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Off Topic => General Off Topic => Topic started by: Leshma on June 29, 2016, 03:43:47 am
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Istanbul Ataturk airport attack: At least 36 dead and dozens injured (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36658187?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central)
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Betting that Erdogan will blame it on the Kurds.. :lol:
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Fuckers
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its ok because its turkey
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The security is weird in Turkey. Just a simple example from my subway experience. They always hold me to check my backpack while a long bearded random guy walks away freely or a woman with a turban. They don't check them. Same goes for the airport. Nobody ask them to remove the turban or the large thing they are wearing. If i complain about it they will probably curse me or even worse for insulting islam...
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The security is weird in Turkey. Just a simple example from my subway experience. They always hold me to check my backpack while a long bearded random guy walks away freely or a woman with a turban. They don't check them. Same goes for the airport. Nobody ask them to remove the turban or the large thing they are wearing. If i complain about it they will probably curse me or even worse for insulting islam...
Well have you ever considered not looking so suspicious?
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The security is weird in Turkey. Just a simple example from my subway experience. They always hold me to check my backpack while a long bearded random guy walks away freely or a woman with a turban. They don't check them. Same goes for the airport. Nobody ask them to remove the turban or the large thing they are wearing. If i complain about it they will probably curse me or even worse for insulting islam...
Afaik most of the fighting/suiciding happened outside the airport itself.
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Turkish authorities are suspecting metrosexual terrorists and profile searches accordingly.
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Whats the new name of the Kemal Ataturk airport?
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Betting that Erdogan will blame it on the Kurds.. :lol:
Some people actually tried to argue about Constition being old over the attack, I mean, what? It doesn't have anything slight to do with that lmao.
Afaik most of the fighting/suiciding happened outside the airport itself.
It happened on the International Arrivals Terminal. They almost always target foreigners and/or Erdogan opposers. If you or anyone you know is planing a vacation on Turkey, not only this year, anytime even on peace times, tell them not to come. You don't get bombed, oh good, then there is a high probability that you might get raped, murdered, mugged.
Stability -3 National Unrest +20 Rebellions going on and have many %90s everywhere throughout the country.
And the topic of Erdogan's speech* today was Turkey sending help to Palestine and stuff related to that, how good.
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If you or anyone you know is planing a vacation on Turkeyin Russia, not only this year, anytime even on peace times, tell them not to come. You don't get bombed, oh good, then there is a high probability that you might get raped, murdered, mugged.
Stability -3 National Unrest +20 Rebellions going on and have many %90s everywhere throughout the country.
This as well, unfortunately.
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that's said, i've used ataturk for quite a few times. i think its time for turks to decide where they really want to stand and if they want to fight the long hidden daemons or go back to medieval times.
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that's said, i've used ataturk for quite a few times. i think its time for turks to decide where they really want to stand and if they want to fight the long hidden daemons or go back to medieval times.
The average dimwit is still clueless about what to make of these recent attacks. You know what the problem is? These attacks keep occurring in metropolitan cities, far from the blissful ignorance of Anatolian retards. Bombs should be served right to their little cities, to their doormats if possible. One thing you should know about the average Turk is that he won't wake up until he himself and his family is hurt or until the pain is directly right to him. Symphathy for others and just a little bit advanced analysis of things... These two things don't exist in his vocabulary. He has to suffer to wake up.
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Where are you from in Turkey, Daunt_Flockula, somewhere west, right? Is it correct to assume many Turks here in cRPG are western Turks from major cities?
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Where are you from in Turkey, Daunt_Flockula, somewhere west, right? Is it correct to assume many Turks here in cRPG are western Turks from major cities?
I am living in İstanbul, but I was born in Trabzon, a city in Eastern Black Sea region. And your assumption is correct. I think there are a few other Turks from some other Anatolian cities though.
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that's said, i've used ataturk for quite a few times. i think its time for turks to decide where they really want to stand and if they want to fight the long hidden daemons or go back to medieval times.
I think the way Erdogan's blatant islamist policies have the support of the majority of turks is an answer, one that has been given a while ago. Westerners have their heads up their own asses gazing at their idealized future, so they don't want to see it.
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Must be hard on yourself to hate your country so much :rolleyes:
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The country itself is as beautiful as it gets. It is the people I hate. Imagine not being able to get bewildered about anything anymore. These retards get you to that point. Some shit happens. Before you get enough time to get it out of your head, something a lot worse happens.
Think about it. People like me feel like we are drowning day after day. And these fucking retards are so happy in their homes right now. The one and only thing they manage to question about this whole incident is "How on earth was this guy able to avoid an airport's security?". Nothing more. This is their entire discussion topic. It is impossible for them to build the basic connection between their holy shepherd and the jihadist goatfuckers he has been feeding. It drives you insane.
By the way, they are already over it. Right now they are busy about their fasting, football matches and the trademark moronic religious banters on tv. Because you know, Ramadan and stuff...
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Whats the new name of the Kemal Ataturk airport?
Oh Panos... you are a wrongun.
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can you recommend any literature about social state of turkey? Id like to learn more about the things going on in your country.
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can you recommend any literature about social state of turkey? Id like to learn more about the things going on in your country.
There are a number of good resources, yet I doubt you would find any translated versions. Some works were authored by western researchers. However, they are mainly "orientalist" works and wouldn't cast much of an objective light on the society. I will look into it though. With some luck, I might be able to dig something up.
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There are a number of good resources, yet I doubt you would find any translated versions. Some works were authored by western researchers. However, they are mainly "orientalist" works and wouldn't cast much of an objective light on the society. I will look into it though. With some luck, I might be able to dig something up.
yo ive been reading some stuff from orientalists, but there is more about the arabic world then turkey actually
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Turkey was Ottoman Empire aka monarchy (sultanate), everybody was happy while they were winning wars. Not just Turks but Serbs, Albanians, Bosniaks, Greeks, Bulgarians, Indians, Egyptians and rest of the people who were under Ottoman rule for centuries. They didn't mind while Ottoman were strong. They paid some taxes and their able children were taken overboard to become best students, scholars and soldiers of the empire. But life wasn't that bad and as history will show, it was better than what is about to come for those colonies in the future.
Then Ottoman became weak, started losing wars, colonies started uprisings. Everything went to shit. Lost WWI. Kemal the fucker came onto stage, said yo sultan dick suckers fuck you and your religion, your multinational state and everything you stand for. He changed Ottomans into Turks, gave them pride back. Made them great again. They became friends with Murica when it was time to choose between capitalist swine or communist idealism. Communist failed because they were never friends with Russian Empire so they didn't want to fall under their influence and also because communism is kinda like their sultanate, it tends to suppress national feelings that were already deeply rooted in hearts and minds of Turkish youth.
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What if you got into politics and ruled the people like an angry God?
Turkish people are currently ruled by an angry nutjob who considers himself to be a god or something. Where is the novelty in that?
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Turkey was Ottoman Empire aka monarchy (sultanate), everybody was happy while they were winning wars. Not just Turks but Serbs, Albanians, Bosniaks, Greeks, Bulgarians, Indians, Egyptians and rest of the people who were under Ottoman rule for centuries. They didn't mind while Ottoman were strong. They paid some taxes and their able children were taken overboard to become best students, scholars and soldiers of the empire. But life wasn't that bad and as history will show, it was better than what is about to come for those colonies in the future.
Then Ottoman became weak, started losing wars, colonies started uprisings. Everything went to shit. Lost WWI. Kemal the fucker came onto stage, said yo sultan dick suckers fuck you and your religion, your multinational state and everything you stand for. He changed Ottomans into Turks, gave them pride back. Made them great again. They became friends with Murica when it was time to choose between capitalist swine or communist idealism. Communist failed because they were never friends with Russian Empire so they didn't want to fall under their influence and also because communism is kinda like their sultanate, it tends to suppress national feelings that were already deeply rooted in hearts and minds of Turkish youth.
Turkey wasn't Ottoman Empire. It was a part of it and Turks were merely just another nation in the Empire. The rulers or the statesmen called themselves Ottomans not Turks, the language they spoke was something in between Persian,Arabic and Turkish.
In Ottoman Empire military service wasn't mandatory for non-Turks, as Turks were mostly busy with farming and co while Jews, Greeks etc are traders, engineers, architects etc.
That's how Mustafa Kemal united the naive common folk in Anatolia. If they had some sort of prosperity, knowledge or anything, the revolution wouldn't succeed as it did. Besides, nobody even Kemal's closest companions knew that he meant to establish something like a Republic, nobody agreed with him either, but he still did it, changed the culture of a nation completely, thus saving us from being another colony of the great powers.
He did everything forcefully though. Most of the folk didn't agree with him in his time too, they wanted the Sheria, the Monarchs back. They weren't too loud back then, as most of the people actually have seen the salvation in modernization.But throughout the century, that faded away. It's like a counter-revolution you know, Turkey was in a revolutionary state for a hundred years almost and now it is going back to its original state; a bunch of farmer people who loves and worships a Padishah.
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I wasn't serious, obviously...
But since you are, please tell me, which nation occupies Anatolia today: Turks (Turkic or whatever they are called, who are basically nomads came from regions of today Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan) or Seljuks? I'm talking about ancestors of common people who live in those towns, villages and cities?
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I wasn't serious, obviously...
But since you are, please tell me, which nation occupies Anatolia today: Turks (Turkic or whatever they are called, who are basically nomads came from regions of today Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan) or Seljuks? I'm talking about ancestors of common people who live in those towns, villages and cities?
I knew you weren't serious, I wasn't offended or anything, just wanted to share.
Plz nobody is sure of their heritage anymore, especially in a country like Turkey, you can be a blonde Turk or a sandnig Turk, our gene pool is weird.
But I see your point with that question, but still, common people in Anatolia were Turks, what you point out has a lot to do with migrations, population exchanges and colonization.
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Just a little update, which is essential for you guys to further understand what kind of shit we have to live with.
So what do you do when such a lethal attack happens in your country? You mourn, right? You don't go ahead and do fancy stuff. Especially if you are a government official, you just can't fuck around. I mean you aren't expected to stop whatever shit you are doing, yet you mourn.
Here is how we roll in Turkey: We conduct a banterous and cheerful opening ceremony for a bridge just the next morning after the attack. Can't let tens of dead bodies spoil our fun, can we? Selfies aren't skipped.
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The two pumpkin heads on the left are ministers. The one on the right is the mayor of İstanbul. See how many fucks they give?
The story goes on. There is this internationally-acclaimed Turkish motorcyclist. Not giving a name, as I don't like the guy one bit and it matters little. They invite him to hit 400 kmh speed on motorbike on this new bridge as a sideshow. He accepts. He gives zero fucks too. He does his thing, after which the great Tard meets him. Before that, there is something you should know about the motorbike guy. He lost his parents at a young age. He lost both of his brothers. He lost his first-born son. And he also recently lost his grandfather, who raised him. A macabre life right there. So as soon as the Tard shakes his hand, he delivers the opening sentence "Have you even got anyone else left in your family". As crazy as this sounds, it happened exactly like that.
And what do you expect in this case? People would hate it, right? What kind of creature says that? Well, his sheep didn't mind it at all. As far as they are concerned, it didn't even happen. Hell, the bombing didn't even happen. Forget it all. The motorbike guy himself? Yeah, he doesn't mind either. He is totally fine with it. On his official social media pages, he shared photos of him with the Tard, describing how honored he was to have been next to him.
Seriously guys, I hope you never ever have to live with millions of braindead sheep. It is just unbearable.
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They do look like they are having a ton of fun!...?
You prefer to see all your beloved politicians shed crocodile tears for a full moon and stop living? Come on, you can find better arguments than analyzing selfies and taking words out of context.
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They do look like they are having a ton of fun!...?
You prefer to see all your beloved politicians shed crocodile tears for a full moon and stop living? Come on, you can find better arguments than analyzing selfies and taking words out of context.
If only I had the magical power to make you have to live in this hellhole like a regular citizen. You just don't seem to get it.
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If only I had the magical power to make you have to live in this hellhole like a regular citizen. You just don't seem to get it.
Butan,
Go look at hundreds of other things out there. Like their attempt to block twitter(is that still a thing?). Turkey used to be a democracy, now it's a lot like Russia, except without all the wealth and a shittier religion bordering it.
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Butan,
Go look at hundreds of other things out there. Like their attempt to block twitter(is that still a thing?). Turkey used to be a democracy, now it's a lot like Russia, except without all the wealth and a shittier religion bordering it.
Soon we'll compare turkland to North Korea rather than Russia
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You normally expect a politician to at least give that impression for the next 24 hours after something like this, yes. Not take fun-tastic selfies
Christ you've been obnoxious lately
He has been like this for a very long while. Whatever the case may be, his attitude is always "You silly! You are overreacting as usual. As far as I am concerned, everything is fine in your cotton candyland."
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This is why you should campaign to be the dictator of Turkey,
As a political leader you would automatically receive Butan's approval regardless of what you say or do.
It would be a daft lie, if I claimed not to have ever fantasized about stepping up as the new dictator and crushing the snackbarists. I am not a smooth operator like the Tard though. He spent years deceiving people. At some point, although he was a certified religious fanatic, he had managed to get support from left wingers, socialists, liberalists, lgbts and every group of people imaginable. The naivety was off the charts. They believed he was there to deliver change for the good regardless of his own personal beliefs. And look at him now. He managed to make use of that time to render himself almost untouchable.
I on the other hand, would so impatiently start exacting revenge that it wouldn't even take a month for me to get extracted.
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Dayum, I forgot to check this thread and the reactions are golden :mrgreen:
Being contradictory in a thread where anti-Tardogan racks up 100% of favorable opinion tend to make me sound pro-Erdogan, but its just that I find that you've been lazy in your arguments lately. You begin to sound like Oberyn on immigrants; even if in this analogy immigrants are evil, your article-long posts are based most on the time on literaly nothing. Here, a selfie and a couple words, where you build your own subjective context around.
I appreciate when you talk about your country with solid arguments, I learned a lot on Turkey thanks to you, but there is these times where I cringe when I read you. We know you hate your country and your president, its getting redundant and annoying sometimes, that is the depth of my feelings about it. Dont take me for a pro-Erdogan pls :cry: because I actually agree with you :o
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Being contradictory
is what you do on this forum.
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Dayum, I forgot to check this thread and the reactions are golden :mrgreen:
Being contradictory in a thread where anti-Tardogan racks up 100% of favorable opinion tend to make me sound pro-Erdogan, but its just that I find that you've been lazy in your arguments lately. You begin to sound like Oberyn on immigrants; even if in this analogy immigrants are evil, your article-long posts are based most on the time on literaly nothing. Here, a selfie and a couple words, where you build your own subjective context around.
I appreciate when you talk about your country with solid arguments, I learned a lot on Turkey thanks to you, but there is these times where I cringe when I read you. We know you hate your country and your president, its getting redundant and annoying sometimes, that is the depth of my feelings about it. Dont take me for a pro-Erdogan pls :cry: because I actually agree with you :o
That article-long post wasn't meant to bring to the table some really solid stuff. It's just a small story, a brief view. Of course it doesn't measure up to, say, the total destruction of secularity in Turkey. But I am bored and mad out of my mind. I need an outlet for stuff like this, which seems to be these forums at the moment. I just type this stuff for a cathartic effect. It's not like I am desperate for everyone's sympathy or confirmatory replies. Don't take it seriously for all I care. But you just push me off the edge of sanity when you drop such indifferent comments.
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Cool to see that you are aware of it. From without it looks like you are overly demonstrating your hate (even on a bad guy), something that for the reasons I mentioned tend to grind MY gears when people speak about political stuff from a position of authority, because you are in a position of authority in that thread.
At the moment you just seem to enjoy being contrary, more than usual.
Thats what you think because of Brexit thread I'm afraid.
No need to bring it here, no hard feelings. I'm contradictory because sometimes I dont share opinion of people, which feeds debate.
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The reason for the extraordinary rage towards a simple minister selfie or similiar stuff is that, they do it specifically and intentionally. Especially nowadays, they are trying to provoke people by debating about new projects about Gezi Park in İstanbul. It's just another part of their masterplan, they control their crowd by İslam and idealism, they control liberals by provocation. They use PKK and IS against opposing and now they're trying to get people on the streets, so they can make a massive move that people will never resist again. Bad part is it works perfectly by now.
Also anyone who still says PKK and IS aren't related with Turkish Gov is either plain stupid or an AKP fan.
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Turkey's population aren't "ethnic Turks". At all. They look nothing like Central Asians. The turkic tribes who conquered Anatolia were greatly outnumbered by the population they conquered.
Modern Turkish people are a mixture of various Anatolian ethnicities, Greeks, Arabs, Kurds, etc.
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Your point being?
I'll "be" you a point, Heskey Times.
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