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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Asheram on April 08, 2018, 07:27:25 am

Title: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Asheram on April 08, 2018, 07:27:25 am
Levels or looms?
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Dalhi on April 08, 2018, 07:47:48 am
I don't think it is the right question. It's more like do you want to have full armoury and empty servers, becouse this way next chance to have decent amount of players online might be if Bannerlord fails.
I stated it before and I do believe that fresh start might attract players to join, and most likely will. I am not that attached to anything that I have in the game, both looms and lvls I am willing to "sacrifice" if there is a slight chance to have solid playerbase.
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Asheram on April 08, 2018, 08:47:22 am
I would gladly give up every unused loompoint(14) and every mw item(49) I have to keep a level 35 char and to let every player new and old have a level 35 char.
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: IR_Kuoin on April 08, 2018, 08:48:05 am
I always hated grinding my way back up after retiring, so levels. cRPG is boring until you get to around level 25.
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Asheram on April 08, 2018, 08:51:55 am
I always hated grinding my way back up after retiring, so levels. cRPG is boring until you get to around level 25.
If you always hated grinding back up  why would you want to give up levels over looms? I was refering to giving up the high level characters you have already ground out over giving up all your looms/mw items

sry my query was vague

I guess what I was trying to say is I think higher level characters w/o looms have more of an advantage over lower level characters with looms
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Nightingale on April 08, 2018, 01:00:06 pm
Quite frankly if I lost all of my looms or someone decided to make everyone have a lvl 35 build This would cause me to never play again.

Disclaimer I am an entitled whiny cunt and I earned my shit removing my shit would lead to me and like-minded players never looking at cRPG again lol If this is the course of action you want then, by all means, go for it. I'm just a balancer I'm quite sure I won't be missed at all.

maybe some partial wipe would be most ideal. The day the market was implemented was the day gold and looms started to not make sense. I remember when I was the only dumbass with a +3 stick and it was because people had to actually retire and most wouldn't waste looms on such a weapon.

Maybe wipe looms and give people 1 lp for each gen they have? which would practically only harm people that only earned their looms via gold.  This would more than half my current loom pool I have and maybe an entire gold wipe is in question to make gold relevant again? fuck if ik. A wipe might only hurt more than you intend.
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Oberyn on April 08, 2018, 01:32:40 pm

Disclaimer I am an entitled whiny cunt and I earned my shit removing my shit would lead to me and like-minded players never looking at cRPG again

Accurate. Nab who wasn't around for all the other times cRPG got wiped crying bundle of sticks tears about their precious hard "work" being lost. What's the point of lvl 35 chars and looms and cool new armor and weapons if their only use is to coddle your pathetic sense of illusory "wealth"? You sure as fuck aren't going to be using it to, you know, actually play the fucking game, since it's so overwhelmingly dead.
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Nightingale on April 08, 2018, 02:18:20 pm
 I was around when cRPG was wiped I've been playing this mod since before dedicated NA servers so take your superiority complex crap out of here. I -did- earn most of my shit by you know actually playing the game. a partial wipe would be ideal compared to a full wipe is all I am saying.

at least I am a self-aware whiny cunt as opposed to a delusional old bundle of sticks that pretends no one could possibly be as old him.
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Gnjus on April 08, 2018, 02:33:07 pm
Protip Nightingayle - this is what the Mighty Bloberyn actually is:

(click to show/hide)

...so you better not mess around with him or you'll get shred to pieces.
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Bronto on April 08, 2018, 03:17:57 pm
I was around when cRPG was wiped I've been playing this mod since before dedicated NA servers so take your superiority complex crap out of here. I -did- earn most of my shit by you know actually playing the game.

This is true. We both started around the same time and subsequently joined the same "first clan we'd ever been in" together.

I think if player base got wiped of looms and levels the idea that we should get an LP for every gen we'd previously retired would be a good idea. That way people aren't losing everything they've already ground but getting a fresh start along with, hopefully, new players that have stayed away because of how unbalanced certain high level builds have made the mod.
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Nightingale on April 08, 2018, 04:21:17 pm
Protip Nightingayle - this is what the Mighty Bloberyn actually is:

(click to show/hide)

...so you better not mess around with him or you'll get shred to pieces.

He sure is ugly isn't he.
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Oberyn on April 08, 2018, 04:37:07 pm
delusional old bundle of sticks that pretends no one could possibly be as old him.

Unless Variag suddenly appears again then yes, this is absolutely true. cRPG has been wiped 4 times. The proportion of bundle of sticks admins and devs enamoured of the results of their "hard work" (lol) completely explains why cRPG is the way it is right now, why the simple and effective cyclical wipe has been bypassed again and again for irrational tinkering with balance and items as if it could somehow deal with the underlying problem. Result, cRPG is dead and gay, good job.
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Asheram on April 08, 2018, 07:49:58 pm
Quite frankly if I lost all of my looms or someone decided to make everyone have a lvl 35 build This would cause me to never play again.

Disclaimer I am an entitled whiny cunt and I earned my shit removing my shit would lead to me and like-minded players never looking at cRPG again lol If this is the course of action you want then, by all means, go for it. I'm just a balancer I'm quite sure I won't be missed at all.

maybe some partial wipe would be most ideal. The day the market was implemented was the day gold and looms started to not make sense. I remember when I was the only dumbass with a +3 stick and it was because people had to actually retire and most wouldn't waste looms on such a weapon.

Maybe wipe looms and give people 1 lp for each gen they have? which would practically only harm people that only earned their looms via gold.  This would more than half my current loom pool I have and maybe an entire gold wipe is in question to make gold relevant again? fuck if ik. A wipe might only hurt more than you intend.
I only said "give all level 35's" because it wouldn't bother me to give the same footing to others esp new players who will never close the gap, as long as I dont have to regrind it all out again. I dont really care about my loomed items, I care about the extra att/skill points.

My main Asheram is lvl 34 with 200mill xp to lvl 35, he is also 61 gens, so if they use your suggestion I would still have 61 loompoints for him, 25 loompoints for Skillless who is 25 gens, 17 loompoints for Warclock and 17 loompoints for Runs with Scissors, that would make the total 120 lp that makes 40 mw items. Currently I have 49 mw items and 14 unused loompoints.

So if this theoretical way of the wipe happened I would only lose 9 mw items and 14 unused loompoints but I would still quit the game and never look at it again if I had to regrind out levels again esp in the current system. If this was still pod and level 35 was still the retirement level then yeah I would still play even if all was wiped and no looms for gens were given because I had fun at the lvl 34 stage that leads up to the lvl 35 retirement level. I cant say that I have the same amount of fun at the current lvl 30 stage that leads up to the lvl 31 retirement lvl, Dead_Wight is at that stage- lvl 30 with 0 loomed items.
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Nickleback on April 08, 2018, 08:28:32 pm
MA LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMZZ GET AWAY FROM MY PRECIOUS LOOOMMZZZ
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: gallonigher on April 08, 2018, 10:21:14 pm
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: gallonigher on April 08, 2018, 10:22:27 pm
I would gladly give up every unused loompoint(14) and every mw item(49) I have to keep a level 35 char and to let every player new and old have a level 35 char.


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Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Asheram on April 08, 2018, 10:38:29 pm

Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Leshma on April 09, 2018, 12:12:59 am
Unless Variag suddenly appears again then yes, this is absolutely true. cRPG has been wiped 4 times. The proportion of bundle of sticks admins and devs enamoured of the results of their "hard work" (lol) completely explains why cRPG is the way it is right now, why the simple and effective cyclical wipe has been bypassed again and again for irrational tinkering with balance and items as if it could somehow deal with the underlying problem. Result, cRPG is dead and gay, good job.

cRPG was wiped in pre-alpha, when server was so unstable it could barely stay online for couple hours. If you want to wipe beta then you have to provide final version, we all know games get wiped at the end of open beta which is state cRPG has been for past seven years and a bit extra.

Don't hate on wealthy cRPG players, as chadz once said one of the more interesting in cRPG was market manipulation. I was able to do that at one point, a bit like current bitcoin whales are manipulating its price. It was fun, so much fun. None of that matters anymore because mod is effectively dead for more than five years.
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Leshma on April 09, 2018, 12:19:45 am
You know what would be awesome? If one of you American players who is wealthy irl, sued developers over wipe. Just for the lulz. Because that should be possible in USA, you can sue anyone for any stupid reason basically as long you have the money to pay for expensive attorneys who will turn your idiotic reason into court case that has legs. I'm fairly sure cRPG developers have no money for attorneys which would create a precendent and give edge to other online gamers whenever they feel like to sue gamedev companies after items and experience wipes.

I honestly want this to happen in some online community, just to create inconvienience for video game publishers.
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Kadeth on April 09, 2018, 01:01:22 am
I think if player base got wiped of looms and levels the idea that we should get an LP for every gen we'd previously retired would be a good idea. That way people aren't losing everything they've already ground but getting a fresh start along with, hopefully, new players that have stayed away because of how unbalanced certain high level builds have made the mod.

Maybe let people keep their titles or some shit that has zero effect on gameplay, but the appeal of a wipe is a clean slate for everyone, and we don't really get that if all the old players are rewarded with LPs for just having played lots.

Anyway, just delete all these threads because it's never going to happen. Prof seems open to the idea, but iirc James and Uthyr are very opposed. You'd have to get those two on board for it to be a remote possibility, and you'd have more luck PMing them on Discord or something to try to convince them. I mean, these threads clearly aren't going anywhere, this is the 2 billionth wipe thread raising the exact same points lmao

I'm not saying you should give up on the pro-wipe crusade, but i'm giving up boys, you're on your own !!
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: gallonigher on April 09, 2018, 01:30:43 am
someone better warn me before a wipe so I can retire and get my demigod title.
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Asheram on April 09, 2018, 01:31:18 am
Maybe let people keep their titles or some shit that has zero effect on gameplay, but the appeal of a wipe is a clean slate for everyone, and we don't really get that if all the old players are rewarded with LPs for just having played lots.

Anyway, just delete all these threads because it's never going to happen. Prof seems open to the idea, but iirc James and Uthyr are very opposed. You'd have to get those two on board for it to be a remote possibility, and you'd have more luck PMing them on Discord or something to try to convince them. I mean, these threads clearly aren't going anywhere, this is the 2 billionth wipe thread raising the exact same points lmao

I'm not saying you should give up on the pro-wipe crusade, but i'm giving up boys, you're on your own !!
I made this thread not as a pro wipe crusade but more of an opinion thread. Was just curious how many were like me and would rather lose all their looms than lose their high level chars. I am still 11mill xp away from level 32 on Warclok and it still feels like slogging through molasses to get too even with the current xp gain. Probably wont even get there considering how sporadic the server population is.
I highly doubt I would ever even get another char past or even to lvl 32 again if levels were wiped with how low population is, and how not so often it is even populated.

Maybe I should have opened this in general off topic.
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Kadeth on April 09, 2018, 01:41:37 am
yea i know asherguy, just saying, we're going around in circles in every single one of these threads that have appeared in the last couple years, we should get the hint, nothing is going to change. we should go back to memes and trash talk, duel challenge threads etc, what this forum is good for

Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Taser on April 09, 2018, 03:46:36 am
Idaf either way. If mod comes alive with a wipe then cool. If it dies then oof. I'd rather it be semi populated with 20 than with 0 because new people still didn't want to try.

I dont find it a grind to level or to get looms because I play as different chars for fun. If I want a polearm I got dat. Thrower I got dat. Archer I got dat. 2h I got dat. Etc. Complete with troll chars and random looms as well.

But I know some people will just say fuck it if they lose either or both. So it really depends on if you're ok with losing older peeps to get potential new ones.
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 09, 2018, 03:52:18 am
Funny enough when they wiped cRPG the last time I stopped playing for almost a year before getting back in to it, almost completely forgot about the old wipes
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Kadeth on April 09, 2018, 04:47:19 am
Idaf either way. If mod comes alive with a wipe then cool. If it dies then oof. I'd rather it be semi populated with 20 than with 0 because new people still didn't want to try.

that's why you'd do a trial wipe, PAY ATTENTION TASER
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: Jona on April 09, 2018, 05:16:26 pm
someone better warn me before a wipe so I can retire and get my demigod title.

Hah, good luck achieving that title in 1,000,000,000 years.

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#    Name                                            Level         Date
1     Demigod Fenris_kinngrimm         132.26   05/21/2014 10:14
2     Demigod Canary_Of_Chaos           93.12   10/14/2014 22:40
3     Demigod Nuuks_the_Grey_Slave   71.68   10/15/2014 13:04
Title: Re: What would you rather lose...
Post by: gallonigher on April 09, 2018, 07:13:36 pm
Hah, good luck achieving that title in 1,000,000,000 years.

oh rly?

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