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Title: Retirement Guide/Loom points
Post by: RandomDude on January 14, 2011, 05:39:51 am
Info should be correct now 10th May 2011

What is retiring?
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How do I retire?
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Why would I retire?
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XP Bonus In an easier to read form:
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Is there a max to the amount of XP I can gain per minute?
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How many times can you retire?  Also, what level can you or should you?
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NOTE: Make sure you're reading your characters level and not his age: My char's Age is 42[27]. His Age is 42 but his Level is 27. You need to be Level 31 to be able to get the retirement benefits. Retiring at Level 15-30 is basically a char reset with the advantage of keeping all your gold and items, but no new retirement benefits.

Heirlooming/"LOOM" POINTS
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Link to Banok's Heirloom Overview (for info on what heirlooming does for items)

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,497.0.html

Link to Lamix's Itemized Heirloom Thread

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,965.0.html

Thanks for all the questions/answers. Keep 'em coming.
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: EliteDragon on January 14, 2011, 06:14:00 am
Thx alot. Really cleared up a couple things I was unsure about.
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Espu on January 14, 2011, 10:12:11 am
Good, simple post. Added a text based on this to the wiki (http://wiki.c-rpg.net/index.php?title=Retirement).
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: 3ABP on January 14, 2011, 10:21:37 am
So - to retire - must I before to "prepare" (create) new character with different name? Like %char_name_%genNr?
Or already implemented system what keeping existing character name?
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Espu on January 14, 2011, 10:25:59 am
There's no need to create a new character. When you retire the current character is replaced with the new, retired one.
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: krampe on January 14, 2011, 11:48:02 am
You forgot that you have time for 7 days to change the name of your char not only add / remove Clantag or fix Typos and to change your gender after retirement.

(Don't think it is coded yet but chadz promised it)
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: RandomDude on January 14, 2011, 09:07:30 pm
You forgot that you have time for 7 days to change the name of your char not only add / remove Clantag or fix Typos and to change your gender after retirement.

(Don't think it is coded yet but chadz promised it)

as i understood the name change thing - it is/was for 7 days from when it was first posted and after this time, name changes will only be allowed for typo's/clan tag changes etc as it used to be - is this wrong?

i'll update the first post a bit
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Punisher on January 16, 2011, 12:34:03 am
chadz said on irc when retirement was implemented again that after you retire at level 31 you get 24h (not 7 days) for a free namechange, for people who like to add their generation to their name. However I don't know if it was implemented yet.
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: RandomDude on January 16, 2011, 01:36:15 am
ok thanx ^^
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: jspook on January 16, 2011, 02:05:10 am
When you retire for the first time, is your character then gen1?  or gen2?
just seems like an obvious question.
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Punisher on January 16, 2011, 11:24:06 am
When you retire for the first time, is your character then gen1?  or gen2?
just seems like an obvious question.

Gen2. All new characters start at gen1.
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: RandomDude on January 17, 2011, 11:02:51 pm
When you retire for the first time, is your character then gen1?  or gen2?
just seems like an obvious question.

updated thx for the q
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Arhodus on January 19, 2011, 12:09:26 pm
Quote
Retirement:
To retire, your requirements are:

    * Level 15 for Retirement without bonus
    * Level 31 for Retirement with bonus

lol nvm
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: RandomDude on January 20, 2011, 01:55:28 am
lol nvm

yeah it is pretty simple when you look at it like that

im putting it in so hopefully people dont have to read the verbose stuff if they dont want to
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Mr Potato on January 21, 2011, 01:36:50 pm
I m lvl 28 atm 1st generation and I m planing to retire at lvl 31... If I now get  1000k Exp average per minute do you know how much exp would I get as a 2nd generation? Thanks in advance :)
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: sami1337 on January 21, 2011, 05:12:28 pm
He pretty clearly explained how that works. But if you retired the first time you will get 1100 default.
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Mr Potato on January 21, 2011, 06:41:42 pm
He pretty clearly explained how that works. But if you retired the first time you will get 1100 default.

Thanks. I was just asking since he said that generation 5 players get 1400 exp default..... But oh well, thanks for answering my question  :)
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: RandomDude on January 22, 2011, 09:00:24 pm
updated the guide a little - hopefully its more user friendly
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Albain on January 24, 2011, 02:22:06 pm
I retired but it does not say I am generation 2 and I don't have the option to heirloom an item.  I was 40 when I retired ?
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Mylet on January 24, 2011, 07:26:06 pm
It should probably be mentioned that the number that matters for retirement is the 'level' in brackets behind your 'age' e.g.  "Age 45 [30]" = level 30, only retirement without bonus available.
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Albain on January 24, 2011, 07:39:21 pm
Ahhh crap.

Do you have to be able to use the item to heirloom it?
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: RandomDude on January 24, 2011, 11:04:56 pm
Ahhh crap.

Do you have to be able to use the item to heirloom it?

no u dont need to be able to use the item to heirloom it i believe

i'll update about age/level now
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Sine on January 24, 2011, 11:26:54 pm
Alright so what if I wanted to retire my character BUT wanted to choose a different name and gender? I last played before the new patch was integrated and now would like to keep my previously hierloomed weapons but with a new character. Could I still NameChange or retire to do it?
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: RandomDude on January 25, 2011, 01:01:40 am
Alright so what if I wanted to retire my character BUT wanted to choose a different name and gender? I last played before the new patch was integrated and now would like to keep my previously hierloomed weapons but with a new character. Could I still NameChange or retire to do it?

u can name change to anything currently without having to retire

i tried changing the sex of my char and i didnt have access to my inv or stats so im not sure if that is still bugged

changing the sex back helped me
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Lord_Nico on January 26, 2011, 10:45:59 am
Hi all sorry for my bad englisch bevore :)

I retired my char ath lev 26 2 days ago, after my retirement i kant open strategus map.

After i click :  Join Strategus BETA by clicking this link - only one character per game key
allowed, so chose wisely.

compare on next page this message :  no char was found with user: Lord_Nico, pass: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx deleting your cookies now

Found another hero of you - name: Lord_Nico
if you are desperate, you could delete him. [WARNING] by clicking this link and DELETING HIM, HIS ITEMS, EVERYTHING IN STRATEGUS: delete Lord_Nico

What is the problem ? If 1 is, or y need only too wait a weeck too rejoin stategus?

Thanks a lot




Sorry i found it !!!    http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,1379.0.html
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Safavid on January 26, 2011, 12:05:01 pm
How many times can you retire?  Also, what level can you or should you?
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Punisher on January 26, 2011, 07:54:46 pm
How many times can you retire?  Also, what level can you or should you?

As many times as you want. Level 31 to get gen+1 and 1 heirloom, level 15 only resets your character back to level 1, with no bonuses.
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: RandomDude on April 16, 2011, 05:33:17 pm
As many times as you want. Level 31 to get gen+1 and 1 heirloom, level 15 only resets your character back to level 1, with no bonuses.

updated 1st post and also bump for new players
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Blondin on April 16, 2011, 05:49:33 pm
Stick it!!
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Teeth on April 19, 2011, 06:30:05 pm
So I couldn't really find this anywhere, so I thought this would be a good place to ask. Is there maximum amount of xp per minute? Or can you become gen 100 and get 11000 xp per minute with x1?
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: justme on April 19, 2011, 06:33:09 pm
i heard that the cap is on 9500 on x5 per min, but atm im getting 14500 on x5
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Punisher on April 19, 2011, 08:23:15 pm
There is no cap.
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Ming on April 19, 2011, 10:48:15 pm
+1 :D
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: RandomDude on April 20, 2011, 12:00:17 pm
Yeah i heard 2 different stories about xp caps.

Some say its around 9500 xp per tick and some say there's no cap.

I don't know for sure though
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Beauchamp on April 20, 2011, 12:44:57 pm
if kesh is generation 80+ than i suppose there can't be any xp caps
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Blondin on April 20, 2011, 01:15:30 pm
Wow, gen 80...
Well the time line of cRPG is fail, if. You calculate that a char activity is 31 years (age 46) then you have 31x80=2480 years... 1250+2480=3730.
So the last gen char live in the year 3730 (Maya prediction of 2012 is failed!)
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Teeth on April 20, 2011, 07:13:36 pm
Gen 80! Imagine getting 45k xp with x5. What is that like 6 hours for a generation?
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Penitent on April 21, 2011, 09:33:39 pm
Good Guide:  Y U NO STICKIED?
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Keshian on April 21, 2011, 09:50:11 pm
FYI: I stopped retiring, so just levelling up with archer/2her.  Also, xp bonus is not capped but I would be very surprised if its not changed or removed by chadz in his upcoming patch, possibly made up for by higher base xp??
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Momo on April 27, 2011, 02:18:08 pm
I m lvl 28 atm 1st generation and I m planing to retire at lvl 31... If I now get  1000k Exp average per minute do you know how much exp would I get as a 2nd generation? Thanks in advance :)

You will get 1100XP per round on X1 at gen 2.
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Menelias on May 06, 2011, 12:37:16 am
I was wondering if I would keep all my skill points and stuff like that if I retire at lvl 15 and 31...

Can I retire to put my points differently ? Or have I to lvlup again to earn points ?

Thank you !
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: RandomDude on May 06, 2011, 12:43:29 am
I was wondering if I would keep all my skill points and stuff like that if I retire at lvl 15 and 31...

Can I retire to put my points differently ? Or have I to lvlup again to earn points ?

Thank you !

when you retire you go back to level 1 so you have to level up all over again
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Menelias on May 06, 2011, 12:44:56 am
Alright, thank you..!
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Punisher on May 07, 2011, 12:23:38 am
You should update it Random, xp bonus is now 3% (+30 per generation) and it is capped at 1450 xp.
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: RandomDude on May 10, 2011, 01:33:34 am
You should update it Random, xp bonus is now 3% (+30 per generation) and it is capped at 1450 xp.

ok thanks for the info - when u say +30 u mean 3% + 0.3% or something?
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Punisher on May 10, 2011, 10:36:05 pm
ok thanks for the info - when u say +30 u mean 3% + 0.3% or something?

It's +3%/generation.

At x1:

Gen1 - 1000 xp
Gen2 - 1030 xp
Gen3 - 1060 xp
Gen4 - 1090 xp
etc.

And the cap is at 1450 xp, reachable at gen 16.
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Swiftshot on May 10, 2011, 10:47:11 pm
It's +3%/generation.

At x1:

Gen1 - 1000 xp
Gen2 - 1030 xp
Gen3 - 1060 xp
Gen4 - 1090 xp
etc.

And the cap is at 1450 xp, reachable at gen 16.

Hmm odd, on my character page on c-rpg.net under the Retirement tab it says: Your character gains a generation. For each generation you get 100 XP more per tick.

Have they just not updated it yet?
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Punisher on May 10, 2011, 10:52:28 pm
Hmm odd, on my character page on c-rpg.net under the Retirement tab it says: Your character gains a generation. For each generation you get 100 XP more per tick.

Have they just not updated it yet?

Yes, that's the old bonus before the last patch.
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: RandomDude on May 11, 2011, 03:04:02 pm
It's +3%/generation.

At x1:

Gen1 - 1000 xp
Gen2 - 1030 xp
Gen3 - 1060 xp
Gen4 - 1090 xp
etc.

And the cap is at 1450 xp, reachable at gen 16.

thanx for the update/clarification ^^
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: wanteds on September 20, 2011, 10:06:23 pm
Sorry for necroing this, but it looked like the right place to post my question:
When retiring on lvl 31, you have the ability to heirloom an item. Now if I don't heirloom any item, do I get an heirloom point or such?
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: RandomDude on September 23, 2011, 03:08:18 pm
If you retire without selecting an item, you wont keep a "point".

If you want to sell an heirloom point, you must get an interested player to send an item to you which you then heirloom for them and sell back.

I guess i should include some info like this in the OP.

EDIT: Updated
Title: Re: Retirement Guide/Loom points
Post by: wanteds on October 11, 2011, 06:39:16 am
tnx for clearing that out for me dude :)
Title: Re: Retirement Guide/Loom points
Post by: RandomDude on October 11, 2011, 02:25:39 pm
tnx for clearing that out for me dude :)

always my pleasure ^^
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Teeth on October 11, 2011, 02:37:22 pm
If you retire without selecting an item, you wont keep a "point".

If you want to sell an heirloom point, you must get an interested player to send an item to you which you then heirloom for them and sell back.

I guess i should include some info like this in the OP.

EDIT: Updated
You do get a point AFAIK. You can just retire and not immediately heirloom stuff, I clearly remember heirlooming something without retiring.
Title: Re: Retirement Guide (as requested)
Post by: Vibe on October 11, 2011, 02:39:57 pm
You do get a point AFAIK. You can just retire and not immediately heirloom stuff, I clearly remember heirlooming something without retiring.

I don't think you get it. You probably remember the loom point from the reset.
Title: Re: Retirement Guide/Loom points
Post by: Ronin on October 30, 2011, 09:44:04 pm
Yes after reset it gives you a point. But you must choose an item to heirloom, in order to retire. Tested, just yesterday.
I think it should be changed to keeping an heirloom point while retiring. Because if you are jumping on a new build you might make a mistake, before finding your favourite weapon.
Title: Re: Retirement Guide/Loom points
Post by: RandomDude on October 31, 2011, 02:16:10 pm
Yes after reset it gives you a point. But you must choose an item to heirloom, in order to retire. Tested, just yesterday.
I think it should be changed to keeping an heirloom point while retiring. Because if you are jumping on a new build you might make a mistake, before finding your favourite weapon.

that would be nice