Now that you no longer have any drive to play cRPG, hand it over to me big boy.
FIFY
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Oberyn on November 16, 2017, 04:36:58 pm
Cmon man it was obviously a joke. Are there really people so autistic they paid money for looms?
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Bittersteel on November 16, 2017, 04:45:22 pm
Even so, it's obvious that he simply looked for an excuse to ban someone that made him uncomfortable.
No one should be so autistic that they ban me for saying this; I have killed dozens of people on purpose through my years of playing cRPG. Just hand over your "job" or whatever it is you do to someone that can take criticism and isn't emotionally unstable.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Torben on November 16, 2017, 04:57:14 pm
other thread being closed is a classy move.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 16, 2017, 05:05:51 pm
Even so, it's obvious that he simply looked for an excuse to ban someone that made him uncomfortable.
No one should be so autistic that they ban me for saying this; I have killed dozens of people on purpose through my years of playing cRPG. Just hand over your "job" or whatever it is you do to someone that can take criticism and isn't emotionally unstable.
I mean, okay, selling looms for RL money is against the rules, so you stop people from trying to do it -- makes sense.
Retroactively banning someone for saying they sold looms for RL money fucking ages ago is just pure retardation, though.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Jona on November 16, 2017, 09:45:06 pm
Funny how rampant loom buying/selling with rl cash was back in the heyday of crpg, and no one got banned for it. Now when we have no population left people are getting retroactively perma'd for it. :lol:
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: the real god emperor on November 16, 2017, 11:11:03 pm
This forum is no longer used for cRPG stuff even. It's more of a general purpose board with politics, movies and shit. It's one of those moments when you are pissed off at someone but you start feeling sorry for them instead.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Jona on November 16, 2017, 11:18:45 pm
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Torben on November 17, 2017, 10:35:22 am
given - zottle is an A+ my old friend, but id like to take a stand here to unban him, cause. reasons.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Oberyn on November 17, 2017, 11:30:54 am
Retroactively banned for breaking the rules years ago. I feel it's only fair if all DRZ and Greys were finally perma'd for multiaccounting. Not like any play the game anymore anyways lol.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Xant on November 17, 2017, 11:36:04 am
Truly, cRPG chooses the best admins
chadz might be a good coder, but his downfall has always been his utter inability to understand people. It seems he got fucked on OKAM because of that too, unsurprisingly.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Oberyn on November 17, 2017, 01:15:57 pm
I'm going to recycle this image of James sneeringly resting on his throne of looms because it represents over 9000 hours of work on paint, having it be behind a closed thread is a travesty.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Xant on November 17, 2017, 02:21:48 pm
Why isn't Hound's armor +3?
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Oberyn on November 17, 2017, 02:45:11 pm
I decided to take the artistic license and assume the +3 on the armor is off-screen. Also this is merely James's jew weapon horde, the armor looms are in another part of the Red Keep.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Havelle on November 17, 2017, 03:44:08 pm
I have screencaps of James trying to pay me cash for looms, can he get banned for that?
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Vibe on November 17, 2017, 03:52:33 pm
The people in charge of crpg forums right now are in large part OKAM shills anyway. Are you surprised that someone who shills for OKAM has done something else autistic?
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Bittersteel on November 17, 2017, 03:57:00 pm
I have screencaps of James trying to pay me cash for looms, can he get banned for that?
Please post
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: njames89 on November 17, 2017, 04:06:27 pm
This was when havelle asked me for money for wine and I offered to give it to him for free. Also before I was made aware of the rule by dupre.
Try to do something nice for someone but you sure showed me not to make that mistake havelle!
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Bittersteel on November 17, 2017, 04:17:52 pm
Haha it doesn't get any better then this. Unban Zottl then. You know nothing of the circumstances or if he "knew" anything about the rule.
Or don't! And keep retroactively enforcing the rules by banning yourself permanently.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: njames89 on November 17, 2017, 04:19:56 pm
Though havelle tried to lure me into breaking the rules so he could try and get my admin removed, because he is a cunt, I never went through with sending him the wine thankfully and never broke the rules.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Jona on November 17, 2017, 04:21:17 pm
TBH not sure why we didn't remove Havelle from forums as well as the game. Hes permanently banned for ban evading already.
Because despite however many times you get banned on one or the other, the bans don't carry over unless you do something banworthy on each individually. I.e. Allers wasn't banned from the forums each and every time he was banned in-game. Nor was panos, afaik. Only lately have mods/admins deemed it 'necessary' to ban someone on one medium for an infraction on the other. In short, zottl "should" (lol) have been banned in-game for breaking the mod's rules. However the ban shouldn't have carried over to the forum. The reason for this is simple, when banned from the mod, you were told to make your case in the unban section of the forums. Something you obviously can't do if you're wrongfully banned from the forum as well.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Bittersteel on November 17, 2017, 04:26:44 pm
Though havelle tried to lure me into breaking the rules so he could try and get my admin removed, because he is a cunt, I never went through with sending him the wine thankfully and never broke the rules.
So, this is the point where you provide the proof of Zottl selling looms? Or do I get banned for claiming I've teamkilled you a thousand times on purpose?
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: njames89 on November 17, 2017, 04:27:06 pm
I'm not gonna have Havelle spewing some bullshit about how I tried to sell him looms :lol:. He tried to get me to do it and it didn't work. Hes also never gonna be allowed to play the game again because of how he behaved to a bunch of the admins and how he broke the rules. That's the way she goes.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Turkhammer on November 17, 2017, 05:56:31 pm
Retroactively banned for breaking the rules years ago. I feel it's only fair if all DRZ and Greys were finally perma'd for multiaccounting. Not like any play the game anymore anyways lol.
Retroactive banning means he was banned for something that was made an offense after he did the act. It does not mean a lengthy delay in the administration of a ban.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Xant on November 17, 2017, 10:48:57 pm
Holy fuck hahahah.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Molly on November 17, 2017, 10:52:46 pm
BOOOH! BOOOOOOOH! BOOOOOOOOOOH!
Also lol.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: RD_Professor on November 17, 2017, 11:25:10 pm
This ban came about because he posted that he had sold looms for cash this week or so. It's not that us admins were furiously searching through all of his posts, trying to dig up dirt on him so that we could ban him, no, he flat out said that he broke the rules.
Poor analogy here, but if someone tells a police officer that they murdered someone 20 years ago, odds are that person will be arrested and punished accordingly.
Should he have been banned from forums? Perhaps not. As some have said, how can he tell his side of it if he's banned on the forums? Then again, there isn't much else to tell when you admit to selling looms for cash.
Here's the post. Context is James asked him how many looms he had.
I played the market well and had like 35 +3s, but I sold them for real life cash just before the patch of destiny when there was a lot of hype. It was a smart move.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Bittersteel on November 17, 2017, 11:31:29 pm
Ehm yes, everyone knows that? Read the thread, maybe?
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: the real god emperor on November 17, 2017, 11:32:07 pm
As you said. Poor analogy. You are not the police. They are not murderers. Buying selling looms for real money never ended up with a forum ban. You realise that we don't use this forum because we can't let crpg go, we are here cus it's a good board. You can't ban people from forums randomly just because you hold the ropes now. Ban from the game? Nobody cares. It was a retarded decision.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Xant on November 17, 2017, 11:35:44 pm
Classic power trip move from new admins.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Jona on November 17, 2017, 11:36:16 pm
Poor analogy here, but if someone tells a police officer that they murdered someone 20 years ago, odds are that person will be arrested and punished accordingly.
I'm sure the cops would at least ask the man who he murdered, that way they can check their files and see if that person existed and indeed got murdered. If not, then he's just a loony toon and/or someone seeking attention. Needless to say the police officers would then proceed to take an official statement, admission of guilt, etc. Similarly, you don't get arrested in Russia for a minor infraction you committed in Mexico. Same goes for crpg - the mod and the forums have always been two separate entities, and the punishment very rarely, if ever would cross over. Infinitely more in-game bans have been handed out than forum bans.
Sure, as you pointed out, the analogy doesn't hold up 1:1, but we should at least have stricter regulations around here other than "he said something, let's believe it and punish him accordingly." Think about it, if I said "Professor sold looms back in the day," would the other devs instantly ban you? Unlikely, they would instead ask for proof first. Same standards apply with an admission of guilt, especially since no one tried so hard as to ask "wait, seriously?" to get confirmation one way or the other.
Edit: Similarly, Havelle got banned only because he "spread lies and slander" about good ole James here. Sorry, but that has never been a ban-worthy offense on the forums, especially if you only made one post about it. If you spam it in every thread, well that can understandably lead to a mute, then a longer mute, and eventually perhaps a ban, yes. But one post saying "i have the dirt on him, lel" is a far cry from a permaban.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 18, 2017, 06:05:53 am
Dishing out bans in a near dead community for a dead mod. Its almost as if it wouldve been better to just drop development so we can at least keep forums on life support.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Molly on November 18, 2017, 09:08:37 pm
That's what happens when you let amateurs run a board full of pro trolls...
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Vibe on November 27, 2017, 01:38:09 pm
powertripping on an almost dead community :lol:
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Turkhammer on November 28, 2017, 02:30:07 am
Well if it's a dead mod and an almost dead forum what does it matter if anyone is banned? Liking to bitch about nothing is the answer I guess.
Title: Re: Zottlmarsch
Post by: Kadeth on November 28, 2017, 03:08:21 am