part of shield wall.

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Re: Shields: re-imagined
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2012, 03:01:44 pm »
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Only change shields need is to make forcefields exactly the same as their models are. This way it would make sense to take big shields for archery defense or small shields for speed advantage and less ranged defense.
I reckon it would also be harder to strafe around shielders and making them more efficient in blocking pathways.

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Re: Shields: re-imagined
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2012, 03:04:11 pm »
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They will survive longer
NOT GOOD

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Re: Shields: re-imagined
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2012, 03:07:00 pm »
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And about archers...

I said I won't open new thread so I'll just say it here. They get 20% on damage output, get melee capabilities buff but also lose their kiting abilities aka while using a bow they'll be a lot slower than they are now. There you go, now shielders can catch archers.

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Re: Shields: re-imagined
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2012, 03:59:47 pm »
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And about archers...

They get 20% on damage output

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Re: Shields: re-imagined
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2012, 05:10:01 pm »
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Decreasing shield weight increases the chance of block stuns and garentees crush through(sometimes little to no damage occurs when close enough to hammer and with a heavy shield) so, those "buffs" are actually major nerfs.

Havnt noticed a forcefield with 4-5 shield skill using anything except huscarl. I often get hit by side swings, aimed arrows, jumping throwers, unless I face the attack direction. Perhaps due to server lag my opponent doesn't see my quick mouse jerk to get the block. (Pssst, Nother reason to not buff agi, server can't keep up and you will have 6-8 shield skill shielders)

So, the problem isn't shields. It's the huscarl and dinner plate.....just fix those models.

Something that decreases shield penalties for looms would be nice. Or maybe the ability to get a shield bash(does some blunt dmg based on shield weight and geometry(has a boss, or metal edges), and player can't move) that keeps guard up throughout the bash(maybe knockdown  chance based on shield weight and str). (Kick currently drops guard, no knockdown, and minuscule damage)

Definately would enhance shielders gameplay.
 
Maybe a shield parry, tapping rmb while facing correct direction parries attack.
Causes polestagger effect.
 
The presented theory here is, the more offensive capability you give shielders. The easier it will be to kill them because they will be more wreckless.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2012, 05:18:12 pm by Spa_geh_tea »

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Re: Shields: re-imagined
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2012, 12:43:16 am »
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leshma if you deleted your post that doesn't mean that peps can't read that.

and i am with you ,shields need change, if i can deal witch archers with 15 agi and no shield skill then why shielders can't with moving cover????

And don't give me shit about not being able to block arrows, if you can move turn around and take your shield higer upper or lower that means then you can block arrows.

what about non ranged fights???
do the same, its way easier than manual bloking.

You want full protection from arrows in one direction??? take bord shield.

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Re: Shields: re-imagined
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2012, 12:57:07 am »
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And about cavalry...

I said I won't open new thread so I'll just say it here. They get 20% on damage output = get melee capabilities buff but also lose their kiting abilities aka while using a horse they'll be a lot slower than they are now. There you go, now shielders can catch cavalry.

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Re: Shields: re-imagined
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2012, 01:04:00 am »
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And about birds...

I said I won't open new thread so I'll just say it here. They get 20% on bird shit output, get melee capabilities buff but also lose their kiting abilities aka while using wings they'll be a lot slower than they are now. There you go, now shielders can catch birds.

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Re: Shields: re-imagined
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2012, 01:06:22 am »
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The only good suggestion I have heard thus far is nerfing shield's force-field around horses. That is a  particularly annoying feature.

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Re: Shields: re-imagined
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2012, 01:07:11 am »
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The only good suggestion I have heard thus far is nerfing shield's force-field around horses. That is a  particularly annoying feature.

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