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General Discussion / Re: New moneysink please
« on: January 07, 2011, 08:57:13 am »Get a plated charger + black armor with 4 steel shields
Just curious , how much would it cost to upkeep those items ?
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Just curious , how much would it cost to upkeep those items ?
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General Discussion / Re: chadz and cRPG - a lovestory!
« on: January 07, 2011, 08:53:27 am »
i feel ashamed i whined and biatched but i like cRPG as it is and i play the mod
i do think you tweaked archery, aimed is more precise either that or i adapted
TY
i do think you tweaked archery, aimed is more precise either that or i adapted
TY
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General Discussion / Re: I just wanted to let chadz know...
« on: January 06, 2011, 07:15:47 pm »
yes, where are my manners. Even though i dont fully agree with your options for the new version of cRPG, i cant really complain that much, since im quite new to the community. You are doing all this in your own free time and you ask nothing in return, so thanks alot
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General Discussion / Re: Fix list
« on: January 06, 2011, 12:51:32 pm »I would actually be very much in favor of having Strategus have upkeep and the regular crpg mod keep the old system/ no upkeep. That way, hardcore players are happy, and we get to have our fun. I often found it amusing when I was able to tear open a tin can with my light infantry, so I don't really mind the few heavy armors that I've met.
upkeep is not bad if its moderate, it adds RPG element to player progression, i think its quite unbalanced atm thou . i use crap gear i pay close to nothing
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General Discussion / Re: Fix list
« on: January 06, 2011, 12:27:19 pm »Sigh.
Their AFKing isn't going to let them keep equipment as it is the team loss that counts.
You don't need to be AFK to save equipment, you just need to economize. Take cheap weapon and armor and you'll be rich in no time. You CAN kill with cheap weapon and armor, heck I run around with a fork and peasant shirt and get to top3 on the chart every now and then if I'm focused.
Please don't try to make it look like you can't play without plate and flamberge because you can.
I know, i use pilgrim tunic and strong bow n some boots and arrows , i pay nothing for upkeep wich makes it unfair.
*if im a heavy inf. and i play a round and i lose in a crap team, i would surely un-equip all my gear and afk until end of battle, and thats what´s happening
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General Discussion / Re: Fix list
« on: January 06, 2011, 12:16:19 pm »I love new archer animation too
Actually it clearly shows how your points are flawed as a result of not enough thinking.
I will not bother with the rest of your post, I'll just demonstrate it on this part. People AFKing has nothing to do with their inability to adapt. It is a result of "gold per minute" instead of "gold per proximity" system. Siege mode had the same system pre-patch, and it also had 'no afk' rule. Why? Because you get gold regardless of your activity. You can stand still and still earn gold. Now you have the same in Battle.
No , ppl afk because they cant pay upkeep, not because they want to get rich, ppl afk because they dont want to damage their equipment, or they run naked in stacks wich is pretty hilarious i must confess
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General Discussion / Re: The "We compare-upkeep-costs" thread.
« on: January 06, 2011, 11:24:39 am »
pilgrim hat 4gold upkeep
pilgrim disguice 70gold (or so) upkeep
leather gloves never paid upkeep
khaergit boots never paid upkeep
strong bow never payed upkeep
bodkin arrows x 3 500gold (+/-) upkeep
courser never paid upkeep
pilgrim disguice 70gold (or so) upkeep
leather gloves never paid upkeep
khaergit boots never paid upkeep
strong bow never payed upkeep
bodkin arrows x 3 500gold (+/-) upkeep
courser never paid upkeep
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General Discussion / Re: Fix list
« on: January 06, 2011, 10:04:54 am »
I play Mount & Blade series close to 3 years now if not more
My regret is that i stopped playing M&B Warband and i only found out about cRPG a couple of weeks ago, because its a brilliant mod
This is what i think could be improved :
1.archery aim and damage are extremely reduced, i dont mind the fire rate nerf, its quite realistic and accurate, archers are normaly quite squishy but they need damage otherwise their useless, if you take the damage/aim away from archery they become cannon fodder. Please remember that archery in medieval warfare was very effective, Turks, Mongols, Brits used it with great prestige. But i agree that archery was a bit over the top and very unbalancing, maybe you can find a term in beetween wich is good for everyone.
2.bows compared to crossbows its like a kitchen knife and a bastard sword, many archers want to roll pure xbowman if archery remains unbalanced as it is. With that you will have less archers but more xbowman, if your idea of an archer was already awfull, now imagine them all using Xbows (lol), it would be terrible and completly ruin cRPG, you couldnt walk outside, you would be bolted to a tree in matter of seconds. Xbow was a random weapon at best, out of 10 players 2-3 used xbow, if you dont change archery , out of 10 players you will have 3-6 with a xbow !
3.upkeep in a long run may leave everyone butt naked on the field, so a reduction in cost could be altered, winnig players also damage their gear please dont make upkeep a penalty for the losing side, it unbalances the game alot as you can see from Siege Mode. Also upkeep is nerfing new players to cRPG, my advice would be that only after a certain lvl you would pay upkeep, this will serve as a tutorial and a introduction to cRPG, where the new player can shape and build his characther until (say) lvl 5-10 and from there fully integrate in Mod gameplay mechanic.
4.tincans/cav. will suffer the most from all the people in the patch , because their are very dependable on their gear and they wont be able to upkeep it
some ppl are reporting upkeeps over 20k and more wich is insane. I must confess i like tincans and cavs, without them i wont have anything to shoot at, so i want them there ready and able pls
5.cav. is almost impossible to defeat, mainly because archery nerf, player skill is obvioulsy taken in consideration but, horse is the best weapon money can buy atm in cRPG
*6.When you log into cRPG EU_1, the welcome post is now "YOU WILL BE BANNED IF YOU AFK " or smthng like that, it clearly shows that patch is unbalanced and ppl are trying to adapt the best they can, but they fail so they afk.
This is all i remember for now, ill post more if i come across some other stuff that may need tweaking so we can debate it
Ty
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My regret is that i stopped playing M&B Warband and i only found out about cRPG a couple of weeks ago, because its a brilliant mod
This is what i think could be improved :
1.archery aim and damage are extremely reduced, i dont mind the fire rate nerf, its quite realistic and accurate, archers are normaly quite squishy but they need damage otherwise their useless, if you take the damage/aim away from archery they become cannon fodder. Please remember that archery in medieval warfare was very effective, Turks, Mongols, Brits used it with great prestige. But i agree that archery was a bit over the top and very unbalancing, maybe you can find a term in beetween wich is good for everyone.
2.bows compared to crossbows its like a kitchen knife and a bastard sword, many archers want to roll pure xbowman if archery remains unbalanced as it is. With that you will have less archers but more xbowman, if your idea of an archer was already awfull, now imagine them all using Xbows (lol), it would be terrible and completly ruin cRPG, you couldnt walk outside, you would be bolted to a tree in matter of seconds. Xbow was a random weapon at best, out of 10 players 2-3 used xbow, if you dont change archery , out of 10 players you will have 3-6 with a xbow !
3.upkeep in a long run may leave everyone butt naked on the field, so a reduction in cost could be altered, winnig players also damage their gear please dont make upkeep a penalty for the losing side, it unbalances the game alot as you can see from Siege Mode. Also upkeep is nerfing new players to cRPG, my advice would be that only after a certain lvl you would pay upkeep, this will serve as a tutorial and a introduction to cRPG, where the new player can shape and build his characther until (say) lvl 5-10 and from there fully integrate in Mod gameplay mechanic.
4.tincans/cav. will suffer the most from all the people in the patch , because their are very dependable on their gear and they wont be able to upkeep it
some ppl are reporting upkeeps over 20k and more wich is insane. I must confess i like tincans and cavs, without them i wont have anything to shoot at, so i want them there ready and able pls
5.cav. is almost impossible to defeat, mainly because archery nerf, player skill is obvioulsy taken in consideration but, horse is the best weapon money can buy atm in cRPG
*6.When you log into cRPG EU_1, the welcome post is now "YOU WILL BE BANNED IF YOU AFK " or smthng like that, it clearly shows that patch is unbalanced and ppl are trying to adapt the best they can, but they fail so they afk.
This is all i remember for now, ill post more if i come across some other stuff that may need tweaking so we can debate it
Ty
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General Discussion / Re: Archery Help?
« on: January 05, 2011, 01:06:03 pm »No more robin hood archers, good riddance!
lol , Ninjas !
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General Discussion / Re: Feedback...
« on: January 05, 2011, 11:49:07 am »Which is the second group which got heavily nerfed - or will, as soon as their gold reserves are depleted.
theres only 2 groups, ranged n melee !
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General Discussion / Re: Feedback...
« on: January 05, 2011, 11:29:08 am »Jesus christ, another whine thread ? Come on. Who cares if you and a few other players, who always played ez-mode, leave ? Maybe actual teamplayers will be interested in playing cRPG, now. (ie. FICO, ...)
ez-mode ?! what could be more easy then mindless hack and slash tincan xbowman warmounted player, lol
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General Discussion / Re: Feedback...
« on: January 05, 2011, 11:23:07 am »I there a lot of poeple there might join now. This patch is fovoring the new players and the skilful ones. CRPG might gain more new players than it loses. Which is good... so if all you grinders dont want to play, fine by me
how can it favor new players !? As soon as they step into the battlefield they get rolled by a warhorse charging them, they gonna spend all their gold upkeeping their crappy tunics and wooden sticks and in 3-4 complete battles they are running naked around in the zone, they cant shoot a tree 3fts away with their bows, if they do, it will take them 30 or so arrows to deal basicly a scratch in damage to the opponent.
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General Discussion / Re: Arrow Damage Type
« on: January 05, 2011, 11:07:54 am »So you're saying it's normal and ok for it to require 8+ arrows to kill someone in heavy armor? 6 Arrows to kill a non armored horse, and 4 headshots to kill a plated one? 3 hits to kill someone naked? Crossbows can still 1 shot someone from across the map, and they still have piercing damage as well. Probably time to roll up a pure crossbowman ;)
i completly agree, i was in a rooftop and it took me 4-6 hits to down the other archer in the next building, close to 30 arrows from all the misses, and suddenly a tincan with a sniper xbow headshots me from across the map lol.
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General Discussion / Feedback...
« on: January 05, 2011, 10:52:17 am »
Is it just me or this patch is wrecking what it was a brilliant Mod ?
Pls leave your feedback on this new patch so we can have a proper aware of how much damage was done to cRPG, if any.
I read at least 2~3 posts in wich ppl are stating they are going to take a break from cRPG, if community is already loosing interest in a couple of hours, imagine in a week or 2.
So pls, again feedback your opinion on this new patch
1.My gameplay was archery based, i simple adore M&B because of how fluid archery is in this game, and to be honest i rather play native right now then cRPG
2.i lost close to 10 levels, i grinded 2 weeks to suddenly be back at lvl 20
Pls leave your feedback on this new patch so we can have a proper aware of how much damage was done to cRPG, if any.
I read at least 2~3 posts in wich ppl are stating they are going to take a break from cRPG, if community is already loosing interest in a couple of hours, imagine in a week or 2.
So pls, again feedback your opinion on this new patch
1.My gameplay was archery based, i simple adore M&B because of how fluid archery is in this game, and to be honest i rather play native right now then cRPG
2.i lost close to 10 levels, i grinded 2 weeks to suddenly be back at lvl 20
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General Discussion / Re: Archery Help?
« on: January 05, 2011, 10:03:35 am »I dont care about my damage but more about my accuracy. I'm still getting kills with my bow. I just want to be able to use my Warbow and be effective.
You´ll get that, when your lvl 40 at least, until then you better have alot of Athletics because your going to do some running from OP tincans and their war horses
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