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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Andropov on June 15, 2011, 11:00:19 pm

Title: Self sustainable equipment value?
Post by: Andropov on June 15, 2011, 11:00:19 pm
About how expensive equipment value to use to maintain equal income?
Title: Re: Self sustainable equipment value?
Post by: okiN on June 15, 2011, 11:15:52 pm
Not sure where the break-even point is, and I guess it will vary slightly from person to person. I know I can still make a pretty good profit at around 40k, though.
Title: Re: Self sustainable equipment value?
Post by: EponiCo on June 15, 2011, 11:27:33 pm
For first 20 or 24 levels use nearly nothing (gambeson + longsword f.e.) until you have made 50k. Do not spend those, they are your buffer. Then use 35-50k and see how much you gain/loose over many rounds.
Title: Re: Self sustainable equipment value?
Post by: Diomedes on June 15, 2011, 11:40:47 pm
40-50k is where I break even if I remember correctly.  For the past while I've been using a 14k build though so it could've been tweaked since I straddled the line.
Title: Re: Self sustainable equipment value?
Post by: Penitent on June 15, 2011, 11:56:39 pm
I break even at like 30k.  I don't know how ppl do otherwise.
Title: Re: Self sustainable equipment value?
Post by: okiN on June 16, 2011, 12:04:01 am
Quote from: Garison on June 15, 2011, 11:56:39 pm
I break even at like 30k.  I don't know how ppl do otherwise.

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Title: Re: Self sustainable equipment value?
Post by: Tristan on June 16, 2011, 12:04:39 am
At around 40k for me as well.
Title: Re: Self sustainable equipment value?
Post by: ThePoopy on June 16, 2011, 12:12:05 am
Quote from: chadz on January 06, 2011, 06:08:01 pm
A new version was released, changelog:

break chance: from 3% to 4%
repair cost: from 20% to 5%

dont know if it has been changed after that but if this is

x1 =25000
x2 =50000
x3 =75000
x4 =100000
x5 =125000

Title: Re: Self sustainable equipment value?
Post by: Panoply on June 16, 2011, 12:28:17 am
I would direct you to Walt's great thread: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2394.msg40317.html

Basically, use this formula:
average equipment cost = 50 gold * (average multiplier)/0.0027

Input your average multiplier to find out roughly how much your equipment can cost and still break even. For a player who wins at a constant 50% probability each round, your average multiplier will converge upon ~1.9375, giving a break even equipment cost of ~35860 gold. If you win more than 50% you can maintain higher costing equipment, and conversely, if you win less than 50% you will break even at a lower equipment cost.
Title: Re: Self sustainable equipment value?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 16, 2011, 12:29:14 am
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Title: Re: Self sustainable equipment value?
Post by: Topsnus on June 16, 2011, 12:43:13 am
Break chance is 4% and repair cost is 5%. That means every 25 ticks you break everything, which costs five percent of your equipment value.

In 25 ticks you make 1250 gold. multiply that by 20 to get value of armor and you get 25,000 gold.

So 25,000 gold per multiplier is the amount to sustain your equipment. You will have to decide what your average multiplier is. It is probably around x2. So about 50,000 will break even.
Title: Re: Self sustainable equipment value?
Post by: Belhade on June 16, 2011, 04:43:03 am
Yeah, i find that I'm still profitable up to about 40k, which means I'm wearing my Plate or Corrazina armor.
Title: Re: Self sustainable equipment value?
Post by: Casimir on June 16, 2011, 04:58:41 am
Once i hit 50k (or lvl 30) i don the plate armour to 31. Tend to still have 30k when i retire.
Title: Re: Self sustainable equipment value?
Post by: WaltF4 on June 16, 2011, 05:02:23 am
Quote from: Panoply on June 16, 2011, 12:28:17 am
I would direct you to Walt's great thread: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2394.msg40317.html

I have completed a new study on this topic (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,8400.0.html). Most importantly, the rate of item breakage is now the advertised 4% per clock tick so you can afforded 25000 gold times your average multiplier. The majority of players will have an average multiplier of about 2x and will have a stable amount of gold if they wear about 50000 gold worth of equipment.