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Title: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Allers on January 13, 2011, 10:19:28 pm
I was in the ATS NA server today and I was asking about the new name changing system then Lorne muted me for no reason. I kept rejoining server asking why he muted me and he would give me no answer, just muting me again.

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Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Cain on January 13, 2011, 10:22:53 pm
Why is there a black line through some of that first image?
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Allers on January 13, 2011, 10:24:35 pm
Why is there a black line through some of that first image?

Just where I saved my screenshots
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Miley on January 13, 2011, 10:25:34 pm
It's the location of the screenshot.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Snatch on January 13, 2011, 10:29:50 pm
Lorne hates everything young and innocent
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Allers on January 13, 2011, 10:57:24 pm
Lorne hates everything young and innocent

D:
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Tornkik on January 13, 2011, 11:01:56 pm
 :rolleyes:

When are they going to take admin away from him?
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 13, 2011, 11:06:17 pm
Granted Lorne does indeed hate everyone, but:
If we kick someone, it's abuse
If we ban someone, it's abuse
If we mute someone, it's abuse

If we don't do anything, it's neglect and being a fail admin

Hmmmm, since there is no winning scenario, better to mute people for trolling or whatever than to ignore it.  BTW Lorne, how do you mute someone?  I'd use that feature alot.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Lorn on January 13, 2011, 11:07:15 pm
Granted Lorne does indeed hate everyone, but:
If we kick someone, it's abuse
If we ban someone, it's abuse
If we mute someone, it's abuse

If we don't do anything, it's neglect and being a fail admin

Hmmmm, since there is no winning scenario, better to mute people for trolling or whatever than to ignore it.  BTW Lorne, how do you mute someone?  I'd use that feature alot.

By using mute as an admin.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Tornkik on January 13, 2011, 11:07:49 pm
Granted Lorne does indeed hate everyone, but:
If we kick someone, it's abuse
If we ban someone, it's abuse
If we mute someone, it's abuse

If we don't do anything, it's neglect and being a fail admin

Hmmmm, since there is no winning scenario, better to mute people for trolling or whatever than to ignore it.  BTW Lorne, how do you mute someone?  I'd use that feature alot.

Really Gorath? :\

You know how many times Allers has reported for Lorne for Abuse?
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Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Allers on January 13, 2011, 11:13:19 pm
Really Gorath? :\

You know how many times Allers has reported for Lorne for Abuse?
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I really don't know why Lorne has admin if he treats it the wrong way
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: LordBerenger on January 13, 2011, 11:14:46 pm
Somehow we need to find a way to replace the admin role in the possible next MB2.

AI anyone?  No personal human feelings blended with the authority role =)

And most of all. NO ASS KISSING (Favors)
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Ashrik on January 13, 2011, 11:47:34 pm
If only there were some middle ground between needlessly muting/kicking/banning and not doing anything at all.

Oh yeah, having set rules applied equally and correctly to all  :wink: sucks that the loads of fair and correct admin actions are diminished by the times in which some mis-use powers for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: ManOfWar on January 13, 2011, 11:54:20 pm
Can we have a third party here say what the fuck happened?
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 14, 2011, 12:12:57 am
Can we have a third party here say what the fuck happened?

Yeah I'm still trying to figure out wtf is going on as well.  The screenshots don't show anything leading up to the mute, just that he was muted.

*Yay for being told we can mute people though, I can finally make Lady Decius stfu!*
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Artyem on January 14, 2011, 12:18:38 am
 What's happened here is that Allers seems to have said something about the new name changing system. Further unknown events unfolded and Lorn muted Allers. Many mutes later Allers posts about it.


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Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Devilize on January 14, 2011, 12:26:56 am
What's happened here is that Allers seems to have said something about the new name changing system. Further unknown events unfolded and Lorn muted Allers. Many mutes later Allers posts about it.


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Thank you Sean Connery once again your infinite wisdom enlightens all.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Tungsten on January 14, 2011, 02:42:30 am
I bet he was muted because he types 1 word per line.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Snatch on January 14, 2011, 02:53:20 am
IDK, on Fallen Ones server miley and allers aren't being bundle of stickss or anything. P much the only reason why people would be banned/muted. As of yet, no one has been a  shit head there. It is highly possible that allers and miley are the telling the truth this time!?
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Miley on January 14, 2011, 02:55:11 am
IDK, on Fallen Ones server miley and allers aren't being bundle of stickss or anything. P much the only reason why people would be banned/muted. As of yet, no one has been a  shit head there. It is highly possible that allers and miley are the telling the truth this time!?

Why do you affiliate me with Allers? I wasn't even there. I also haven't said anything on this post that could've even been thought of as true or false - -..
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Castor on January 14, 2011, 03:24:22 am
IDK, on Fallen Ones server miley and allers aren't being bundle of stickss or anything. P much the only reason why people would be banned/muted. As of yet, no one has been a  shit head there. It is highly possible that allers and miley are the telling the truth this time!?

In all fairness though GAGA, the fallen ones is a troll server, so nobody can really troll on a troll server  :wink:
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 14, 2011, 03:27:28 am
In all fairness though GAGA, the fallen ones is a troll server, so nobody can really troll on a troll server  :wink:

 :D  Truth.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Miley on January 14, 2011, 03:42:19 am
How can you not troll on a troll server? 0_0 Wouldn't it be full of trolls?
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Tornkik on January 14, 2011, 03:45:01 am
How can you not troll on a troll server? 0_0 Wouldn't it be full of trolls?

You can troll on a troll server, but you won't get any attention for it.  :)
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Miley on January 14, 2011, 03:48:18 am
You can troll on a troll server, but you won't get any attention for it.  :)

I notice trolls on this server, making this not a troll server :D
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Havoco on January 14, 2011, 03:52:59 am
Trolls being on a troll server... How can you suspect someone if being a troll while trolling the non trolls yet not trolling the trolls?



in the end..... TROLL
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: ShinySpoons on January 14, 2011, 03:53:22 am
Lorne will/has randomly kicked me on that server. What was I doing? Nothing. Not nothing as in being afk and watching people fight. As in, I, an archer (yes yes, reason enough) was shooting at people in a perfectly reachable place, i.e on the bridge in the bridge map, and was kicked.

Previous admin abuses by lorne involve kicking other RS members for similar reasons (existing).

Do I have screenshots and fraps? No, it can be annoying, but if he want's to be butthurt and hold a grudge, let em. Why he has admin at the same time however, I do not know.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Miley on January 14, 2011, 04:02:48 am
Trolls being on a troll server... How can you suspect someone if being a troll while trolling the former yet not trolling the trolls?



in the end..... TROLL

That made complete sense :]
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Havoco on January 14, 2011, 04:11:15 am
That's why I did it :)
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: ManOfWar on January 14, 2011, 04:18:32 am
I might need to play in lljk server and kick some ass, just to teach em a lesson


also If I go into a troll server, does that make me a troll?
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Ashrik on January 14, 2011, 04:32:22 am
I might need to play in lljk server and kick some ass, just to teach em a lesson


also If I go into a troll server, does that make me a troll?
It spreads through hugs and most physical contact, just like the bug. But I bet you'd have fun on The Fallen Ones server.
My favorite part is reflexive damage for tk'ers  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Miley on January 14, 2011, 04:42:59 am
I might need to play in lljk server and kick some ass, just to teach em a lesson


also If I go into a troll server, does that make me a troll?

LLJK has a cRPG server?
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Food on January 14, 2011, 04:52:52 am
Gorath and Lorne seem to think that being trolls = just being meanspirited assholes.
You give good trolls a bad name. I've never been mean to anyone on any server.

You may think you're a Duchamp but you're just toilets. (No one will understand that so SPOILER: trolling is an art)



Regarding the actual issue at hand, i was there also... i took screenshots too
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Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Loki on January 14, 2011, 04:58:19 am
Since we have a few choices in NA servers now we don't have to play on the ATS server; I for one won't be playing there anymore.  I just hope the NA_strategus server gets switched to different admins as well.  Tired of you guys restarting the strategus server when you start losing battles.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Allers on January 14, 2011, 05:09:00 am
Since we have a few choices in NA servers now we don't have to play on the ATS server; I for one won't be playing there anymore.  I just hope the NA_strategus server gets switched to different admins as well.  Tired of you guys restarting the strategus server when you start losing battles.

LOL they really do that?
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Miley on January 14, 2011, 05:10:05 am
Since we have a few choices in NA servers now we don't have to play on the ATS server; I for one won't be playing there anymore.  I just hope the NA_strategus server gets switched to different admins as well.  Tired of you guys restarting the strategus server when you start losing battles.

There's cRPG_The_Fallen_Ones. You can come there. :]
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 14, 2011, 05:12:11 am
LOL they really do that?

No, the strat server has only ever been restarted once in the history of it being up and that was my dumbass fault for typing in the wrong server number when i was restarting the other servers to get rid of lag issues.  But it's nice to know someone holds a grudge and still believes in conspiracy theories.

Gorath and Lorne seem to think that being trolls = just being meanspirited assholes.
You give good trolls a bad name. I've never been mean to anyone on any server.

I've never been mean to anyone on the servers either, I leave it all on the forums here.  And if you think my shit on the forums is being a "mean spirited (two words dude) asshole" then I'm pretty flattered honestly.  This shit isn't mean in the slightest.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Allers on January 14, 2011, 05:16:01 am
No, the strat server has only ever been restarted once in the history of it being up and that was my dumbass fault for typing in the wrong server number when i was restarting the other servers to get rid of lag issues.  But it's nice to know someone holds a grudge and still believes in conspiracy theories.

I've never been mean to anyone on the servers either, I leave it all on the forums here.  And if you think my shit on the forums is being a "mean spirited (two words dude) asshole" then I'm pretty flattered honestly.  This shit isn't mean in the slightest.

Gorath is nice man :D
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Miley on January 14, 2011, 05:24:50 am
No, the strat server has only ever been restarted once in the history of it being up and that was my dumbass fault for typing in the wrong server number when i was restarting the other servers to get rid of lag issues.  But it's nice to know someone holds a grudge and still believes in conspiracy theories.

I've never been mean to anyone on the servers either, I leave it all on the forums here.  And if you think my shit on the forums is being a "mean spirited (two words dude) asshole" then I'm pretty flattered honestly.  This shit isn't mean in the slightest.

What happened to your funny signature? - -''
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Lorn on January 14, 2011, 05:27:43 am
What happened to your funny signature? - -''

He got yelled at for offending fellow emos.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Miley on January 14, 2011, 05:32:32 am
He got yelled at for offending fellow emos.

Are you insinuating you? o.0
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Allers on January 14, 2011, 05:34:20 am
Are you insinuating you? o.0

Nice one
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Food on January 14, 2011, 05:35:06 am
I've never been mean to anyone on the servers either, I leave it all on the forums here.  And if you think my shit on the forums is being a "mean spirited (two words dude) asshole" then I'm pretty flattered honestly.  This shit isn't mean in the slightest.

You correct the grammar of a person who regularly intentionally spells things incorrectly but ignore the not terribly clever dadaist art insult?  :shock: touche, but i set you up for a home run imo
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 14, 2011, 05:36:07 am
What happened to your funny signature? - -''

The mods keep deleting my sigs :(
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Lorn on January 14, 2011, 05:37:45 am
Are you insinuating you? o.0

Gorath.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Allers on January 14, 2011, 05:39:18 am
Gorath.

Just because you said Gorath we now know Gorath is hiding something :P
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 14, 2011, 05:48:58 am
I'm lost in this conversation now....

WHUT?
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Bothersome_Aldryk on January 14, 2011, 05:51:27 am
A summary. Lorne uses his admin powers as a conversational tool and to harass people he doesn't like. He is also emo and has a grudge against RS. Gorat is supposedly mean to people, but only on the forums and is apparently emo. Loki is a conspiracy theorist. I think that's it.

Edited to mention Lorne's grudge. Toodles.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 14, 2011, 05:53:11 am
A summary. Lorne uses his admin powers as a conversational tool and to harass people he doesn't like. He is also emo. Gorat is supposedly mean to people, but only on the forums and is emo. Loki is a conspiracy theorist. I think that's it.

Ah.  Thanks.

Yup, I'm just so emo it hurts.
/wrists
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Havoco on January 14, 2011, 05:53:50 am
LOKI!!!!! Who shot JFK???
Jk.....all in good fun
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Miley on January 14, 2011, 05:54:05 am
Nice one

I wasn't trying to be mean to you. Was just asking if you were insinuating you. So no, it wasn't a "nice one."
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Miley on January 14, 2011, 05:55:30 am
The mods keep deleting my sigs :(

Are they "inappropriate?" Lol.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Food on January 14, 2011, 05:55:49 am
A summary. Lorne uses his admin powers as a conversational tool and to harass people he doesn't like. He is also emo and has a grudge against RS. Gorat is supposedly mean to people, but only on the forums and is apparently emo. Loki is a conspiracy theorist. I think that's it.

Edited to mention Lorne's grudge. Toodles.
Accurate and up to date. ty
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: ManOfWar on January 14, 2011, 05:59:49 am
Everyone knows gorath is indeed a grade A asshole. Are we all in agreement? :D
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 14, 2011, 06:03:53 am
Everyone knows gorath is indeed a grade A asshole. Are we all in agreement? :D

USDA certified.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: LLJK_Korea1 on January 14, 2011, 09:29:08 am
Stop whining
&
Get on Fallen_Ones, Scott is actually a neutral dude that has no interested in cRPG besides hosting and doing some server-side work, and he is awesome because he made that High-score board that tracks your kills w/ different weapons and deaths.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Snatch on January 14, 2011, 10:47:32 am
I don't get how ScotTFO server is lljk server or a troll server. I don't understand this stigma ATS has against Scot and why they (mostly gorath and some lljk discriminators) are spreading propaganda against him and his server. chadz wanted more servers and Scot was willing to host one. Scot then gave me admin, along with Breaden and one of Scot's old friends who happens to be an LLJK. If you guys argue that its all just trolling, then you are doing it wrong. Trolling is NOT being a dick and holding a grudge. Trolling is nonchalant antagonizing done so subtly, and when well done, will cause many of people to sperg out. If you troll terribly, its like a bad joke and no one laughs, instead they just think you're retarded.

On Fallen Ones server there isn't any "trolling" as far as i can tell. Most of the people are actually civil, chill, and chatty. There are honor duels, silly pirate fights against samuris, server wide doom ladders, and no griefing or tking. We have only  banned 1 player for consistent team killing and wounding. Scot has only one rule, which i have modified in his absence to "DON'T BE A my old friendGIT!" Which is fairly open ended, but has well worked so far. I believe this single rule invokes fear into players minds, thus causing them not to do my old friendgy things.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: LLJK_Korea1 on January 14, 2011, 10:51:18 am
I don't get how ScotTFO server is lljk server or a troll server. I don't understand this stigma ATS has against Scot and why they (mostly gorath and some lljk discriminators) are spreading propaganda against him and his server. chadz wanted more servers and Scot was willing to host one. Scot then gave me admin, along with Breaden and one of Scot's old friends who happens to be an LLJK. If you guys argue that its all just trolling, then you are doing it wrong. Trolling is NOT being a dick and holding a grudge. Trolling is nonchalant antagonizing done so subtly, and when well done, will cause many of people to sperg out. If you troll terribly, its like a bad joke and no one laughs, instead they just think you're retarded.

On Fallen Ones server there isn't any "trolling" as far as i can tell. Most of the people are actually civil, chill, and chatty. There are honor duels, silly pirate fights against samuris, server wide doom ladders, and no griefing or tking. We have only  banned 1 player for consistent team killing and wounding. Scot has only one rule, which i have modified in his absence to "DON'T BE A my old friendGIT!" Which is fairly open ended, but has well worked so far. I believe this single rule invokes fear into players minds, thus causing them not to do my old friendgy things.

my old friendGIT = int.adj. Person, who cannot socialize well with other people, also known as "Butthurt sperglord" or "Poopsocking teamkiller" Known my old friendGITs: Blazing_Balton
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Wench on January 14, 2011, 12:40:13 pm
Trolling is NOT being a dick and holding a grudge. Trolling is nonchalant antagonizing done so subtly, and when well done, will cause many of people to sperg out. If you troll terribly, its like a bad joke and no one laughs, instead they just think you're retarded.

Trolling is public performance art.

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stand up comedy, if u will
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: LLJK_DirtyCajun on January 14, 2011, 02:10:29 pm
Basically something ATS doesn't have a clue how to do.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Alopen on January 14, 2011, 02:12:24 pm
I like the Fallen Ones server. It does have alot of unpopular (from ATS server perspective) people yet it tends to be slightly less crowded. But I haven't seen that much retarded behavior. So with my crappy nowhere near Chicago ping the less people playing the better. Someone tell chadz we don't need more NA servers, but rather an NA server not in F'ing Chicago.  :shock: Not everyone in America likes "da bears" or thinks that Ditka could beat beat god in football (SNL).

On a side note I don't care for  the ATS maps anyways and more importantly that they switch maps every 3-4 rounds and half the time I have to D/L the map and miss the first round completely. I can understand why you do it, but I still don't like it.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Food on January 14, 2011, 02:54:41 pm
I play on the NA servers from the UAE and successfully couch and block people (admittedly my blocking needs serious work). Please do not complain about ping.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Vygar on January 14, 2011, 03:31:38 pm
Gorath is nice man :D

I dunno.  he tk'd me the other day and didn't apologize  :D
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Heroin on January 14, 2011, 04:20:31 pm
I kept rejoining server asking why he muted me and he would give me no answer, just muting me again.

Because Lorne hates you, likely because any time he takes action while you're being an asshat(and you've done a lot of that), you come post a thread on the forums trying to get public support to continue being an asshat, while simultaneously attempting to further tarnish Lorne's name.

Admittedly, both you and Miley have been fairly well-behaved since you've been unbanned, and I applaud you for that. In this instance that you're posting about, I thought muting you was unnecessary and so I unmuted you. When I unmuted you(about 30 seconds after you were muted), Lorne did not mute you any more.

If you think coming to the forums and complaining about Lorne will accomplish any of the following, you are wrong:

1. His admin is revoked.
2. He starts taking it easier on you.

If you want to accomplish either of the following, then you're on the right track:

1. Lorne starts watching you closely, looking for the most minor of infractions to get rid of you.
2. Lorne starts muting you for annoying him any time you type in chat.

The point here is, Lorne is an admin, and you're not going to change that. If you don't like being shat upon by admins, stop being a dick to admins.

Oh, and Lorne is a much more strict admin than myself, but he DOES follow/enforce the rules. The main difference between Lorne and myself is that I offer a polite suggestion to start following the rules before I take administrative action. Lorne does not see a need to do so, as the server rules are easy to find.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Alopen on January 14, 2011, 04:47:32 pm
I play on the NA servers from the UAE and successfully couch and block people (admittedly my blocking needs serious work). Please do not complain about ping.

And I used to play on the Eu servers all the time from the US. I'll complain about ping all I want. It does affect game play.  And blocking a good player is a complete crap shoot at best as you would know.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Kaelaen on January 14, 2011, 04:49:39 pm
Going to disagree.  I hop back and forth on the EU and NA servers and notice no difference in lag.  Turning on FRAPs has a far bigger effect than 200 ping O.o

[edit]
Okay so skilled players might get through my block easier on the EU server, but I wouldn't have hard proof of that because I tend to run away and shoot even more on those servers.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Dexxtaa on January 14, 2011, 04:54:38 pm
This is a silly conversation. All the ATS posts on this thread are defending their own. It's totally biased and frankly a discussion not worth having.

We all know that certain ATS members throw their weight around more than they really have to, and that's what everyone has to deal with. It's really not up for discussion. If you have 1000 people telling ATS about admin abuse, it's not going to change anything. They'll defend their own.

Whether or not that's a professional move, that's up in the air, really. But the fact remains that we're not going to see change in those servers. So just let it slide and move on with life. Besides, it's a game.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: BD_Guard_Bane on January 14, 2011, 05:25:21 pm
Trolling is public performance art.

stand up comedy, if u will

If it's an art, and if it's akin to stand up comedy, can you please in future make more effort to ensure that it's actually funny?

From their reputation I always assume that LLJK posts will be hilarious pieces of subtle trolling, but I'm always disappointed. If you're up for some constructive criticism: those pictures are never funny.

I look forward to better results :)
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Allers on January 14, 2011, 05:42:31 pm
Because Lorne hates you, likely because any time he takes action while you're being an asshat(and you've done a lot of that), you come post a thread on the forums trying to get public support to continue being an asshat, while simultaneously attempting to further tarnish Lorne's name.

Admittedly, both you and Miley have been fairly well-behaved since you've been unbanned, and I applaud you for that. In this instance that you're posting about, I thought muting you was unnecessary and so I unmuted you. When I unmuted you(about 30 seconds after you were muted), Lorne did not mute you any more.

If you think coming to the forums and complaining about Lorne will accomplish any of the following, you are wrong:

1. His admin is revoked.
2. He starts taking it easier on you.

If you want to accomplish either of the following, then you're on the right track:

1. Lorne starts watching you closely, looking for the most minor of infractions to get rid of you.
2. Lorne starts muting you for annoying him any time you type in chat.

The point here is, Lorne is an admin, and you're not going to change that. If you don't like being shat upon by admins, stop being a dick to admins.

Oh, and Lorne is a much more strict admin than myself, but he DOES follow/enforce the rules. The main difference between Lorne and myself is that I offer a polite suggestion to start following the rules before I take administrative action. Lorne does not see a need to do so, as the server rules are easy to find.

Thats ok, we ALL know what Lorne is. I don't have to prove anymore. Sooner or later he's going to make a big mistake. :P
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: SeQuel on January 14, 2011, 05:44:59 pm
Love how there just ignoring the fact that someone is admin abusing when screenshots were provided.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Nindur on January 14, 2011, 05:45:24 pm
Fight the power man! Fight the establishment! Fuck Ats!!111!!



Edit: Now that I think about it, I have something constructive to add to the discussion/troll. I was on the server when all that shit was going down and here is a magical fact, I was the first person to get muted by Lorne! Usually when I die I blame lag/OP Archery/OP throwing, this annoys Lorne and I know this, yet I continue to follow this trend. So I died and said ARCHERY OP THROWING OP and Lorne mutes me, which at the time really fucking pissed me off but in hindsight can be easily justified by citing the No Douchebaggery rule which is stated clearly before you join the game. If you do something with the intention of causing shit, that can easily be categorized under General Douchebaggery. So if your feeling butt hurt, take solace in the fact that Lorne does not discriminate by Clan Tag, race, religion, etc. Also the court reccommends disregarding the evidence presented because the entire conversation is not available for examination.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Food on January 14, 2011, 05:55:03 pm
Love how there just ignoring the fact that someone is admin abusing when screenshots were provided.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
AFAIK nobody with actual power has ever commented on these types of threads, which is dumb because it then it always turns into some fools making sweeping accusations against other clans (or against their own clans in some cases :twisted:) and FIGHT THE POWER type of stuff.   *rages against the machine IRL*    (the machine is authority fyi)
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Dexxtaa on January 14, 2011, 06:00:14 pm
Aaaaand we're still discussing this.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Miley on January 14, 2011, 06:08:27 pm
Fight the power man! Fight the establishment! Fuck Ats!!111!!



Edit: Now that I think about it, I have something constructive to add to the discussion/troll. I was on the server when all that shit was going down and here is a magical fact, I was the first person to get muted by Lorne! Usually when I die I blame lag/OP Archery/OP throwing, this annoys Lorne and I know this, yet I continue to follow this trend. So I died and said ARCHERY OP THROWING OP and Lorne mutes me, which at the time really fucking pissed me off but in hindsight can be easily justified by citing the No Douchebaggery rule which is stated clearly before you join the game. If you do something with the intention of causing shit, that can easily be categorized under General Douchebaggery. So if your feeling butt hurt, take solace in the fact that Lorne does not discriminate by Clan Tag, race, religion, etc. Also the court reccommends disregarding the evidence presented because the entire conversation is not available for examination.

Chat. Logs.

Anyways, Allers shouldn't put all this stuff out into the public forum. Ecko clearly said in one of his posts that if someone needed to report an admin abuse it was to go to him or Garguro.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Allers on January 14, 2011, 06:14:05 pm
Chat. Logs.

Anyways, Allers shouldn't put all this stuff out into the public forum. Ecko clearly said in one of his posts that if someone needed to report an admin abuse it was to go to him or Garguro.

I didn't see that poe-tht
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Ecko on January 14, 2011, 06:23:18 pm
Chat. Logs.

Anyways, Allers shouldn't put all this stuff out into the public forum. Ecko clearly said in one of his posts that if someone needed to report an admin abuse it was to go to him or Garguro.

I support this response.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Food on January 14, 2011, 06:24:16 pm
From their reputation I always assume that LLJK posts will be hilarious pieces of subtle trolling, but I'm always disappointed.
So you're saying that I should have left the spoiler part off of my Duchamp thing? I thought it was a pretty highbrow iceburn TBH
those pictures are never funny.
Definitely correct.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 14, 2011, 06:29:33 pm
In all honesty I don't see how it's a case of admin abuse.  For the most part I think alot of us admins either didn't know about, or forgot about the global mute option.  Believe me it'll get used quite a bit now that I know it exists.  You weren't kicked, or banned.  Just forced to stfu for a little bit.  Isn't that actually a much better response than kicking/banning people all the time?
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Allers on January 14, 2011, 06:41:04 pm
I support this response.

Well then. How do I delete the post? :o
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: LLJK_Korea1 on January 14, 2011, 07:29:17 pm
how about you guys forget your gay little rules and stop being guilty white men with some kind of cross to carry and have fun with this game once and while. And by fun I mean to not mute ppl.  :|
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 14, 2011, 08:05:06 pm
how about you guys forget your gay little rules and stop being guilty white men with some kind of cross to carry and have fun with this game once and while. And by fun I mean to not mute ppl.  :|

Spouting garbage, verbal vomit and text trash (the kind of stuff we'd mute you for) is only considered fun by moronic plebs with the maturity level of a drunken pre-teen with downs.  What's fun for us is listening to you bitch when you get put in time out.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: downer on January 14, 2011, 08:07:33 pm
Spouting garbage, verbal vomit and text trash (the kind of stuff we'd mute you for) is only considered fun by moronic plebs with the maturity level of a drunken pre-teen with downs.  What's fun for us is listening to you bitch when you get put in time out.

+1
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Dexxtaa on January 14, 2011, 08:09:10 pm
I think this thread needs a lock. Allers, I'm sure you can go to the ATS Vent and have a civil discussion with the admins and figure out what happened there.

Anyway, I'm with Miley on this one.

Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: BD_Guard_Bane on January 14, 2011, 08:25:08 pm
So you're saying that I should have left the spoiler part off of my Duchamp thing? I thought it was a pretty highbrow iceburn TBH

Highbrow? It doesn't even make sense... why would somebody make a comparison between themselves and a second rate surrealist? And TBH the toilet part - that was his best piece, which is telling.

Anyway, pretending that the post was clever and witty, you can't just retire off one slightly obscure put-down!

Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Snatch on January 14, 2011, 08:49:51 pm
Highbrow? It doesn't even make sense... why would somebody make a comparison between themselves and a second rate surrealist? And TBH the toilet part - that was his best piece, which is telling.

Anyway, pretending that the post was clever and witty, you can't just retire off one slightly obscure put-down!

What it really comes down too is effort. Why put effort in a lowly traffic thread filled with people that support his agenda. However, Downer's post is a masterstroke with that avatar gif.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: EyeBeat on January 14, 2011, 08:50:35 pm
Spouting garbage, verbal vomit and text trash (the kind of stuff we'd mute you for) is only considered fun by moronic plebs with the maturity level of a drunken pre-teen with downs.  What's fun for us is listening to you bitch when you get put in time out.

pot kettle black :(

There is a solution.  Play on TFO server.  Do not deal with the ATS admins!  Problem solved.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Food on January 14, 2011, 08:54:44 pm
that was his best piece, which is telling.
subjective.  most popular yes because of what it caused, but i chose it not because of its popularity, but because it was in itself a troll.
many layers to this onion.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 14, 2011, 08:56:46 pm
pot kettle black :(

Hardly qualifies in this case.  We don't go around the server all-caps'ing "bundle of sticks... I JUST POOPED MYSELF... POO-POO... (insert politician here) IS GAY... (Insert racial slur here) ".  If we did, you might have a PKB scenario, but the truth is that we aren't entertained by acting like a toddler eating paint chips.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Casimir on January 14, 2011, 09:04:17 pm
Were gunna need a whole lot of cheese for all this whine...
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Snatch on January 14, 2011, 09:07:07 pm
Were gunna need a whole lot of cheese for all this whine...

MASTERSTROKE
+11111111111111111111111
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Food on January 14, 2011, 09:11:11 pm
ahhh so thats how its done



snipe
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: ShinySpoons on January 14, 2011, 09:40:43 pm
This thread brings me enjoyment  :) We should put it in the spam sectionXD
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 14, 2011, 09:43:40 pm
This thread brings me enjoyment  :) We should put it in the spam sectionXD

I second that.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: LLJK_Korea1 on January 14, 2011, 09:44:21 pm
oh you guys so mature

e: excuse me chaps, I'm afraid I left my monocle somewhere in here
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 14, 2011, 10:13:54 pm
oh you guys so mature

e: excuse me chaps, I'm afraid I left my monocle somewhere in here

Indeed
/monocle
/top_hat
/gentlemanly_guffaw
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Dreakon_The_Destroyer on January 14, 2011, 11:05:13 pm
Alopen if you dont want anymore NA servers then how can you talk shit about a chicago server? If you dont like it (or the BEARS) then why dont you go and pay for your own server instead of bitching? Im in chicago and i appreciate MORE NA servers as well as everyone else in North America.

and DITKA is the man btw. dont be jealous you dont live in such a great city as Chicago
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Food on January 14, 2011, 11:06:30 pm
This thread has everything
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: EyeBeat on January 14, 2011, 11:25:53 pm
Alopen if you dont want anymore NA servers then how can you talk shit about a chicago server? If you dont like it (or the BEARS) then why dont you go and pay for your own server instead of bitching? Im in chicago and i appreciate MORE NA servers as well as everyone else in North America.

and DITKA is the man btw. dont be jealous you dont live in such a great city as Chicago

What this man said... also check out these other cool sites!

http://yellingaboutfootballpart1.ytmnd.com/
http://we-are-happy-and-angry-at-the-same-time.ytmnd.com/  ( my favorite... this is when the bears beat the shit out of the cowboys earlier this year.)
http://dougbuffonewillshovehisfootballdownyourthroat.ytmnd.com/
http://nine-sacks.ytmnd.com/
http://slowboattochina.ytmnd.com/
http://theslowboattochinapart2.ytmnd.com/

Chicago sports radio is too awesome.  Long live the Lovie Smiths.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Boss_Awesome on January 14, 2011, 11:39:30 pm
Alopen if you dont want anymore NA servers then how can you talk shit about a chicago server? If you dont like it (or the BEARS) then why dont you go and pay for your own server instead of bitching? Im in chicago and i appreciate MORE NA servers as well as everyone else in North America.

and DITKA is the man btw. dont be jealous you dont live in such a great city as Chicago

Chicago sucks.  Seahawks are gonna stomp your guys into the dirt...  IT'S STOMPIN TIME!  Why should i pay for a server if I don't like the Bears?  Anyway, you can't just put a crpg server up, you need to get permission from chadz which is the hard part. 
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: EyeBeat on January 14, 2011, 11:49:45 pm
I made an anime of Gorath posting on message boards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrI7QUJfkvI
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Dreakon_The_Destroyer on January 14, 2011, 11:57:03 pm
LOL chicago sucks? its way more fun AND exciting than you rainy ass emo city seattle.

i dont think so man. Seahawks beat the weakass saints who havent faced a good team all year. and the seahawks are a joke anyways.

Why should i pay for a server if I don't like the Bears? because if he doesnt like chicago or the bears (which has what to do with the server location in the first place?) then he can go beg chadz or stop being poor and buy a good computer or play a diff server
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: ShinySpoons on January 15, 2011, 01:01:13 am
I made an anime of Gorath posting on message boards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrI7QUJfkvI

LOL 'PUNCH!' AHH How am i supposed to get back at him!
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 15, 2011, 01:32:40 am
LOL 'PUNCH!' AHH How am i supposed to get back at him!

Indeed Spoony, indeed.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Bothersome_Aldryk on January 15, 2011, 04:47:28 am
Look, the answer here is simple and I'd think y'all would have learned it by now. You don't argue with an ATS admin. All that does is cause every single other member of ATS to flock in and tell you that you were clearly doing something wrong and the admin's grudge gets worse. What you do if it's serious is go and talk with one of the levelheaded admins. Promoting thread wars does nothing but make the situation worse. As long as the open ended rule of no douchebaggery exists, they have every right to ban you for existing. Arguing with them about it serves no purpose. It's there to make it so that they don't need a reason.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Thomas Dixon on January 15, 2011, 04:50:53 am
Look, the answer here is simple and I'd think y'all would have learned it by now. You don't argue with an ATS admin. All that does is cause every single other member of ATS to flock in and tell you that you were clearly doing something wrong and the admin's grudge gets worse. What you do if it's serious is go and talk with one of the levelheaded admins. Promoting thread wars does nothing but make the situation worse. As long as the open ended rule of no douchebaggery exists, they have every right to ban you for existing. Arguing with them about it serves no purpose. It's there to make it so that they don't need a reason.
+ 1
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 15, 2011, 05:17:50 am
What you do if it's serious is go and talk with one of the levelheaded admins. Promoting thread wars does nothing but make the situation worse. As long as the open ended rule of no douchebaggery exists, they have every right to ban you for existing. Arguing with them about it serves no purpose. It's there to make it so that they don't need a reason.

^
Indeed Aldryk, indeed.  PM's work wonders.

*Though the no douchebaggery rule isn't there so we can kick you without a reason at all, but as a blanket reason that covers a general "you're making the server shittier with your presence/actions".*
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Heroin on January 15, 2011, 05:46:00 am
Look, the answer here is simple and I'd think y'all would have learned it by now. You don't argue with an ATS admin. All that does is cause every single other member of ATS to flock in and tell you that you were clearly doing something wrong and the admin's grudge gets worse. What you do if it's serious is go and talk with one of the levelheaded admins. Promoting thread wars does nothing but make the situation worse. As long as the open ended rule of no douchebaggery exists, they have every right to ban you for existing. Arguing with them about it serves no purpose. It's there to make it so that they don't need a reason.

I think this is probably the most intelligent response I've seen from non-ATS members in one of these ATS bashing threads. Perhaps the message is finally getting across?
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: EyeBeat on January 15, 2011, 06:27:20 am
I think this is probably the most intelligent response I've seen from non-ATS members in one of these ATS bashing threads. Perhaps the message is finally getting across?

The thing is if this mod becomes more popular chadz will let more servers open up.  It isn't a secret that ATS enjoyed their supremacy over what goes and what doesn't in NA on this mod. 

Unfortunately this will most likely happen in Strategus.  Strategus itself seems like a great idea but since the leader of a clan is running it or has a hand in how it works it kind of makes playing it worthless.  Can you imagine in the MMO Darkfall if one of the clans ran the whole server?  Yeah that would not work at all.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 15, 2011, 06:50:06 am
The thing is if this mod becomes more popular chadz will let more servers open up.  It isn't a secret that ATS enjoyed their supremacy over what goes and what doesn't in NA on this mod. 

Unfortunately this will most likely happen in Strategus.  Strategus itself seems like a great idea but since the leader of a clan is running it or has a hand in how it works it kind of makes playing it worthless.  Can you imagine in the MMO Darkfall if one of the clans ran the whole server?  Yeah that would not work at all.

The only thing you can say about us running the server is that you're not completely free to be a moronic asshat spouting garbage, rampantly TK'ing, drawing out maps, abusing exploits and other assorted bullshit.  Honestly, if DF had been run where people couldn't have been piles of walking garbage all the time then it may have been a little better, but still a shitty game as the game itself was crap.  Great concept, terribad combat and grind.

However, you're entitled to your opinion of us just as we're entitled to our opinions about you, so carry on and meh.

*In all honesty the way it is now is great.  If people want to be trolls, asshats, douche's, fuck around doing stupid shit, spout racial slurs and general retard-speak they can hang out on your lljk server, and we can be spared the bullshit.*
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: ScotTFO on January 15, 2011, 06:59:30 am
Lljk has a server now too?
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Miley on January 15, 2011, 07:03:03 am
No, Scot. They call your server the "LLJK Server."
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Artyem on January 15, 2011, 07:07:24 am
I think this thread needs a lock. Allers, I'm sure you can go to the ATS Vent and have a civil discussion with the admins and figure out what happened there.

Anyway, I'm with Miley on this one.

BAHAHAHAHA! A civil discussion with ATS admins? Impossible! I will admit that there is atleast one good admin in the entire ATS community (Gorath), and even then you still get flocks of people who wish to brown nose and kiss his toe knuckles because of his status of power. Any attempt to talk in a chat room like that would lead to an inevitable mass of "you deserved it because you're 'insert person or thing'" between all of the members of ATS and any other people. We have no proof that Allers truly said anything wrong, all we can tell by the pictures is that Allers was muted multiple times for no visible reason.

CHAT LOGS!
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 15, 2011, 07:19:53 am
and kiss his toe knuckles because of his status of power.

I thought it was because my toe knuckles were cute  :cry:

*@Scott:  You say it's not the goon server, and yet every time I go there on some random alt to get a chuckle that's all it seems like it is.  There's nothing but the trolls that were banned off all the other servers flooding chat with bundle of sticks, N***** (and other racial slurs), caps lock rage spam, poll spam, dudes hitting teammates at spawn.  Maybe it's just because you're not around, who knows.  But the fact remains that for a good laugh one only has to be there for a few rounds to see a collective pile of trolling douchebaggery played out rapid fire.  Maybe check your chat logs, look at the poll spams and other assorted asshattery with the players that have made your server their home and perhaps you will understand why it's the "Goon server".

Again though, it works out fairly well because thanks to your server, we can keep the trash off of the other servers.*
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: ScotTFO on January 15, 2011, 07:30:55 am
I do not censor chat on my server unless people just go far overboard with harassing someone or is just generally being annoying.

Also I assure you that the goons aren't the only ones who talk like that on the Internet. Also I am sure they are equally as happy I am here because they can play on a server without worrying about bein kicked because an admin is having a bad day.

Also by your logic if someone on a public forum said I am a goon and that makes me one, if you read further in that thread you posted you would see that they called you one too, so does that make them both goon servers?
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Miley on January 15, 2011, 07:35:08 am
I thought it was because my toe knuckles were cute  :cry:

*@Scott:  You say it's not the goon server, and yet every time I go there on some random alt to get a chuckle that's all it seems like it is.  There's nothing but the trolls that were banned off all the other servers flooding chat with bundle of sticks, N***** (and other racial slurs), caps lock rage spam, poll spam, dudes hitting teammates at spawn.  Maybe it's just because you're not around, who knows.  But the fact remains that for a good laugh one only has to be there for a few rounds to see a collective pile of trolling douchebaggery played out rapid fire.  Maybe check your chat logs, look at the poll spams and other assorted asshattery with the players that have made your server their home and perhaps you will understand why it's the "Goon server".

Again though, it works out fairly well because thanks to your server, we can keep the trash off of the other servers.*

There was a lot of poll spamming (which you got kicked by, I think), but it was fixed :3
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: EyeBeat on January 15, 2011, 08:18:24 am
I thought it was because my toe knuckles were cute  :cry:

*@Scott:  You say it's not the goon server, and yet every time I go there on some random alt to get a chuckle that's all it seems like it is.  There's nothing but the trolls that were banned off all the other servers flooding chat with bundle of sticks, N***** (and other racial slurs), caps lock rage spam, poll spam, dudes hitting teammates at spawn.  Maybe it's just because you're not around, who knows.  But the fact remains that for a good laugh one only has to be there for a few rounds to see a collective pile of trolling douchebaggery played out rapid fire.  Maybe check your chat logs, look at the poll spams and other assorted asshattery with the players that have made your server their home and perhaps you will understand why it's the "Goon server".

Yeah the last 8 times I was there I have not heard a racial slur.  I understand you are upset that people have a place to play at and you can not control their behavior but I mean.  Comon man.  Can you chill?
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 15, 2011, 08:26:08 am
@Scot
(click to show/hide)

As for Artyem: 
(click to show/hide)

Eyebeat: 
(click to show/hide)

Damn I like making walls of texts pretty.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: ScotTFO on January 15, 2011, 08:52:10 am
You do know that the first admin assigned to tfo was an ats right? Gaga got admin quick because he asked and from knowing him from the na server and that he was on a lot I decided it was best for my server.

Also don't think people like from the chat log you posted will last long on my server either. While they might get away with it when I am not around soon I will have more admins and the server will be run in exactly the way I intend for it to be.  If that means removing all admins and starting over I will.

I have been running gaming servers since quake 1 and am more than capable of dealing with internet trolls.

Speaking of trolls, wouldn't it be a pretty safe assumption to say that them dropping hints of me being a goon in a thread they know you are reading, was in fact a successful troll? It's funny that I am being called the goon here when you had to point out that thread to me in the first place.  Don't you think if I was one of them I would've know about it before you? Either way if I am or not doesn't really matter in the end as chadz either doesn't care or doesn't buy it.

So if you really have issue with me and my laggy piece of crap server you might get more accomplished with taking it up with chadz himself because you being a keyboard commando on the forums and talking crap about me or my servers without any provocation does nothing by make you look like an idiot and shows how upset you were over losing sole power of the na servers.  Which by the way was made quite obvious to me by all of the messages to me within 5 minutes of my server being up, regarding how lljk was going to act towards you now that there was another server to play on. Which I thought was quite fun y considering not only were you trolling the forums more than any of them but were also attacking me and my server without me ever saying a word to you.  Guess we all see who the trolls are in this community.

Also the peoe on my server are not all you banned or would like to unless you advocate banning your own clan as well.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 15, 2011, 09:17:46 am
by all of the messages to me

Haven't sent a message to you once, and if you're going to lie about that then I can pretty much safely assume everything else you say is a lie as well.  Which is a shame because I really didn't have anything against you personally, unfortunately you're just caught up in me shit talking the Goons.  None of this is meant to go to chadz, or get your server shut down or anything man.  That's just a bit of paranoia on your end.    :D  Yup, I'm just a trolling ass, but this is pretty common knowledge.

*For real, post screenshots of these messages I supposedly sent to you.  Better brush up on those photoshop skills dude.  ;)*
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Hauptmann on January 15, 2011, 09:22:46 am
He never mentioned that you sent them. I think he was just saying that he was sent messages by the dudes running the ATS server.

Also, funny enough, I actually conduct myself BETTER on Scot's server. I still say bundle of sticks and shit, but it's wayyyy less over the top.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Gorath on January 15, 2011, 09:30:02 am
He never mentioned that you sent them. I think he was just saying that he was sent messages by the dudes running the ATS server.
Well if that's the case, I'm still interested in seeing them.

Also, funny enough, I actually conduct myself BETTER on Scot's server. I still say bundle of sticks and shit, but it's wayyyy less over the top.
Doubt it.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Hauptmann on January 15, 2011, 09:31:05 am
Me too, bro.
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: ScotTFO on January 15, 2011, 09:31:57 am
Haven't sent a message to you once, and if you're going to lie about that then I can pretty much safely assume everything else you say is a lie as well.  Which is a shame because I really didn't have anything against you personally, unfortunately you're just caught up in me shit talking the Goons.  None of this is meant to go to chadz, or get your server shut down or anything man.  That's just a bit of paranoia on your end.    :D  Yup, I'm just a trolling ass, but this is pretty common knowledge.

*For real, post screenshots of these messages I supposedly sent to you.  Better brush up on those photoshop skills dude.  ;)*
You are so quick to make assumptions aren't you?  You should likely chalk that up to one skill you should rely on less as I never said it was you who messages me about it.  Also it's slightly hard not to get caught up in it when my server is mentioned in your posts so often and talked down upon.  I thought it especially humorous you talking suit when I put up a temp server for peoe to use while yours was down and made multiple disclaimer posts to the fact it was not running right but only up until yours was live.  You just can't help yourself can you? I've seen this countless times. People get addicted to the power and attention given to them from hosting servers and don't like people freezing on their territory. I'm sure you're a big enough boy that you will muster the courage to get over it all
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: ScotTFO on January 15, 2011, 09:33:08 am
Also if you are interested just ask you own clan, I'm sure they will tell you.  They were just looking out for your well being.......
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: Artyem on January 15, 2011, 09:33:33 am
I'm not surprised by the answer that was given:

"Oh, I wouldn't have muted Allers personally but because Lorne is ATS I'm going to let him do it multiple times even though I've just said it was admin abuse"
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Scot's server is much better in my opinion, people speak their mind, they don't get kicked, they don't get kicked because "he has a history of this" or because an admin had a bad day.

If you insist on the server being full of goons, I guess this is the case:

Goons > ATS cRPG NA
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: EyeBeat on January 15, 2011, 09:35:25 am
Scot please stop pwning gorath on these forums.  All this stuff is already understood about him.  WE ARE ALL FRIENDS HERE.

But yeah he did kind of shit in your server thread and I would be pissed off about that too.  Keep up the good work scot you are the best!
Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: LLJK_Korea1 on January 15, 2011, 09:41:17 am
You are so quick to make assumptions aren't you?  You should likely chalk that up to one skill you should rely on less as I never said it was you who messages me about it.  Also it's slightly hard not to get caught up in it when my server is mentioned in your posts so often and talked down upon.  I thought it especially humorous you talking suit when I put up a temp server for peoe to use while yours was down and made multiple disclaimer posts to the fact it was not running right but only up until yours was live.  You just can't help yourself can you? I've seen this countless times. People get addicted to the power and attention given to them from hosting servers and don't like people freezing on their territory. I'm sure you're a big enough boy that you will muster the courage to get over it all

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Title: Re: Lorne_ATS... Admin Abuse?
Post by: EyeBeat on January 15, 2011, 09:48:35 am
Scot's server is much better in my opinion, people speak their mind, they don't get kicked, they don't get kicked because "he has a history of this" or because an admin had a bad day.

It is really not a question about whose server is better man.  The more servers the better.  I want this mod to grow.  Gorath thinks he is a troll.  But good trolls do not type out 7 paragraph replies using a thesaurus.