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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sauce on April 08, 2018, 10:48:37 pm

Title: Try this!
Post by: Sauce on April 08, 2018, 10:48:37 pm
First off, stop blaming the devs/admins for the population. It's out of fashion. The community is a major reason for the population concerns. Stop whining start recruiting!

Get rid of the socialized commie exp/gold gains and bring back the competitive proximity exp/gold gains, please!

Proximity gains award everyone fighting and dying together in the fun mosh pits.
It penalizes the lone wolf hero troll running around the outside of the map hoping people are watching them (your dad isn't coming back), penalizes range/cavalry as a trade off for being far away and solo(you don't have to nerf range, the system takes care of itself). These are just some benefits. Competing to stay grouped and keep your friends living and dying in a heap are what is good in life.

No more peasant/refugee handouts. Building your character, getting your fashion right, these are what is good in life. Don't take that away from people. When you use all the cheat codes in skyrim, you stop playing skyrim after 10 mins FACT.

My added:

**Give Peasants (anyone under lvl25) a yuuuge bonus proximity modifier for themselves and their teammates around them(Peasant Aura).
Keeping/defending your valued serfs and peasants by your side for as long as possible should be the most beneficial gain. Make being a peasant a most valuable/fun part of the game.  There is a huge apathy for new players other than fresh meat for the grinder. If your clan needs gold for that fucking banner then recruiting/training peasants will be in your best interest. Even provides incentive for veterans to level alts.

Also, first person perspective is fun! Try it!


I am Tiny_Glancer and I'ma go kill myself now.


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Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Asheram on April 08, 2018, 10:59:57 pm
I actually prefer the open steppe, falcons at my breast and the wind in my hair. Please dont punish me for running around the outskirts of the map to try and ninja archers.  :P
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 08, 2018, 11:01:36 pm
Will also mention your idea discourages ranged/cav without the need for hard nerfs (I think that’s a good thing).  I think a big problem over the years was all of the nerfs to a great mod.  So things ended up getting watered down.  It was a repetitive cycle of nerfs over time.

I always thought the current xp system wouldn’t be so bad if team balance wasn’t completely shit.  Maybe a combo of both systems, with decent team balance would work. :?:  maybe remove valor is you had a combo?  I like teamwork being rewarded.

There’s no other game like Warband, and c-rpg mechanics vastly improved Warband multiplayer, never understood why more people didn’t play Warband and specifically c-rpg.  Or why people  stopped playing.  Frustrating to me that napoleonic wars is so popular.  Melee combat is what makes Warband so great.

Also I lance cav in first person
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Asheram on April 08, 2018, 11:04:07 pm
Quote from: CrazyCracka420 on April 08, 2018, 11:01:36 pm
Frustrating to me that napoleonic wars is so popular.  Melee combat is what makes Warband so great.
From what I hear NW is dying because all the players went to Holdfast NaW.
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Sauce on April 08, 2018, 11:07:07 pm
Quote from: CrazyCracka420 on April 08, 2018, 11:01:36 pm
Will also mention your idea discourages ranged/cav without the need for hard nerfs (I think that’s a good thing). 

The benefits just keep hitting. If you wanna be that heavy lancer knight, you gotta pay up for looking dope (worth it). Heavy Cavalry will now be a privileged status as it should with heavy penalties, not for the common folk.
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Porthos on April 08, 2018, 11:16:45 pm
this is how all these "save private crpgayn" topics looks to me:
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Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Heibai on April 08, 2018, 11:27:42 pm
Quote from: Sauce on April 08, 2018, 11:07:07 pm
The benefits just keep hitting. If you wanna be that heavy lancer knight, you gotta pay up for looking dope (worth it). Heavy Cavalry will now be a privileged status as it should with heavy penalties, not for the common folk.

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Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Grytviken on April 08, 2018, 11:32:17 pm
Range killed crpg, everyone knows this

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Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Asheram on April 08, 2018, 11:37:15 pm
Quote from: Grytviken on April 08, 2018, 11:32:17 pm
Range killed crpg, everyone knows this

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Ranged killed the server but couldn't kill a Salad Fork with an arrow to the eye.
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: kasMVC on April 08, 2018, 11:46:43 pm
sauce will you ever say hello to me just wondering i always want to join remnant
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Bronto on April 09, 2018, 12:06:04 am
Best suggestion I've seen in a loooooonnnggg time.

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Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Taser on April 09, 2018, 12:32:53 am
Not a bad suggestion. Encourages peasants and makes money worth something if you want to go off and do your own thing.

Not sure if its possible to make the area of effect be bigger or less based on level but definitely would be up for trying it out.
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Casimir on April 09, 2018, 01:01:28 am
If you bring back XP barn cRPG pop will be 100+ in a matter of days
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on April 09, 2018, 01:28:39 am
i think giving low-level players an enhanced XP aura (if i understood correctly) would be really neat, also more D E P T H to the game from the new contrived class resulting from such a change: peasant aura-whore
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Asheram on April 09, 2018, 01:39:00 am
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Bring on the whora peasant army.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Whora
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 09, 2018, 03:47:52 am
Quote from: Sandersson Jankins on April 09, 2018, 01:28:39 am
i think giving low-level players an enhanced XP aura (if i understood correctly) would be really neat, also more D E P T H to the game from the new contrived class resulting from such a change: peasant aura-whore

all of a sudden the ball fondling of Arys will make sense
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: RD_Professor on April 09, 2018, 04:22:48 am
thanks for the ideas, will keep them in mind but for now fixing pseudonym bug is highest priority code-wise. equipment box bug should be gone fairly soon, definitely the most frustrating thing i've dealt with so far
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Nightingale on April 09, 2018, 06:03:29 am
The proximity xp system was superior to the new age xp system Never understood why this changed.
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Nehvar on April 09, 2018, 06:11:39 am
Quote from: Sauce on April 08, 2018, 10:48:37 pm
First off, stop blaming the devs/admins for the population. It's out of fashion. The community is a major reason for the population concerns.

This in particular.
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Sniger on April 09, 2018, 07:49:48 am
Quote from: Nightingale on April 09, 2018, 06:03:29 am
The proximity xp system was superior Never understood why this changed.

when did it change anyway? only because you mention it, i remember it, it was awesome. did not realize when it was gone and now i wonder why remove this awesome feat?! imo one of the all time best feats.
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: bensai on April 09, 2018, 08:05:51 am
even though bannerlord probably is still a ways away, it's lurking around the corner for a lot of mount and blade players, and I've noticed a lot more activity based off the steam charts of people playing warband (maybe revitalizing their interests or just getting into melee shape) so it's entirely possible to get the mod popping a little bit. although i do feel like trying to regrow crpg at this point is like going to the germans just b4 the battle of the bulge and telling them how to win it, it's not gonna matter anyway since it will probably be over in 6 months anyway.

things I think would help get new players:
-finding someway to get a PROPER THREAD on the taleworlds forums. the taleworlds forums are still pretty active and people go there to find warband mods and bannerlord info. cRPG is literally in a dusty old section of the mods thread and it doesn't have a proper thread of its own with detailed information about the mod (strat, all the armors, leveling system, etc). i tried contacting a forum admin over it a few months ago and he claims that the original crpg devs wanted it like that to promote the use of our own forums here, so unless another dev contacts them they can't change it (idk if professor has this authority status).
-making occasional posts on the steam community hub with screenshots. sorry james, but moddb is pretty dead since 1992, and most people use the steam community hub for reviews and mod recommendations.

things 2 do to get new players 2 stay:
-an active server (new players would never really understand the significance of a database wipe, or getting free looms when they make their account). for real we just need 2 make a "get on NA1 or EU1" post on the steam page at like 6 or 7 cst every evening and people need 2 understand their holy responsibility to play this game
- change upkeep costs and xp somehow. tbh high upkeep costs on plate is as much of a pain in my ass as just transferring some gold from one character to another. new players get hit hard by upkeep, and if they want 2 play some loaded ridiculous build with a bunch of pricey shit, then let them do it. upkeep really does punish the people that shouldn't be affected by it. prox xp would be a good idea


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Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Rando on April 09, 2018, 09:25:03 am
wtf i love Sauce now???
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Leshma on April 09, 2018, 12:38:11 pm
Quote from: Casimir on April 09, 2018, 01:01:28 am
If you bring back XP barn cRPG pop will be 100+ in a matter of days

Haven't played cRPG in four years, same goes for general PC gaming, but I'd be temped to start again if wipe comes with XP barn shit straight outta 2010.

New system is ruthless because it doesn't alleviate grinding, just makes it harder. Old system was pretty awesome and supported casual players.

But cRPG's official Nazi clan was lobbying so hard to change it because it wasn't elite enough for their braindead agenda, in the end chadz caved in and changed it because at about that time he stopped actively playing himself.

Prof isn't familiar with old system which is both blessing and a curse, blessing because devs seem to hate it (muh balance and rest of stupid ideas every cRPG dev seems to have) and curse because he doesn't know advantages of said system.

Basically from casual point of view old XP system was: play couple hours weekly, get to level 15, retire once a week to get that gen bonus. After two months process is much faster due to gen multiplier and you can reach highers levels which make it fun to play. You could be bad at the game but with little bit of mileage on your char you could have higher level char than newer players and enjoy benefits of that. There was none of only elite must win mindset that Mercs and braindead followers of their credo embraced.

I can play four to five hours a week but want something in return, being stinky low level with no looms after three months while some newage pimply faces Euromy old friend kid is rolling full set and high level is precise why I don't want to ever touch current XP system cRPG. It is broken and promotes nolifing.
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Oberyn on April 09, 2018, 12:46:33 pm
Quote from: Leshma on April 09, 2018, 12:38:11 pm
But cRPG's official Nazi clan was lobbying so hard to change it because it wasn't elite enough for their braindead agenda, in the end chadz caved in and changed it because at about that time he stopped actively playing himself.

Do you ever get tired of poorly rewritting history so it fits better in the insane, ever-shifting kindergarden collage you call your perception of reality?
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Jona on April 09, 2018, 04:56:03 pm
Fuck, I find myself agreeing with something Sauce said. Must be a pretty good idea.
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Kadeth on April 10, 2018, 01:57:34 am
CONFESSION

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Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Golem on April 10, 2018, 03:44:57 am
I like it. Won't revive the mod, but I like it. Let's make babies together.

edit: no homo, just to get the population up
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: ArysOakheart on April 11, 2018, 07:43:50 am
All these neckbeards starting a post after we already have a solution. Sauce I give you my blessing, and Betsy's too.
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: ArysOakheart on April 11, 2018, 07:44:47 am
Quote from: Leshma on April 09, 2018, 12:38:11 pm
Haven't played cRPG in four years

Get outta here
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Asheram on April 11, 2018, 07:52:29 am
Quote from: ArysOakheart on April 11, 2018, 07:43:50 am
All these neckbeards starting a post after we already have a solution. Sauce I give you my blessing, and Betsy's too.
Title: Re: Try this!
Post by: Nickleback on April 11, 2018, 11:27:11 am
sauce on this.