Crush-thru weapons that need to be nerfed...

[rustyspoon]

Full str builds will be rendered useless if this gets nerfed, really.

Normally it's just people who are way to passive if they lose to these builds.

Why are people whining now, and not before btw? When plate was virtually costless this build was OP as hell, yet none cared.

I think a lot more people are talking about crush through now because siege is much more popular. If you've ever charged up a ramp and were met by half the opposing team wielding crush through weapons you know how much it sucks.

[Soldier_of_God]

Where's the option "none" ?

this is not a yes or no poll, this is about people who think a particular crush through weapon is op. if you cant vote on the poll, then you aren't the type of person that thinks that crushthrough is a problem. and if thats the case... there are lots of other threads around here saying they're not if you wanna defend it.

that is meant to all the "wheres the none option" people, not personally.

[Momo]

Another whine topic about nerfing crushtrough. It's totally fine, and you need a lot of PS for it. Fix the lolaxe instead .

[Michael]

The spiked mace? lawl are you serious about that one? You would need 15 power strike to crush through with it through a peasant turtler.

How many topics do you want to make?

With my shielder, I lost against Barmace and Co when I forgot to bring a sword. Well, that was my fault then, if I noticed my mistake in time I turned around, picked up a sword and killed him.

With my lancer, on foot, with 0 athletics I never had any problems against Barmace, I simply spam left-right-left swings with long hafted knobbed mace/ blade, etc.


Whatever. As usual the crybabes get what they want. So lets remove crushthrough from every named weapon.

Mauls etc just make shorter than the peasants sickle and slower than flamberge/ long great bardiche. Wait, its already a lot slower. lol

[Xant]

So Michael, you never get overheaded by the greatswords either? With your 0 athletics?

Funny.

[Memento_Mori]

With my lancer, on foot, with 0 athletics I never had any problems against Barmace, I simply spam left-right-left swings with long hafted knobbed mace/ blade, etc.

 

Fire vs Fire, Long hafted Knobbed mace is 34 blunt, balanced, & 94 speed, 138 length VS Bar mace, 35 blunt, unbalanced, 94 speed, 96 length. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm who's gonna win?

[_JoG_]

Basically, I was feeling pretty comfortable with the current weapon balance and didn't care much about the common "nerf everything that kills me" forum whine until one thing happened. Once in a siege server, I picked up a mighty bar mace from the ground. I was able to crush through ANYTHING (shields (including the best ones), polearms, 2h swords, ...) in 100% of cases. The funniest thing is that my character had only 18 strength by that time and 160+ 2h weapon proficiency. So, (1) I could not be outspammed by anything; (2) all I had to do is to block my opponent's first attack and then kill him.

It was the weapon that made a difference. The crushthrough with those long and relatively fast weapons should be nerfed since there's no way to escape it unless the barmacer is a complete newbie.

[Vexus]

It's been said so many times Its getting annoying now.

Bar mace, long iron mace and probably studden warclub too are going to lose crush through next patch.

[Beauchamp]

I think crushthrough should be removed period.  Any weaopn that completely negates your RMB defenses is gamebreaking.  Shields already have a counter in bonus damage to shields which is plenty.

crush through was introduced into warband to disadvantage turtling against those that take the action. those moving, attacking, taking action should always benefit over those that are just hiding in a cover - the only problem is that its a bit unbalanced for some weapons aka barmace. but this will be fixed sooner or later.

[Rextard]

If spiked mace gets nerfed, then there will be no point to sell it at all.

[Dante_Goujian]

If spiked mace gets nerfed, then there will be no point to sell it at all.

Agree

[UrLukur]

If spiked mace gets nerfed, then there will be no point to sell it at all.

So what ? There is no point selling most 1h swords as well.

[Rextard]

Wellllll, it's short as shit, and its crushthrough is already useless. I've noticed some problems with reach on the overhead; a fair few times now I've gotten an overhead animation going straight through someone's head, and I am rewarded by having to watch a slower or later timed attack come in and kill me. Quite possibly some of those instances have been lag related, but some fights where it happened lag wasn't an issue.

[owens]

Your all fools for a start a vote with no none option is pointless and those weapons are all shit. Before you start your whining and trolling think about this a 2 handed sword is faster does equal or more damage has more attack directions and is balanced. I understand that it is frustrating to be crushed by one but they are far worse weapons statistically until you get that fabled knockdown.

Its my opinion that if the speed of these weapons is nerfed than the chance off breaking block should go up. If break block is removed these weps will die out and you whining fools will be to blame.

[Boroda]

Maybe it should have less weight?
cus now crushthru with barmace is real wigh str 18+ with holding and running forward, and with str 30 with holding strike and running forward...
So... make the difference!
 Agi builds should be unable to crushthru...... str builds should be able but slow mowing....
smth like that

but nerfing this weapon, cutting off crushthrough ability at all,  will make this weapon useless