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Title: apex legends
Post by: Xant on February 06, 2019, 12:08:29 pm
best battle royale and its free bitches
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Vibe on February 06, 2019, 03:31:45 pm
dropped out of nowhere, pleasant surprise, definitely the best BR right now
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Xant on February 06, 2019, 06:24:35 pm
It's like a better Blackout. Glad I didn't pay sixty dollars for that shit now.

I just wish it wasn't squads only. Or that it at least let you do solo squads. Carrying two people and doing all the work just to have them steal the good loot is infuriating.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Gravoth_iii on February 06, 2019, 07:03:06 pm
Playing team based games LUL
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Xant on February 06, 2019, 07:11:25 pm
Just pretend you don't have a team
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Ikarus on February 06, 2019, 08:16:55 pm
I still rather wanted a titanfall 3 instead, I only uninstalled tf2 because I burned too much lifetime into it and I got other things to do
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Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Xant on February 06, 2019, 09:35:59 pm
AL is great news for TF3. It has 3 million+ unique players already, it's going to give Respawn mad credit with EA on their future projects.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Vibe on February 06, 2019, 11:58:55 pm
Yeah this can be good for Titanfall overall. This was honestly masterfully done by EA/Respawn, they didn't give the people a chance to whine about "oh no not another f2p BR with lootboxes" by announcing it early. Avoided a PR disaster by simply dropping a finished, fun game out of nowhere and now people actually get to play first and then complain.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Xant on February 07, 2019, 03:35:54 am
Yeah, pretty much everyone would've laughed at the concept. "Titanfall BR but super dumbed down." But now they get to try it for free and see how polished it is, and how many neat little QoL additions it has that just make it fun to play.

I'd just like bigger magazine sizes all around. It's pretty silly that all the full auto guns have like 17 bullets by default, and you can't kill shielded people even if you hit every shot.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Vibe on February 07, 2019, 09:01:51 am
The QoL additions to this game are amazing. They have some galaxy brains working at Respawn who thought of all this. Shit you didn't even think you were missing in other BRs.

I'd just like bigger magazine sizes all around. It's pretty silly that all the full auto guns have like 17 bullets by default, and you can't kill shielded people even if you hit every shot.

Yeah agreed here. In the meantime give Devotion a try, it has a bit of windup time but that gun shreds. The only problem is it's energy ammo which is hard to come by.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Leshma on February 07, 2019, 11:45:12 pm
utter crap

i have a solution for overpopulation problem

delete everyone who plays battle royale
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Vibe on February 08, 2019, 12:07:11 am
this thing is popular therefore i must be angry at it, reee
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Xant on February 08, 2019, 12:08:47 am
The QoL additions to this game are amazing. They have some galaxy brains working at Respawn who thought of all this. Shit you didn't even think you were missing in other BRs.

Yeah agreed here. In the meantime give Devotion a try, it has a bit of windup time but that gun shreds. The only problem is it's energy ammo which is hard to come by.
Every time I've tried Devotion I've been disappointed. The windup, even with the gold attachment, seems to really limit what you can do. I've liked Spitfire more, with extended mag 60 bullets you can actually kill a couple of guys before reloading. Alternatively I've been running two R301s/R99s or one of both. Or one of those and Wingman.

Also, shotguns seem total trash. Really inconsistent and only do good damage if you get lucky/are touching them.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Vibe on February 08, 2019, 11:11:56 am
Every time I've tried Devotion I've been disappointed. The windup, even with the gold attachment, seems to really limit what you can do. I've liked Spitfire more, with extended mag 60 bullets you can actually kill a couple of guys before reloading. Alternatively I've been running two R301s/R99s or one of both. Or one of those and Wingman.

Also, shotguns seem total trash. Really inconsistent and only do good damage if you get lucky/are touching them.

R301/R99 are the best, I kinda like the Prowler as well, granted you get the full auto and extended mag attachments, which makes it into a good gun. Shotguns seem inconsistent, sometimes you do chip damage other times they one shot at medium range even.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Xant on February 09, 2019, 04:28:16 pm
I think a fully kitted Spitfire is probably my favorite. 2x headshot damage unlike SMGs, pretty much zero recoil, and most importantly, 60 round mag, letting you kill 2 or 3 without needing to reload.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Nickleback on February 09, 2019, 04:33:04 pm
utter crap

i have a solution for overpopulation problem

delete everyone who plays battle royale
leshma i compulsory like ur every post xd.
I didn't liked the game but i think it will be the new thing for pubg,fortnite playing kids.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Jacaroma on February 10, 2019, 03:47:35 am
Can someone explain to me what's so good about Battle Royale game modes? I personally think they're utter shit and don't understand why it's so popular.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Gravoth_iii on February 10, 2019, 04:49:42 am
Can someone explain to me what's so good about Battle Royale game modes? I personally think they're utter shit and don't understand why it's so popular.

The investment into a single game makes each round more impactful and exciting, especially if you arent hardcore but more casual type then its very intense. More effort in surviving rather than just bluntly trying to get the most kills etc. Looting makes for uncertain outcomes, which adds a king of the day element that can be enjoyable.

I dont play them and have little to no interest in them, but i can definitely see why that sort of gameplay became such a huge success.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: agweber on February 10, 2019, 05:51:05 pm
Can someone explain to me what's so good about Battle Royale game modes? I personally think they're utter shit and don't understand why it's so popular.

I played a few rounds when they were first a thing. They definitely got my blood pumping and adrenaline going from the anticipation and worry, for reasons that Gravoth mentioned. Too much so for me to be honest, so I haven't really played them since.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Xant on February 10, 2019, 10:20:51 pm
People like looting in general and finding good stuff. It's like a mini-MMO, building your character every game. And the downtime and looting makes the firefights more meaningful. You really don't want to die, and nor do your enemies. And the kills feel a lot better because you know the enemies really didn't want to die, and because you survived. And then you get more loot from those guys.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Lennu on February 11, 2019, 01:04:44 am
It's a good game
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Vibe on February 11, 2019, 08:56:36 am
People like looting in general and finding good stuff. It's like a mini-MMO, building your character every game. And the downtime and looting makes the firefights more meaningful. You really don't want to die, and nor do your enemies. And the kills feel a lot better because you know the enemies really didn't want to die, and because you survived. And then you get more loot from those guys.

Like DayZ, just all in a single <30 minute match and not boring of course.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Gravoth_iii on February 16, 2019, 10:23:46 pm
Tetris 99 is the only battle royale i play
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Xant on February 17, 2019, 03:44:00 am
Haha epic joke champ :D
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Vibe on February 17, 2019, 11:37:27 am
So after playing quite some last few days, this is how I would personally rank the guns:

S tier - Spitfire, Peacekeeper, Wingman
A tier - R-301, R-99
B tier - Hemlok, Longbow
C tier - G7 Scout, Devotion, Prowler, Triple Take, EVA-8 Auto
D tier - RE-45, Alternator, Flatline
You're better off with your fists tier - Mozambique, P2020

Didn't rank Mastiff and Kraber, I quite like both but due to low ammo I don't pick them up often, especially Kraber.

Spitfire is an absoute beast, imo the best in game due to high TTK in this game. Peacekeeper also when it's consistent. Wingman is insane if you can hit your shots.
R-301 and R-99 are great options for long and close range respectively.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Xant on February 17, 2019, 12:27:05 pm
I wouldn't rank Peacekeeper in S tier simply because of its inconsistency. When it works it's great, but it also gets you killed in situations where you wouldn't have died if you'd just reloaded/used another gun. Also pretty sure EVA does more damage faster if you hit your shots. Haven't tried it much though, but could be better to use it since it's more forgiving if you don't hit perfectly and also more damage if you hit perfectly.

R301 is probably my favorite gun right now, also has the highest practical skill ceiling with the high damage (and DPS) headshots with very little recoil. R99 has too much recoil for medium range and it actually shoots too fast for its own good. Unless you're shooting at a stationary target, or someone who obligingly only strafes in one direction, you're going to miss a ton of bullets before you can track in the new direction. It's still great, of course, just don't like it as much as 301.

Wingman is OP but the way they implemented recoil sometimes makes it weird to use at times. Like there's a lot of visual recoil, but there's no real recoil, and the gun's visual recoil just blocks your view and makes you think you're getting more recoil than you are.

Spitfire's up there with 301 for me, only a bit behind because the rate of fire's pretty slow, but often in realistic conditions the DPS is better than anything else because you don't have to reload. Also high damage headshots.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Vibe on February 17, 2019, 01:43:13 pm
I wouldn't rank Peacekeeper in S tier simply because of its inconsistency. When it works it's great, but it also gets you killed in situations where you wouldn't have died if you'd just reloaded/used another gun. Also pretty sure EVA does more damage faster if you hit your shots. Haven't tried it much though, but could be better to use it since it's more forgiving if you don't hit perfectly and also more damage if you hit perfectly.

R301 is probably my favorite gun right now, also has the highest practical skill ceiling with the high damage (and DPS) headshots with very little recoil. R99 has too much recoil for medium range and it actually shoots too fast for its own good. Unless you're shooting at a stationary target, or someone who obligingly only strafes in one direction, you're going to miss a ton of bullets before you can track in the new direction. It's still great, of course, just don't like it as much as 301.

Wingman is OP but the way they implemented recoil sometimes makes it weird to use at times. Like there's a lot of visual recoil, but there's no real recoil, and the gun's visual recoil just blocks your view and makes you think you're getting more recoil than you are.

Spitfire's up there with 301 for me, only a bit behind because the rate of fire's pretty slow, but often in realistic conditions the DPS is better than anything else because you don't have to reload. Also high damage headshots.

R-301 is awesome, with attachments it has basically zero recoil and you can spray people in their head even at long range. I only placed Spitfire higher because of the large mag size, basically.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Xant on February 17, 2019, 02:12:47 pm
Team game Pepega

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Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Xant on February 17, 2019, 07:47:21 pm
Some (mostly solo) squad takedowns from today:

https://youtu.be/SKtMBoSPi5k


Gave the Longbow my first serious try and honestly I liked it a lot as a secondary, especially when fully kitted. Being able to take out 1 guy and maybe damage the others before pushing them can be a massive help.

Also only really noticed from the recording how much recoil R-99 has beyond 10 meters, it's pretty insane. R-301 on the other hand is great everywhere.

Not too sure about EVA... I was fucking up the timing between the shots (really doesn't help that it changes with the barrel attachment) too much to really decide yet, but didn't feel that good.

On a somewhat unrelated note, I really hope they add more 1x sights in March. The only one with a decent sight picture is the HCOG 1x Classic (or whatever). The rest are trash for tracking and flicking, even the Digital Threat which is the only other tolerable optic but still pretty shit.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Vibe on February 17, 2019, 08:40:04 pm
On a somewhat unrelated note, I really hope they add more 1x sights in March. The only one with a decent sight picture is the HCOG 1x Classic (or whatever). The rest are trash for tracking and flicking, even the Digital Threat which is the only other tolerable optic but still pretty shit.

Yeah, hope they add more 1x as well. Only one I like is the pure red dot (I think that's the HCOG?). Also, sometimes, especially without any sights, the muzzle flash effect is over the top and actually blocks the view. I don't know if there's any special setting to lower it, I already have effects on lowest but sometimes the effects are so over the top it's hard to track targets.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Xant on February 17, 2019, 09:07:16 pm
Yes, HCOG is the pure red dot. Everything else blocks your vision or is too indistinct to be good (Digital Sight). Also not helped by the fact that there are some truly awful ironsights, like Spitfire is basically unusable without optics.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Nickleback on February 17, 2019, 09:47:02 pm
I dont wanna tell u guyz that u dipshits are bunch of losers for playing battle royale.I really not going to say it ,im holding myself.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Xant on February 17, 2019, 09:58:02 pm
Battle royale does indeed suck as you have so aptly pointed out. I really dislike the genre now, especially since no one is brave enough to do away with the retarded RNG at the beginning. It'd make so much more sense to start everyone with a pistol (and in Apex's case, grey armor, because otherwise finding or not finding an armor makes far too big a difference in the outcome of fights). Main thing keeping me from playing more than a few Apex games at a time is the fact I have to endure the beginning RNG looting phase every time. Also, why is every dev so obsessed with dropping down from planes?

Apex's mechanics are good, though, which overshadows the suckiness of BR as a format, at least for a few matches at a time. For getting the "deaths matter + looting" vibe that BRs are famous for, I much prefer Tarkov-like approach (and arguably it makes you even more scared of dying and happier about winning). Even aside from the RNG of who wins and who dies before you're looted up, I don't like the fact that you can't decide which gun you're using (you can't decide to master, say, Spitfire, because you may not find it for several games in a row), or which attachments you get (legendary barrel and/or stock? Or none? What difference do those make for recoil? Who knows! Too random and rare to get used to what they do. And even worse, some guns are unusable without extended mags.)

Apex is ten times more fun when you're looted up than when in the loot phase (or with crap loot). Even just having no shield batteries will mean you can't actually take fights against more than one person because you'll never be able to recharge your shields in time. And that changes the gameplay completely. And so on.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Nickleback on February 17, 2019, 10:03:54 pm
Yes xant i feel you very well brother.The main reason why i hate battle royale is looting part,not the battle part.
Waiting for queue,waiting in menu,waiting in warm up minute,Dev's obssession with jumping down takes 1 min and finally most cancerous ; getting items.And they all vanish when someone shoots u from the back xd.Too much time for me to wait and not get cancer.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Xant on February 18, 2019, 11:20:14 pm
As for the legends, I think Wraith is ridiculously overrated. Her Q makes her extremely vulnerable. She can't see you, she can't draw her gun immediately after exiting, she can't open doors, she's really visible, etc., etc. It's only useful against bad players and in very niche scenarios where you have instant cover and the enemies are far. Like the video I posted last page has more than a few Wraiths using it to absolutely no avail. Her passive is one of the best passives, but in a game like Apex it's just a nice to have, not awesome or anything. Her ult is a double-edged sword at best. Sometimes it can be nice, but as an ultimate it's pretty fucking meh.

Bangalore's just OP, her passive needs a nerf. Her passive is a ten times better Wraith Q and she has it up constantly. The smokes are also too good because once you get Digital Threat, you can just free kill anyone who doesn't have one. Sadly, her voice lines are so fucking cringey and annoying it's hard to play her.

Pathfinder's cool but pretty much the only legend who has no abilities that help in a direct gunfight. Grapple can be useful before or after, but hardly ever during, since you're very vulnerable while in the air. His passive is the worst passive in the game. Knowing where the next circle is does absolutely fucking nothing in this game.

Bloodhound's ult is pretty damn good in theory but in practice I don't like it because enemies glow red and the HCOG's red dot just fuses right into them, making it harder to aim. He also has no mobility/escapes outside of his ult. He's also loud as fuck in his ult.

Mirage is probably my favorite. Another nigh useless passive (except maybe if you have self-revive), but his active is the best active in the game IMO. You can have a decoy up 24/7 to scout for you, and you get a notification about where the enemy shot it from. The uses for decoys are so many, and you can use it while healing. Also a very good counter against Peacekeeper campers in houses. If you know you're against a good player, you can even do some Dota 2 style jukes where you pretend you're a decoy to escape. His ultimate is also one of the better combat ultimates. That's mainly because the competition isn't very stiff, but still. The circle of decoys is basically useless except as visual obstruction, but the movement speed and cloak can be really good. Not as a last minute escape, but for flanking and engaging. Sometimes it can be annoying, though, because you can't end it when you want to. So if you get spotted (by, say, a Bloodhound in ulti) it can fuck you over hard. Doesn't last for that long though and you can usually juke until it ends. But again, there's never a fight where the decoy doesn't help in some way, which is extremely good. Every other legend's active abilities are very situational.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Vibe on February 19, 2019, 09:04:51 am
Bangalore passive is definitely amazing and needs tuning. Her smokes are also great. Probably the best legend right now.

I'd mention Lifeline here being good as well, faster item using and faster revives with that impenetrable shield can be very valuable mid fight. The healing bot is also pretty good as you can recover shields while your bot recovers your (and your teammates) health.

Otherwise agree, Mirage bamboozle skill is great, I don't agree that much on his ulti though, I think it's a bit constricting considering you can't do anything while you're """invisible""". If people are paying attention they're just gonna gun you down and you won't be able to do much about it.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Xant on February 19, 2019, 11:41:03 am
You should never give the enemies the opportunity to gun you down when you use it. You shouldn't try to appear right next to them, but preferably a bit behind. Or just use it at the start of a flank. If they don't see you, great. If they see you, that's fine, you're moving faster than usual and you should be flanking from far enough away that you can't be lasered down before you get to cover. The cloak is a "nice to have", not something you should plan your route around. Then it works great.

And yes, Lifeline is great, just don't play her myself.
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Ikarus on February 19, 2019, 05:19:20 pm
Title: Re: apex legends
Post by: Ikarus on March 13, 2019, 11:09:10 pm
Damn its good, its really good

also, it kind of revived Titanfall 2 aswell which is awesome

playercount TF2 on pc almost got multiplied by over x5
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