Off Topic => General Off Topic => Topic started by: Xant on December 27, 2015, 08:38:53 pm
Title: Sicario
Post by: Xant on December 27, 2015, 08:38:53 pm
Best movie of 2015 by far. Pulls no punches, no Hollywood cop outs, avoids the usual clichés in regards to action scenes and female protagonists. 13/10.
Discuss.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on December 27, 2015, 08:40:22 pm
Wha...
I wasn't a fan actually.
Best movie 2015 was The Martian. At least of the films I can remember.
Maybe The Gift...
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Xant on December 27, 2015, 08:59:32 pm
Maybe if you're a homosexual.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: oerput on December 27, 2015, 09:11:51 pm
marsian was a disappointment. worst sci-fi movie of ridley scott. even worse than prometheus. matt damon didnt even lost weight properly. baloon of a film.
ill watch sicario tonight. directors previous films was great. im sure ill be pleased. i hope emily blunt gets raped in it
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Xant on December 27, 2015, 09:17:15 pm
She gets abused a lot.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on December 28, 2015, 12:01:25 am
I was rather disappointed. Kept waiting for something to happen that made it so great as critics claim. Cinematography was top notch and Benicio was superb, I love that guy. But other than that I felt there was something missing plot-wise or something interesting happening to Blunt. Maybe it was also a bit of a case of too high expectations.
Best movie 2015 for me was definitely Birdman.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Xant on December 28, 2015, 12:14:47 am
I was rather disappointed. Kept waiting for something to happen that made it so great as critics claim. Cinematography was top notch and Benicio was superb, I love that guy. But other than that I felt there was something missing plot-wise or something interesting happening to Blunt. Maybe it was also a bit of a case of too high expectations.
Best movie 2015 for me was definitely Birdman.
Sounds like it was a case of "expecting Hollywood cliches." It would've been gay if there was some megatwist with Blunt. The way they told the story, showing the audience more and more as Blunt's character gets glued in to what's really happening, was great. The plot was good -- the opposite of a 007 plot, yes, but that was the beauty of it. It has real world relevance, and it asks a question and makes a statement at the same time.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Vexus on December 28, 2015, 12:15:01 am
To me it seemed like it had one of those bland plots so I didn't bother watching it.
I guess, if you like action movies you might find it enjoyable.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Xant on December 28, 2015, 12:22:27 am
To me it seemed like it had one of those bland plots so I didn't bother watching it.
I guess, if you like action movies you might find it enjoyable.
You guess, even though you didn't watch it? If you had watched it, you'd know what a silly thing you just said. It's far from an action movie. If you go watch it waiting for an action move, that's when you'll be bored. Though the action in it is good.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Vexus on December 28, 2015, 12:35:12 am
"An idealistic FBI agent is enlisted by a government task force to aid in the escalating war against drugs at the border area between the U.S. and Mexico."
Just from reading that, to ME it doesn't seem like an engaging plot. That doesn't mean it's a bad movie but it doesn't interest me in the least bit.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Xant on December 28, 2015, 12:44:07 am
So because you don't find something interesting (based on a one sentence plot teaser) people might find it enjoyable if they like action movies? That doesn't make any sense.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: //saxon on December 28, 2015, 01:03:00 am
Watched it the day it released, very dark and tense.
Even the soundtracks :shock:
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Vexus on December 28, 2015, 01:09:01 am
I'm actually not the only one in this thread that didn't seem to see what's so special in this movie over the other thousand crime/drama/action ones. But feel free on replying to anyone disagreeing with your opinion.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Falka on December 28, 2015, 01:34:53 am
Haven't seen Sicario, but Birdman was a hell of a movie, loved it.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Asheram on December 28, 2015, 01:38:16 am
The Revenant was supposed to release in 2015 but full release was pushed to January 2016. It did however have a limited release on December 25th so I am casting my vote for it.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: LordBerenger on December 28, 2015, 01:58:57 am
So the female character is the opposite of what the femin.azi Mad Max movie was? Sounds good
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Kafein on December 28, 2015, 02:33:01 am
Sounds like it was a case of "expecting Hollywood cliches." It would've been gay if there was some megatwist with Blunt. The way they told the story, showing the audience more and more as Blunt's character gets glued in to what's really happening, was great. The plot was good -- the opposite of a 007 plot, yes, but that was the beauty of it. It has real world relevance, and it asks a question and makes a statement at the same time.
About the plot, how would rate it compared to Breaking Bad (in its entirety)?
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Jambi on December 28, 2015, 03:09:40 am
I'm actually not the only one in this thread that didn't seem to see what's so special in this movie over the other thousand crime/drama/action ones. But feel free on replying to anyone disagreeing with your opinion.
But you're the only who didn't even watch it. You can't say anything about a movie if you didn't see it, doesn't make any sense.
Sounds like it was a case of "expecting Hollywood cliches." It would've been gay if there was some megatwist with Blunt. The way they told the story, showing the audience more and more as Blunt's character gets glued in to what's really happening, was great. The plot was good -- the opposite of a 007 plot, yes, but that was the beauty of it. It has real world relevance, and it asks a question and makes a statement at the same time.
Nah, I'm not talking of some plot-twist. Can't quite put my finger on it, but I started watching and was thrilled by the great pictures, good music good acting and then about half-way through it felt something was missing. Maybe it was only some kind of reaction aside despair from Emilys char. But yeah, what is there to do for her? Probably will watch it again in some time, will see if like it better then.
I'm actually not the only one in this thread that didn't seem to see what's so special in this movie over the other thousand crime/drama/action ones. But feel free on replying to anyone disagreeing with your opinion.
You didn't even watch the movie. How the fuck would you know what is or isn't special about it? And that isn't even the point, the point is what you said is a complete logical non sequitur. "Oh, Star Wars' plot sounds boring to me. But you might enjoy it if you like romantic comedies, because everything that sounds boring to me is a romantic comedy."
Nah, I'm not talking of some plot-twist. Can't quite put my finger on it, but I started watching and was thrilled by the great pictures, good music good acting and then about half-way through it felt something was missing. Maybe it was only some kind of reaction aside despair from Emilys char. But yeah, what is there to do for her? Probably will watch it again in some time, will see if like it better then.
Emily's character is basically just a vehicle to get the viewer into the plot.
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Blunt plays a taking-no-shit government operative called on to assist an investigation to nail a drug lord. She our doppelganger, our stand-in, who ushers us in into the horror of real life, the horror that horror is necessary. Once we are assured of her street worthiness and credibility - and she's plenty badass - we are then introduced to the real star of the film...
It's one of the things I like about the movie, that it doesn't have unbelievable storyline turns where The Underestimated Female With No Experience Turns The Tables And Proves She's An Asset. She's a by-the-book FBI agent, and in her own world a competent and badass one. But where she's going, she pretty much IS a helpless spectator... and that's the point.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on December 28, 2015, 11:22:02 am
Btw did anyone see The Brand New Testament yet? A friend recommended it and it sounds it could be a lot fun... :D
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Vexus on December 28, 2015, 11:31:10 am
I checked out the trailer, found it having an overused plot nowadays with all these crime/drama/action movies and that's it. I didn't see the point in spending money watching it over other movies.
Why should I watch it if the trailer didn't engage me? You didn't say what makes the movie good other than it's the best movie of 2015 which is an opinion not a fact.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Xant on December 28, 2015, 11:43:09 am
I checked out the trailer, found it having an overused plot nowadays with all these crime/drama/action movies and that's it. I didn't see the point in spending money watching it over other movies.
Why should I watch it if the trailer didn't engage me? You didn't say what makes the movie good other than it's the best movie of 2015 which is an opinion not a fact.
What are you doing in this thread then? Scientists are baffled. Go post in some other topic that you haven't the faintest clue about, but pls not on SC thread about how making space ships isn't making the game.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Vexus on December 28, 2015, 11:54:55 am
What are you doing in this thread then? Scientists are baffled. Go post in some other topic that you haven't the faintest clue about, but pls not on SC thread about how making space ships isn't making the game.
So you can't come up with a good reason on why it's the best movie of 2015.
Good enough for me.
As for SC, yes it is still a dumb way that may (Will if it succeeds) make other developers ask people for money for boosts before the game even launches.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Xant on December 28, 2015, 12:14:13 pm
So you can't come up with a good reason on why it's the best movie of 2015.
Good enough for me.
Why would I want to convince you it's the best movie of 2015? That's a subjective statement, in the first place.... and in the second place, what do I care what you think? If you want reasons, go here. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sicario_2015/
As for SC, yes it is still a dumb way that may (Will if it succeeds) make other developers ask people for money for boosts before the game even launches.
lmao, literally the definition of crowdfunding
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Vexus on December 28, 2015, 12:42:13 pm
Maybe, just maybe, the point of creating a thread on a movie is to talk about it? Good and bad you know?
When you start a thread saying it's the best movie of 2015 and any post disagreeing with you, you mock them you clearly care.
Clearly crowd funding now means selling ingame advantages in advance for absurd prices, not about donating to help develop the game.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Kafein on December 28, 2015, 12:56:41 pm
Yeah but you can't talk about it because you haven't seen it! What is it about that you don't understand?
I didn't see what made this movie so special so I simply said that. The logical response would be to give a reason on why it's the best movie of 2015 and why should I give it a chance and watch it.
Did I really need to say that?
I'm not going to read a review of the movie before watching it. I even try to not watch a trailers nowadays due to spoilers but certain unknown movies require you to do so to know what's about. Tell me why it's good for you and maybe I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on December 28, 2015, 02:44:10 pm
I didn't see what made this movie so special so I simply said that. The logical response would be to give a reason on why it's the best movie of 2015 and why should I give it a chance and watch it.
No, you said you'd guess it might be for people who like action movies to which Xant replied that it is far from an action movie, which I can confirm.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Vexus on December 28, 2015, 03:22:55 pm
I didn't see what made this movie so special so I simply said that. The logical response would be to give a reason on why it's the best movie of 2015 and why should I give it a chance and watch it.
Xant said why he thinks it's the best movie in his opening post
"Pulls no punches, no Hollywood cop outs, avoids the usual clichés in regards to action scenes and female protagonists. 13/10."
It's really hard to give anything more specific without completely spoiling the story. And you really should not talk so much about a movie you don't have a clue about. Watch it and comment, because otherwise your input is pretty worthless on it (you're basing your opinion on a single line of text, a trailer and genre attached to it).
As for my input: liked the movie a lot. Very suspenseful soundtrack, which I loved. Main character is hard to relate to, feels even slightly too clueless at times, but I guess that's the point of the whole movie. Good story. I'd lay down with both Emily and Benicio though.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Xant on December 29, 2015, 11:47:52 am
As for my input: liked the movie a lot. Very suspenseful soundtrack, which I loved. Main character is hard to relate to, feels even slightly too clueless at times, but I guess that's the point of the whole movie. Good story. I'd lay down with both Emily and Benicio though.
The way it's shot is different from usual, though. Blunt isn't a main character like James Bond is the main character of Bond movies. Benicio kind of becomes the main character for the latter half of the movie, as well.
I liked the whole subtle cinematography with no underlining. The movie also expects you to do some thinking yourself, there are no big puzzles but it doesn't straight out come and say some things, you have to count 1+1+1=3.
Tactics/action was also done very well, they definitely used some former military consultant and actually listened to him.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Tibe on December 29, 2015, 12:37:21 pm
Xant said why he thinks it's the best movie in his opening post
"Pulls no punches, no Hollywood cop outs, avoids the usual clichés in regards to action scenes and female protagonists. 13/10."
That actually was the basic point of why it is good. Watched it too. It was pretty solid. Its extremely rare these days to see a movie thats not a massive clichefest. For some reason writers seem obligated to follow some kind of checklist. "empowering womanhood" check, "shitty, but obligatory romance" check. "some deep message to make dumb people feel smart" check, "point that friends/or family are good" check, "an unexpected shyamalan type of twist" check.
A movie avoiding all that in a big budget Hollywood film and have some kind of solid story is rare. The fact that I was more suprised that there wasnt a twist, than I would have been if there was one, clearly indicates that twists are no-longer really anyones thing because of overuse.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Xant on December 29, 2015, 01:00:55 pm
When those CIA guys made it clear to Blunt she's nothing but red tape and is really just in the way, I kept waiting for Blunt's character to pull a Hollywood cliché out of her butt, saving one of their lives or making a major breakthrough so that the CIA guys would go "omg, we were so wrong, you're part of the team *fist bump*"..... but didn't happen. So good. And it's so gay that something retarded NOT happening is a great thing in a movie these days.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Gravoth_iii on December 29, 2015, 04:54:03 pm
best movie 2015 is mad max
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Xant on December 29, 2015, 06:10:36 pm
When those CIA guys made it clear to Blunt she's nothing but red tape and is really just in the way, I kept waiting for Blunt's character to pull a Hollywood cliché out of her butt, saving one of their lives or making a major breakthrough so that the CIA guys would go "omg, we were so wrong, you're part of the team *fist bump*"..... but didn't happen. So good. And it's so gay that something retarded NOT happening is a great thing in a movie these days.
...and not a single superactionheromove. NIce to see that not all US movies dwell in their own buble of clichés.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Tibe on December 29, 2015, 07:57:08 pm
...and not a single superactionheromove. NIce to see that not all US movies dwell in their own buble of clichés.
Well.....Benicio was a little too badass imo. Mainly at the end. But he did have some help from the sky and it wasnt fancy explosions or anything like that, so it was passable.
Well.....Benicio was a little too badass imo. Mainly at the end. But he did have some help from the sky and it wasnt fancy explosions or anything like that, so it was passable.
None of the things he did were unbelievable in the slightest. Any competent shooter with good nerves could do the same. It's not like he went Max Payne on people, he had the element of surprise.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Falka on April 03, 2016, 11:07:30 pm
Awesome movie, few better I've seen in recent years. Though Birdman was the best movie of 2015.
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Post by: Taser on April 03, 2016, 11:10:23 pm
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Post by: ecorcheur_brokar on April 03, 2016, 11:55:18 pm
Saw "incendies" from the same scenarist, excellent movie! Two kids living in Canada trying to figure out the past life of their mother during the lebanese war after she died. It has actions but in the same time is quite moving.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Asheram on December 21, 2017, 12:54:47 am
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Post by: Vibe on December 21, 2017, 08:56:49 am
Oh boy sequels. Well, we'll see.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Lord_Carlos on December 21, 2017, 09:53:03 am
Watch the Raid thats a movie :wink:
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Xant on December 21, 2017, 11:52:50 am
A bad movie, yes.
Title: Re: Sicario
Post by: Lord_Carlos on December 21, 2017, 12:40:24 pm