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Title: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Leshma on September 29, 2016, 01:51:23 am
Any interesting stuff to share with gatekeeper of cRPG?
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Gurgumul on September 29, 2016, 02:49:15 am
OKAM is temporarily dying. There used to be multiple full servers with 150 players each, now it's about 80 worldwide, at least in the evening. There's not much to do, since Epic is not yet released, and the regular combat mode suffers from repetitiveness and lack of diversity. Being limited to 13th century means that you've got nowhere near as much various equipment as in cRPG, so you only have different kinds of leather, mail, and scale, all pretty similar. Weapons are pretty limited too, they all feel more or less the same to me. There are only 4 stats you can level: health, damage, attack speed, and movement speed. Again - not even close to cRPG's diversity of builds. I can understand why the devs decided to settle on 13th century - no firearms. But then it's their game and they don't have to stick to realism so strictly. They could introduce a bit of fantasy/alternative history to the game and make a period when there was both the classic medieval stuff and "firearm period" stuff like plate armour, bigass 2h swords, rapiers etc., but no firearms. Each next update will bring a new wave of players, some of which will go meh after a while, some will stay. This will probably keep repeating until Epic or some other persistent feature gets released.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: zottlmarsch on September 29, 2016, 12:31:27 pm
okam is shit.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Xesta on September 29, 2016, 04:24:56 pm
Duel me on eu3, fggts.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: saccizord on September 30, 2016, 09:40:46 pm
Sadly right now it's not even close to the quality of crpg
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Suedehead on September 30, 2016, 09:52:10 pm
Can you please lasts enough there till i buy new PC and try it?Thank you.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: the real god emperor on October 01, 2016, 10:16:20 am
OKAM is temporarily dying. There used to be multiple full servers with 150 players each, now it's about 80 worldwide, at least in the evening. There's not much to do, since Epic is not yet released, and the regular combat mode suffers from repetitiveness and lack of diversity. Being limited to 13th century means that you've got nowhere near as much various equipment as in cRPG, so you only have different kinds of leather, mail, and scale, all pretty similar. Weapons are pretty limited too, they all feel more or less the same to me. There are only 4 stats you can level: health, damage, attack speed, and movement speed. Again - not even close to cRPG's diversity of builds. I can understand why the devs decided to settle on 13th century - no firearms. But then it's their game and they don't have to stick to realism so strictly. They could introduce a bit of fantasy/alternative history to the game and make a period when there was both the classic medieval stuff and "firearm period" stuff like plate armour, bigass 2h swords, rapiers etc., but no firearms. Each next update will bring a new wave of players, some of which will go meh after a while, some will stay. This will probably keep repeating until Epic or some other persistent feature gets released.

Firearms would be glorious tho, imagine handgonne battalions in epic
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Mlekce on October 01, 2016, 11:02:39 am
CRPG> empty space > empty space > empty space >okam

Only bought it as gratitude for the time i spent playing crpg.

Combat is meh, except killing ppl there is nothing to do.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Mlekce on October 01, 2016, 11:05:49 am
Can't beleve they shut down DTV. Nooo. Any ideas how much should cost us to rent crpg servers? Would donate some cash fot that cause.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: the real god emperor on October 01, 2016, 11:18:49 am
I would be in to play Nord Invasion altogether tbh
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Dupre on October 01, 2016, 06:44:38 pm
Can't beleve they shut down DTV. Nooo. Any ideas how much should cost us to rent crpg servers? Would donate some cash fot that cause.

DTV servers are up. Doesn't show up on the website but if you log in you'll see them on the server list.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: axel on October 02, 2016, 01:35:31 pm
is there still people on EU_1 actively? I might just play with them with my godly 100ping until they release a new patch on OKAM.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Leshma on October 02, 2016, 03:25:08 pm
Nope. Even after all these years, we are waiting for M&B2.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Mlekce on October 02, 2016, 06:42:43 pm
This is the stupidest shit eva. Killed the mod and game that should replace it is gonna die too.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Yuang on October 02, 2016, 09:17:30 pm
If buy, I would rather buy CRPG.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: _Zetan_ on October 03, 2016, 01:25:14 am
i bought the game and cant even play it. The settings are all the way down and still laggy as shit. I really dislike the okam and rather crpg still be playable.
I know the creators wanted to make some cash and have their own game but man this sucks.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Golem on October 03, 2016, 04:57:11 am
It's not so bad. I personally liked the combat in the prealpha tests more than the one after release, but it might just be because of the hit detection being fucked atm.
Anyway let's hope it gets better. Afterall, black&white cRPG.txt also wasn't the best thing ever, but it turned out pretty good...
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Yeldur on October 03, 2016, 10:10:44 am
I can't be asked to write basically the exact same thing so i'm copy pasting my comment from discord:

All that's happening is that people are waiting for content, that's it. I'm not playing because I want to wait for more content to get into the game (Well.. I also bought EU4 and now I'm addicted) it's not that people are leaving and giving up on the game, it's that they want new shit to enjoy and are just waiting for it to appear.

The reason I'm okay with waiting is because I don't mind how long it takes, that's not the same as everyone else, but I'm still with the game regardless of whether it takes 5 years to complete (Even though that won't happen due to budgets etc etc.)

Game isn't dying, it's just that people are getting bored of doing the same thing over and over, if you do too much of the same game it kills it off, I can't play one game forever, it just wouldn't work out properly, I'd get bored and eventually hate the game. Which is exactly why I take large breaks after I've played a lot of a game.



I love OKAM personally and am happy it exists, we just gotta wait for more shit to appear. Also can we stop acting like OKAM killed C-RPG? C-RPG has been slowly dying for years now, people have gotten bored of it. Was OKAM the final nail in the coffin? Yeah. Kinda. But let's face the facts, if people wanted to play C-RPG they would, and they're not. Let's not act as if the big bad OKAM destroyed it.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Hearst_ on October 03, 2016, 02:25:02 pm
Shiet af. I want my money back.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Asheram on October 03, 2016, 05:41:09 pm


TLDR


Also can we stop acting like OKAM killed C-RPG? C-RPG has been slowly dying for years now, people have gotten bored of it. Was OKAM the final nail in the coffin? Yeah. Kinda. But let's face the facts, if people wanted to play C-RPG they would, and they're not. Let's not act as if the big bad OKAM destroyed it.
No we can't.
But that's OK as native works just fine for me now.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Yeldur on October 03, 2016, 06:39:42 pm
No we can't.
But that's OK as native works just fine for me now.
Lol okay then buddy, blame it on whatever you want. I think I'll blame it on 9/11 today. Maybe tomorrow I'll blame it on this pizza place I liked shutting down. Damn pizza place, ruined C-RPG!
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Rest_in_Peace on October 03, 2016, 06:54:42 pm
hi
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Leshma on October 03, 2016, 07:11:24 pm
I was much hyped after those initial combat tests because it looked really good and promising. Like actual improvement on Warband mechanics. But these early alpha videos have combat that looks just as bad like War of the Roses/Vikings. Stiff animations, horrible leg movement. Won't even go into changes they made. chadz called it good change, I remember when he wrote that missive explaining how there is no perfect combat system but they think new change is in the right direction. Maybe if polished, dunno, atm definitely it isn't.

I mean Warband combat looks awful after you stop playing it for awhile, but at least it has incredible depth to keep you occupied. Haven't seen any depth in OKAM combat so far. On the other hand, those Bannerlord videos look sweet. Definite improvement over Warband combat, you can see it even from videos.

Epic will probably bail this game out. But combat which should be strong point of such game, just isn't where it should be.

Also the direction they choose, removal of super builds and incentive to grind. I did joke but there is some truth to it when I said chadz that I'm his average consumer, pathetic bastard who's grinding for stats whole day. Unfortunately, that seems to be the case, people playing video games like to waste time grinding for boosts and pixelated goods. Systems that try to circumvent that don't go very well with players and those games eventually die. Grind and potential builds were big part why cRPG took off, those crazy lvl 45 gen 60 potential builds made players work for it and play whole goddamn day.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Asheram on October 03, 2016, 07:14:05 pm
Damn pizza place, ruined C-RPG!
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EDIT: according to your long post that I replied to you say people stopped playing cRPG because they got bored with it why then are there always alot of people still playing native which is alot more restrictive and more potential for boredom?
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: zottlmarsch on October 03, 2016, 08:28:43 pm
My okam forum mysteriously hasn't worked (can't post) since the day I threatened to set fire to zimkes beard if he didn't add lederhosen and he sent me a fail warning. If devs can't handle a simple joke these days then fuck knows how they are dealing with all this negative press and feedback.

Crpg with 0 population > okam
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Yeldur on October 03, 2016, 11:25:04 pm


EDIT: according to your long post that I replied to you say people stopped playing cRPG because they got bored with it why then are there always alot of people still playing native which is alot more restrictive and more potential for boredom?
People are idiots, that doesn't make my point incorrect.
I could also argue the point of "Why weren't they playing C-RPG when C-RPG was popular" it's because C-RPG wasn't played by everyone in native.
Native is the base game, base games always have large population, mods however, do not.

People still play Call of Duty 4, people still play Dark Souls, people still play Battlefield Vietnam. There's a big difference between a GAME and a MOD.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Sauce on October 04, 2016, 04:08:25 am
I would pay modestly for a c-RPG pre 2012 "Tydeus & Shit-Balance-Team" item/stat fuckups.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: the real god emperor on October 04, 2016, 08:47:34 am
I would pay modestly for a c-RPG pre 2012 "Tydeus & Shit-Balance-Team" item/stat fuckups.

Tydeus owes a time machine to all of us.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Gurgumul on October 04, 2016, 12:30:55 pm
Could anyone shortly summarize the history of cRPG? I'm relatively a newmy old friend here (played a bit in 2013/2014, got addicted in 2015), so I don't know all of this Tydesu drama.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Yeldur on October 04, 2016, 01:56:49 pm
Could anyone shortly summarize the history of cRPG? I'm relatively a newmy old friend here (played a bit in 2013/2014, got addicted in 2015), so I don't know all of this Tydesu drama.

1 day chad wus build c arr pee gee an he was lik "fk i hate every1" so then he hired cmp
the end

plz dont hurt me cmp was just a prank bro
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Algarn on October 04, 2016, 04:20:02 pm
Could anyone shortly summarize the history of cRPG? I'm relatively a newmy old friend here (played a bit in 2013/2014, got addicted in 2015), so I don't know all of this Tydesu drama.

Mostly AGI vs STR changes, melee buffs, archery and cavalry nerfs. This heavily nerfed Strength based builds, and made a new whole kind of builds appear, centred around WPFs for spamming. All in all, wasn't good for the game, and population started to get lower and lower.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Yeldur on October 04, 2016, 05:22:07 pm
Mostly AGI vs STR changes, melee buffs, archery and cavalry nerfs. This heavily nerfed Strength based builds, and made a new whole kind of builds appear, centred around WPFs for spamming. All in all, wasn't good for the game, and population started to get lower and lower.

I don't actually remember when I started playing but I remember STR builds becoming a lot harder to play so maybe I was around for it :o
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Rhaegar on October 04, 2016, 07:56:39 pm
I would be happy if chadz understand that no one likes to crawl as he fights,and if no one walks is chasing an enemy!This is a simulator of the medieval handicapped!?!
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Uther Pendragon on October 05, 2016, 12:13:49 am
My okam forum mysteriously hasn't worked (can't post) since the day I threatened to set fire to zimkes beard if he didn't add lederhosen and he sent me a fail warning. If devs can't handle a simple joke these days then fuck knows how they are dealing with all this negative press and feedback.

Crpg with 0 population > okam

bitch i told u shits bugged and you're not the only one, theres no big brother in okam forums goddamnit
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Yeldur on October 05, 2016, 03:06:26 am
IT'S A CONSPIRACY, UTHER IS JUST LYING TO MAKE US THINK WE'RE NOT ALL IN DANGER OF BRAINWASHING

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Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Paul on October 05, 2016, 11:29:28 am
I think okam will get more diverse in the future(soontm), both in terms of items and character customisation. I know how much all of you love diversity because you are all right.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: zottlmarsch on October 05, 2016, 11:33:03 am
bitch i told u shits bugged and you're not the only one, theres no big brother in okam forums goddamnit

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Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Leshma on October 05, 2016, 03:57:56 pm
I think okam will get more diverse in the future(soontm), both in terms of items and character customisation. I know how much all of you love diversity because you are all right.

What is your take on combat?
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: AwesomeHail on October 05, 2016, 04:07:01 pm
Meanwhile, I am playing the shitty rip-off Mercenaries mod where archers and str rule the world, and 18-18 is the norm.

I hate it, but I need to fuel my addiction somehow ;-;


I have tried OKAM for a bit, and seen some vids, but I can't really get to like it. Maybe that will change in the future.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Paul on October 05, 2016, 07:32:57 pm
What is your take on combat?

Needs fixing for hit-detection and client-server-sync but it's doable imo and devs are aware. But that will take time so for now it's sit back and wait/do something else. Once it is on a stable foundation it will be the best on the market.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: kwhy on October 06, 2016, 03:38:02 am
OKAM looks great, but the game has been pretty dead lately on NA (22 on 08:35PM CST while I sit here eating my jello fruit cup).   The initial few weeks it was pretty epic with 140 players on a server (eye candy) and not too much lag.  The combat in OKAM is fun when your playing with a lot of people, but duels seem to linger on especially when two players are experienced which usually ends when someone else steps in.

Right now the problem with OKAM is there isn't much substance behind the eye candy.   I don't think just adding more content (like weapons/armor) is going to get people playing more nor adding the EPIC mode (strategus).  I think they need to get the leveling system/ money? / store? / stat system / possible / customization/ possible looms going because the temporary stat system/unlock tree just seems like a step back from what CRPG had to offer.

Shame since I think they could have just copied CRPG with the banners/ marketplace / store / looms/ stats leveling and at least probably have players playing right now, but it seems like their attempt to make the game more accessible to average players is making the game less enjoyable to long hardcore players which are the ones that are logging in each night. 

I still check the CRPG servers each night, then OKAM servers, and then find myself back to TDM native having fun in there just because it is populated.

Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Leshma on October 06, 2016, 04:37:45 pm
Star Wars: Battlefront, EA made triple A game set in motherfucking Star Wars universe currently peaks around 5000 players on PC. Not even full year has passed since release.

cRPG was truly something special, I think we had fairly active 3000 people player base two years after mod was initially released as alfabeta. Mod for a niche game sustaining high player counts. Must be that it was doing something well?
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Yeldur on October 09, 2016, 06:12:27 pm
We're not going to see anything like C-RPG again, it was that one of a kind thing that was incredibly special, it makes me sad that it's dead and we won't really see anything as good and as popular as it used to be, but that's life. OKAM probably won't be as good as C-RPG ever was, that's something that I think is true, but I do think that OKAM could easily evolve into something brilliant, it just needs time to come out of its cocoon.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Gurgumul on October 09, 2016, 06:33:45 pm
We're not going to see anything like C-RPG again
Unless someone takes up the task of porting cRPG into Bonerlord. Imagine that, good old cRPG but with modern graphics, lots of new items, and maybe some new features.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Asheram on October 09, 2016, 08:35:08 pm
We're not going to see anything like C-RPG again
Unless someone takes up the task of porting cRPG into Bonerlord. Imagine that, good old cRPG but with modern graphics, lots of new items, and maybe some new features.
I agree Gurgumul, the only things that made cRPG better than Native was that you were not locked into 1 nations gear sets (being limited to the gear from the side you picked) and being able to fiddle with your stats to fine tune a classes build. I dont think it would be that hard to replicate in Bannerlord and I hope someone does.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: the real god emperor on October 09, 2016, 09:20:35 pm
I dunno about "cRPG" itself, but I'm pretty sure there will be a few similiar mods, what I'm waiting for is Nord Invasion and Swadian Roleplay for now.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Varadin on October 10, 2016, 02:23:03 pm
Just abandon the game and make a crpg2 for bannerlord and let it be DLC for 20 bucks and you would earn even more.

But i guess dreams are only dreams.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Yeldur on October 11, 2016, 01:34:19 am
Unless someone takes up the task of porting cRPG into Bonerlord. Imagine that, good old cRPG but with modern graphics, lots of new items, and maybe some new features.
I agree Gurgumul, the only things that made cRPG better than Native was that you were not locked into 1 nations gear sets (being limited to the gear from the side you picked) and being able to fiddle with your stats to fine tune a classes build. I dont think it would be that hard to replicate in Bannerlord and I hope someone does.
New weapons, new armour, new horses, new throwing weapons, new ranged weapons, the fact that archery was made more balanced by removing their ability to fire like a minigun like they can in native.

Those are just a few of the advantages of C-RPG, order now for only $59.99 and you'll receive the katana dlc for 5% off!
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Yeldur on October 11, 2016, 01:35:27 am
Just abandon the game and make a crpg2 for bannerlord and let it be DLC for 20 bucks and you would earn even more.

But i guess dreams are only dreams.
I'm fairly sure that there's  legal ramifications that prevents mods from being monetised, because you're making money off of another companies game. At the very least donkey crew would be forced to give a large sum of whatever they earn to Taleworlds.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Asheram on October 11, 2016, 01:46:22 am
New weapons, new armour, new horses, new throwing weapons, new ranged weapons, the fact that archery was made more balanced by removing their ability to fire like a minigun like they can in native.
I already mentioned gear and stats and I said better not more advantageous. The things I mentioned are the only things I miss about crpg over native.

edit: also Yeldur l2 mutli quote better as I didnt say "Unless someone takes up the task of porting cRPG into Bonerlord. Imagine that, good old cRPG but with modern graphics, lots of new items, and maybe some new features." Gurgumul did.
Title: Re: How's life in OKAM going?
Post by: Asheram on August 18, 2018, 09:27:55 pm
Any interesting stuff to share with gatekeeper of cRPG?

early footage from 2 years ago so maybe if Ironhawk is talking about it now its going somewhere-
lol this video was taken down immediately after I posted it here.