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Title: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Asheram on November 08, 2015, 06:08:13 am
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Post by: Molly on November 08, 2015, 10:14:22 am
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Post by: LordBerenger on November 08, 2015, 11:45:10 am
As long as they keep including awesome soundtracks like these ones I'll buy it.



The Mass Effect series, Deus Ex, Fallout and GTA are probably the only games that I wouldn't even hesitate to buy without watching reviews.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Fips on November 08, 2015, 06:20:11 pm
Still incredibly disappointed the way they ended the trilogy, but the ride has been wonderful. No clue, though, what that farewell from Shepard is doing in Andromeda if it's gonna take place in a entirely different galaxy. And if it's in the Milky Way, how teh fuck are they gonna implement what happened in the trilogy without destroying 3 of the 4 endings.

Anyway, played through ME three times now (And oddly always making the same choices, as in, i just couldn't get myself to become a renegade most of the times even if i pushed myself to do it) and probably will do it again before Andromeda, so super excited that there's gonna be another one.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Asheram on June 13, 2016, 05:20:13 am
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Post by: Leshma on June 13, 2016, 05:40:47 am
Kewl but this should come out Q1/2017 and be hella big and revolutionary yet all they have to show is behind the scenes early design phase with some canned video. Where is gameplay, talk about new features?

Probably saving for one true gaming fair, not flashy shit show about peasant boxes.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 13, 2016, 07:18:08 pm
Ok slightly hyped for this. I loved Mass Effect. Despite the shitty ending they were still great games. Looking forward to seeing more of it.

I'd like them to change up the combat for sure. Break from the shitty cover based crap.
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Post by: Butan on June 13, 2016, 08:37:21 pm
Ok slightly hyped for this. I loved Mass Effect. Despite the shitty ending they were still great games. Looking forward to seeing more of it.

I'd like them to change up the combat for sure. Break from the shitty cover based crap.

Gunfights without cover as a major element? I dont see this happening... unless we think of an alternative way to avoid bullets  :P
Sci-fi armors and shields already serve as temporary gameplay-booster (you can continue aiming and firing without being dead), and psychic powers add a couple available strategy.

There is simply not much else to do, except add a couple layers on top of what is existent, and tinker some variables (like they did from ME1 to ME2 where we removed sci-fi infinite ammo overheat and replaced with standard magazines to amplify action).

There is probably a few tweaks that could be done to give a more fluid combat system, like how they changed the combat from Witcher 1 to 2 to 3... But to break from the now classic cover based system, we are going to need a lot of innovation. Cant wait to see a bright mind think of something, but until then I cant even imagine what it could be?
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Ikarus on June 13, 2016, 10:44:15 pm
I will never forgive them for (warning actual spoiler)
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nevertheless, ME2 was an awesome game, loved that part the most
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Post by: [ptx] on June 13, 2016, 11:21:42 pm
What? People actually liked the change from ME1 infinite ammo to ME2 very limited ammo? That's one of the things i hated the most about ME2-3...
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Post by: Butan on June 13, 2016, 11:32:12 pm
I personaly appreciated the infinite ammo in the lore way (backed by science-fiction), but I really prefer the visceral reloading mechanic.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Leshma on June 14, 2016, 01:50:36 am
This should be no ordinary Mass Effect, TPS shooter lite cRPG with multiple choices kind of single player game. Should be SWTOR on steroids.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Taser on June 14, 2016, 04:52:14 am
I personaly appreciated the infinite ammo in the lore way (backed by science-fiction), but I really prefer the visceral reloading mechanic.

I did too. Was quite the surprise going from the first to the second one with limited ammo.

I was trying to figure out what happened to all the guns with infinite ammo from the first game. Was there a ban? Then where's the black market because fuck me I want them back.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 14, 2016, 08:03:36 am
I did too. Was quite the surprise going from the first to the second one with limited ammo.

I was trying to figure out what happened to all the guns with infinite ammo from the first game. Was there a ban? Then where's the black market because fuck me I want them back.

I thought there was a lore explained reason for the removal of unlimited ammo guns.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: [ptx] on June 14, 2016, 08:54:26 am
Yes, the lore reason was "limited ammo is better than unlimited ammo". Herp a derp.
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Post by: Polobow on June 14, 2016, 07:09:20 pm
I will never forgive them for (warning actual spoiler)
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nevertheless, ME2 was an awesome game, loved that part the most

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Post by: Xant on June 14, 2016, 09:00:04 pm
This should be no ordinary Mass Effect, TPS shooter lite cRPG with multiple choices kind of single player game. Should be SWTOR on steroids.
Must you get burned again, Leshma-chan?
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Asheram on September 08, 2016, 08:38:13 pm
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: LordBerenger on September 09, 2016, 03:45:32 pm

Ugly Asari though. Not sure how I feel about this possible new threat ''Remnants'' or whatever they're called.

Wonder how long after ME3 this game takes place.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Leshma on March 20, 2017, 04:40:10 pm
Gamespot slapped 6/10 on it. Must be a good game then.

Actually I think it is truly decent video game, in same way Dragon Age Inquisition is. Curse me and my heightened expectations from modern video games that stop me from enjoying decently crafted digital experiences.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: njames89 on March 20, 2017, 05:29:57 pm
This game is a meme
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Asheram on March 20, 2017, 06:31:53 pm
I heard good things from those who played the early release last night.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: njames89 on March 20, 2017, 07:04:59 pm
Some of the interactions are so bad that they had me laughing hysterically. Might be fun to play kind of in the same way some horrible movies can actually be entertaining.

Might be the game equivalent of The Room.

Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Xant on March 20, 2017, 08:51:19 pm

[–]vivere_aut_mori 3 points 6 minutes ago
Got to play the trial for a few hours, because the reviews made me curious as to just how bad it could be.
I'll be blunt: I don't like it. I don't like it at all. Mass Effect was like a mid-level of braininess sci-fi series that you got to actually shape yourself. It was full of the usual sci-fi cliches (the alien women just mysteriously happen to be bipedal humanoids with voluptuous bosoms, wide hips, and plump glutes), but at the same time, it broke just about every trend in gaming at the time. It gave you options. Sometimes, you just couldn't win. It had weight to it in a way that almost no other game had before -- or since.
ME:A feels like the bad guy in the first Men in Black movie. You know, the cockroach thing that eats the dude and stuffs himself in the skin, hobbling around and doing a shitty job at impersonating a human? That's what this feels like. There is none of the weight behind this game that there was in the original Mass Effect. I didn't have the same sense of discovery, of nagging curiosity at just why all these ancient civilizations crumbled, at what it would be like to actually meet aliens and be a part of this society where you're the bottom man on the totem pole. I didn't find novel game concepts.
I found myself bored.
It's "inquisition and far cry had a baby, who then had a baby with just cause, who then had an incestuous child with mass effect 3's half-brother." It just feels...hollow. Fetch quest after fetch quest, eye-rollingly simple, tired, and sophomoric dialogue that holds your hand like you're 5 and incapable of understanding context whatsoever, and yes, the animation. Sorry, but Mass Effect 1 had animation that made those characters feel real. In hindsight, it doesn't hold up, but at the time? At the time, ME1 had some of the best damn graphics we had seen. It's what helped you think of those batches of polygons and lines of 1s and 0s as people that you cared about. As much as I despise the modern gaming industry's love affair with graphics, animation is always important. I don't care if the world is not photo-realistic. I just want the people to resemble human beings. I also want the script to resemble human interaction, and it just doesn't. Not at all.
The combat is good, I guess, but if I want run-n-gun acrobatics, I'd go play Titanfall or CoD. The enemies are too bulletspongey, the many of the powers feel way too similar, and the enemies feel so cliche. I felt like I was playing Star Trek: Into Darkness instead of Mass Effect.
My take is the same as it was this morning when reviews broke: wait until it goes on sale in 4-6 months. It needs serious patching anyways to fix the braindead AI and, hopefully, fix some of the facial animation. The voice acting, though, is set in stone. That's where it really falls through. You can almost hear the sound producer say "cut" in between the lines of dialogue. It's sanitary, devoid of that conversational tone you felt when hearing Joker and Garrus trade jokes, or the two engineers talking shop down in the engine bay. You can hear the individual lines, and it's...it's bad. Skyrim mods like Helgen Reborn and Falskaar have better (or equivalent) voice acting, and that's done by total amateurs who recorded in their basements. This is a bargain-bin game for people who found the mass effect series to get worse as it went on due to the loss of RPG elements and the hyper-focus on "action elements." It's a cookie-cutter open world game that is 10 miles wide, but an inch deep, and it really bums me out.
I was hoping that all the anti-hype was clickbait.
It wasn't.


Sounds about right
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: IR_Kuoin on March 21, 2017, 12:54:41 am
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 21, 2017, 12:57:43 am
I almost want to play the trash on the basis of laughing at shitty animations alone. Ive never played any of the ME games, and i probably never will, but this is the first time i kind of want to try it out but probably through pirating if so.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Kadeth on March 21, 2017, 01:11:49 am
come on guys

real people are ugly too, so all video game characters should look cringeworthy and have terrible animations and lip-syncing, it's more realistic
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 21, 2017, 01:23:12 am
come on guys

real people are ugly too, so all video game characters should look cringeworthy and have terrible animations and lip-syncing, it's more realistic

Real people dont have unrealistic animations though, uncanny valley'ish feel from these ones. Just like in the latest star wars movie with the animated character.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Kadeth on March 21, 2017, 01:36:40 am
Real people dont have unrealistic animations though

some do, like the animation when i flex my muscles

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Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: banned123 on March 21, 2017, 02:29:37 am
Andromeda is a good game if you take it independently of the Mass Effect series, as an extension of them it seems worse than 2/3 so far in most ways, but i've only played the 10hour trial so who knows it might improve the parts that seem like a step backwards (The combat is nicer though). The criticism of animations and etc is hugely pedantic from people looking for an excuse to be angry, bioware games (and most rpg games for that matter) often have buggy/bad animations.. they don't interfere with enjoyment unless you're unrealistically picky about things.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Ikarus on March 21, 2017, 09:37:48 am
The criticism of animations and etc is hugely pedantic from people looking for an excuse to be angry, bioware games (and most rpg games for that matter) often have buggy/bad animations.. they don't interfere with enjoyment unless you're unrealistically picky about things.
When a game is mostly based on conversations, you can expect at least a LITTLE bit of effort in 2017 when it comes to facial animation, a lazy stroll in the Uncanny Valley like this has a huge negative impact on the game itself

13 years ago it was possible aswell, you don´t need complex rigs to do that, just a couple of blendshapes and a handful of functions to make that magic happen, voila
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People tend to be overly picky when it comes to video games, true, but this time it is justified.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Molly on March 21, 2017, 09:58:55 am
Played the trial and animations are god awful, faces look shit, character editor is awful and a huge step back compared to Inquisition.
Combat is the best of the series yet. But ME combat has always been something you enjoy or you don't without middle ground.

I'll play it cuz I really like the universe.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Xant on March 21, 2017, 01:43:21 pm
Andromeda is a good game if you take it independently of the Mass Effect series, as an extension of them it seems worse than 2/3 so far in most ways, but i've only played the 10hour trial so who knows it might improve the parts that seem like a step backwards (The combat is nicer though). The criticism of animations and etc is hugely pedantic from people looking for an excuse to be angry, bioware games (and most rpg games for that matter) often have buggy/bad animations.. they don't interfere with enjoyment unless you're unrealistically picky about things.
Complaining about horrible animations and voice acting in a RPG game isn't "nitpicking." If you just want to play a Halo-esque shooter, sure, you might not care, but ME fans care about the RPG elements, and seeing someone smile and roll their eyes 20 times in two seconds while remarking in a happy voice that their family is dead is somewhat, uhm, bad.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Xant on March 21, 2017, 01:44:27 pm
Shermos
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This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Quick recommendation: Don't buy. Not worthwhile for new players, and an insult to the original Mass Effect trilogy, even with its flaws.

Firstly, I want to disclose that I am a long time fan of the Mass Effect universe. I was not happy with the idea of moving the setting to the Andromeda galaxy, throwing away a rich setting and wonderful characters which had been built up over years. A good justification was needed to win me over. I couldn't see it.

Mass Effect Andromeda had five years of development time. The resulting game is something I would be embarrassed to sell with my name attached to it. Most people by now will be aware with the problems with facial and general animation. The game also appears to have a lot of other bugs at the time of release. It is not clear how many will be fixed by patches. This is only the beginning of the game's problems.

The premise for Andromeda does not make sense. We are told the trip from the Milky Way took over 600 years. This is too long even when using cryo sleep. People who stayed at home would continue to advance technologically and develop faster, more efficient faster than light travel. They could make the trip in a fraction of the time, and have already set up a new civilisation by the time the original expedition arrives. This isn't a good start for a game in the sci-fi genre, and the failures of logic and reason get worse.

Bioware is known for telling good stories and creating excellent characters. It failed considerably on both counts. The main storyline is extremely generic. It adds to a feeling that the game is based on badly thought up and written fan fiction. Worse, we are not given enough reason to care about the characters at our sides. The worst examples being the protagonist's father and main antagonist. We meet the father at the start of the game knowing nothing about him. He dies in the very first mission without the game giving us any reason to care about his loss. He had the protagonists job of "pathfinder" already occupied, and he had to be removed. Why not make his death occur later in the game, or else make the protagonist be in charge in the first place? You don't make someone so important die until the character has had enough time to develop. That brings me to the antagonist. He is the big bad, with no depth whatsoever. He only seems to exist to be in the player's way, and we can't reason with him. Not even an alien from another galaxy should be evil for the sake of being evil and incapable of reaching an accommodation with the protagonist. The first time we meet his people, shooting begins immediately, and the player is not even given the choice to try to negotiate.

The dialogue is awful to the point of being unintentionally funny. Voice acting is not much better, although I don't fault the voice actors for this. They had to work with terrible writing, and it seems as though they aren't able to get a feel for the setting and context their dialogue was being delivered in.

Combat is the game's only redeeming feature. People who enjoy shoot 'em up games will probably enjoy this component and the multiplayer section. That said, it is not ground breaking, and the AI enemy is average at best. Squad mate AI in the single player section is terrible. The developers somehow managed to make it worse than it was in the original trilogy. I wanted to shoot one of my "Companions" to save the enemy the trouble, but the game wouldn't let me do so.

The following point will matter to long time fans of the Mass Effect series. Andromeda gives the big FU to the established lore from the original trilogy. The trip to a new galaxy should not be possible with the technology available at the time the sleeper ships are supposed to have been built. Only a hand wavy explanation is provided. The expedition members seem have access to technology which didn't exist in the original games. This wouldn't be an issue if the expedition left after the events of Mass Effect 3, where we could expect technical advancements to have taken place, even in the aftermath of the Reaper war.

Bioware wanted to move the setting to Andromeda, and have the expedition leave before ME3 to avoid dealing with the consequences of the ending choice of the trilogy. We were told they especially didn't want to choose a canon decision. The new game renders this change of setting pointless. One of the choices was synthesis between organic beings and artificial intelligence, a choice which was very unpopular with the vast majority of the fan base. We learn that everyone in the Andromeda expedition has been physically linked to an AI called SAM. Nevermind that AI research was considered highly illegal in the original trilogy. This is a huge slap in the face to the fan base. A canon choice appears to have been chosen anyway, so why bother with the setting change? Why throw away so many characters and places we love?
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 21, 2017, 02:26:54 pm
Sequels are trash and dumb to smoke. Never buy sequels on launch, at least now we got the bad news beforehand.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: njames89 on March 21, 2017, 02:36:08 pm
It looks like such a colossal trainwreck. It's as if they never tried their own game.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Molly on March 21, 2017, 02:48:40 pm
Tbh, looking around it seems by now more like the typical internet shitstorm than actual critics about the game.
It ain't great but what I played wasn't a 'trainwreck' or totally shit either.
Granted, the trial does not allow much of an insight...
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: njames89 on March 21, 2017, 02:54:57 pm
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Xant on March 21, 2017, 05:57:11 pm
Nice, the voice acting, writing and animations are all shit. An impressive achievement for an AAA title.

What pisses me off the most is that Bioware had so much potential, a lot of great, thoughtful games... and now they're just another Ubisoft/Activision. Just with less quality.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Leshma on March 21, 2017, 07:31:37 pm
TB says this game was outsourced and not done by what was left of Bioware.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Molly on March 21, 2017, 08:26:23 pm
Nice, the voice acting, writing and animations are all shit. An impressive achievement for an AAA title.

What pisses me off the most is that Bioware had so much potential, a lot of great, thoughtful games... and now they're just another Ubisoft/Activision. Just with less quality.
What so fucking stupid about that exact example is that the writer obviously realized how shit and cringworthy the dialogue is... why else would they put the "Kill me now" in?
But instead of rewriting it in a proper way, they left it in and made some shitty comical remark? Like, what the serious fuck?!
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: IR_Kuoin on March 21, 2017, 08:41:19 pm
That clip hurts to watch. Did some loser straight out of college write that?
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Post by: Gurgumul on March 22, 2017, 12:41:42 am
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Post by: IR_Kuoin on March 26, 2017, 11:05:30 pm
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 27, 2017, 12:35:46 am

Been waiting for Crowbcat to do a video on this catastrophe, he is the highlight of gaming right now.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: IR_Kuoin on March 27, 2017, 12:53:01 am
Been waiting for Crowbcat to do a video on this catastrophe, he is the highlight of gaming right now.

He always delivers, it's great. Can at least enjoy the sour apple somewhat that way.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Molly on March 27, 2017, 08:34:10 am
It ain't that bad actually. Enjoying it quite a lot tbh.
If you can ignore the once in a while slip in facial animations and a stupid dialogue line here and there, the voice acting is really good tbh.
At least the English one, I've heard the German sync and it is bloody awful D:

And combat is fun - I can't say otherwise.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 27, 2017, 01:39:08 pm
It ain't that bad actually. Enjoying it quite a lot tbh.
If you can ignore the once in a while slip in facial animations and a stupid dialogue line here and there, the voice acting is really good tbh.
At least the English one, I've heard the German sync and it is bloody awful D:

And combat is fun - I can't say otherwise.

Ive seen a lot of terrible voice acting and horrible writing in it already. It really is like a bad-funny B movie.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Molly on March 27, 2017, 02:37:24 pm
Ive played about 18h now and it is not as bad as 10min youtube videos make it out to be - sorry to disappoint.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 27, 2017, 02:42:43 pm
Ive played about 18h now and it is not as bad as 10min youtube videos make it out to be - sorry to disappoint.

Damn, and i got my hopes up that it might be my first ME game.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: LordBerenger on March 27, 2017, 03:21:38 pm
It ain't that bad actually. Enjoying it quite a lot tbh.
If you can ignore the once in a while slip in facial animations and a stupid dialogue line here and there, the voice acting is really good tbh.
At least the English one, I've heard the German sync and it is bloody awful D:

And combat is fun - I can't say otherwise.

Heard it's basically fuck the dialogue, fuck the characters + animation and fuck the story but otherwise the graphics & gameplay overall is solid.

Worse than ME1-2-3 though I'll guess?
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Molly on March 27, 2017, 04:54:25 pm
meh... ME2 was really really bad tbh, especially on release. So I'd say it's better than that.
ME1 is so completely different, I wouldn't even compare the two - ME1 not even with ME3 really which certainly was the best part apart from the ending.

I'd say from mediocre to good ME2, MEA, (ME1,) ME3. Reason for me to consider MEA over ME2 is the really fun combat. Dynamic, fast-paced and equipment/crafting can make a meaningful difference w/o making it imba. AI consists of flanking, sniping and outnumbering which isn't brilliant but solid.

Damn, and i got my hopes up that it might be my first ME game.
I'd say 'don't bother' if you're not a Mass Effect lore/universe fan.
It is a mediocre game for anyone who does not like Mass Effect as a brand. Only enjoyable thing then is the combat and that is not enough to carry it.
Wait for the discounted GOTY in 18 months :wink:
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: LordBerenger on March 27, 2017, 05:12:27 pm
meh... ME2 was really really bad tbh, especially on release. So I'd say it's better than that.
ME1 is so completely different, I wouldn't even compare the two - ME1 not even with ME3 really which certainly was the best part apart from the ending.

I'd say from mediocre to good ME2, MEA, (ME1,) ME3. Reason for me to consider MEA over ME2 is the really fun combat. Dynamic, fast-paced and equipment/crafting can make a meaningful difference w/o making it imba. AI consists of flanking, sniping and outnumbering which isn't brilliant but solid.
I'd say 'don't bother' if you're not a Mass Effect lore/universe fan.
It is a mediocre game for anyone who does not like Mass Effect as a brand. Only enjoyable thing then is the combat and that is not enough to carry it.
Wait for the discounted GOTY in 18 months :wink:

Never played MEA but ranking the original ones I'd say ME2 > ME 1 > ME3

So seems we got completely different opinions there lol.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Xant on March 27, 2017, 07:38:22 pm
I mean, Molly thinks ME2 was really bad, that should say enough about how much his opinion on Andromeda is worth to anyone who liked the series or RPG games in general. ME2 is objectively one of the best RPG games made.

It's not just about crappy animations and bad dialogue now and then, the writing is over all horrible and the protagonist in particular is as bland as they come.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Molly on March 27, 2017, 08:31:31 pm
Storywise ME2 was the worst - what the fuck you're talking about?

It started a dozen plots and finished none of them.
Here I was thinking you're a smart lad...
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Xant on March 27, 2017, 08:44:07 pm
ME2 was the worst storywise? Tell me this is parody. But, yes, I believe that quite amply demonstrates why your word about Andromeda "not being that bad" means nothing.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: IR_Kuoin on March 27, 2017, 09:31:23 pm
Isn't it universally agreed upon among the fans that ME2 was the best? Never seen a statement that says otherwise, well until now ofc.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Xant on March 27, 2017, 09:57:13 pm
Isn't it universally agreed upon among the fans that ME2 was the best? Never seen a statement that says otherwise, well until now ofc.
Yep, never thought I'd see the day that someone called ME2 awful and worst of the series. It also has the highest review scores.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Leshma on March 28, 2017, 01:36:11 am
I've outgrown Kotor. Mass Effect is more of the same, but with action combat instead of tactical, turn based combat.
Kinda dislike typical Bioware characters and I've seen their narrative twist enough times that is becomes boring. Never finished Dragon Age Origins, second and third never wanted to try. Because those characters, their 'witty' lines and story twisting predictably started getting on my nerves. When I think about, every Bioware game I've ever played has weak combat for its time. So gameplay can't be the reason to keep playing their games.

I have watched this game, combat is basically shooting with some weird space rifle, jumping and shooting with that rifle. But it's like in RPG, every move is specific. Not true action gameplay. For example when you jump it seems like some kind of jetpack is activating. When you activate it motion captured animation played which is always the same but you can move around with it. But it always jumps the same distance, it's not like jetpack in Tribes games for example where some rudimentary physics is present. Basically that's what makes gameplay boring, limited ways of playing due to preconfigured and stiff animations and complete absence of physics. What's funny, Zelda that was made for WiiU (shit specs) has ton of physics simulation (well rudimentary) while games like Andromeda and Horizon have none.

Story and dialogue are painful to listen to, but Molly is used to hanging around Krems so I guess he's used to it.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Xant on March 28, 2017, 06:33:22 am
Yes, I don't understand why it's so hard to make actual fun combat in RPG games. Instead almost all of them have RPG-y combat with bullet/sword sponge enemies.

A TES game with Dark Messiah style combat would be so frigging fun.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Molly on March 28, 2017, 09:00:59 am
Out of curiosity, how many actually played MEA and who relies on pre-manufactured opinions out of youtube videos displaying the worst 10min out of a 30-60h game?
You do realise that every single conversation line is voiced? Any idea how much voice that is overall?
And here you are frowning all those dozens of hours over some youtube snippets?

If that is the way you base your opinion on something in general, nothing ever written in this forum will ever surprise me again tbh.

And funny to me is that I am even admitting that it is mediocre, yet that is conveniently ignored.
And I stand by it: ME2 is worse than ME3 story-wise cuz they finish barely any plot apart from the fetch'n grab parts. It was by all means just a filler game in the trilogy. Only reason most consider ME3 worse is because they didn't like the ending and can't get over it. Yet, up till said ending, the game itself was way better than ME2 imho.

And lol for bringing review scores into this. All the time you guys flame reviews for being bullshit, too high and whatnot but all of the sudden it fits your narrative and it is good enough as an argument?
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Ikarus on March 28, 2017, 09:41:22 am
Out of curiosity, how many actually played MEA and who relies on opinions
that´s what reviews and tests are for, you read them before you buy a game and yes, there are plenty of negative voice outside of the youtube comment section aswell, not just the regular bashing-train most people like to hop on. Yes, the game is mediocre, but it really shouldn´t be. It´s a huge step down from its past quality, at least animation- and storywise

You do realise that every single conversation line is voiced?
quantity doesn´t beat quality here, it´s not as if it´s the first game doing that. The problem is that they´re way below their own standards

ME2 is worse than ME3 story-wise
that´s like, your opinion, mang

nothing ever written in this forum will ever surprise me again tbh
it surprises me more how bitter and angry you´ve grown since the crash of OKAM. Tbh, I liked pre-OKAM Molly better :?
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Molly on March 28, 2017, 10:13:03 am
Angry and bitter?
I am bored at work and this forum is nearly as dead as the OKAM one. Someone has to provide somehow drama...

Xant is a shadow of his former self, Leshma is mainstream now, Panos is nowhere to be seen and you suddenly became the most boring of them all, trying to desperately mediate everywhere everything. STAHP IT!

The only one who lives up to expectations once in a while is Oberyn and even he retreats quite early as of late. Heskey is doing as much as he can but it is just not enough. :(

Towards all the other points:
You basically repeat everything I already admitted to. Did you even read the thread? -.-
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Vibe on March 28, 2017, 11:16:44 am
can't be worse than OKAM tho rite 8-)
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Molly on March 28, 2017, 11:50:07 am
can't be worse than OKAM tho rite 8-)
That I can wholeheartedly agree with...

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Edit: this for example was a really good fight - the game has its moments...

...it's a boss from a side quest.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 28, 2017, 04:23:26 pm
That I can wholeheartedly agree with...

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Edit: this for example was a really good fight - the game has its moments...

...it's a boss from a side quest.

Thats a really good fight? hm
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Leshma on March 28, 2017, 04:40:50 pm
Edit: this for example was a really good fight - the game has its moments...

The only good thing about that fight is the giant monster which is completely wasted. Giants boss fights always look better because of size difference but this is an example of everything that's bad about it.

You can go two routes when designing giant boss fight.

First is realistic, what I call tactical way. With such approach there is no way you'd shoot weak ass lasers for fifteen minutes at immovable monster until you drop its HP to the ground (HP bar and realism don't go well together). What you'd do if this was real life situation. Mostly lose because that monster would try to crush you, unless it is trying to intimidate you, for you to leave it alone. In that case most sensible would be to avoid the creature. If you must annihilate it, then you'll need some serious firepower. Missile launchers, mini nukes, good old Japanese mecha suit to fight it on equal terms.

If you want stylish, less realistic battle then you'll fly around it with your crew, chop at it from different angles trying to immobilize it by severing important connections on its large body. You know, like that Mickey Mouse versus giant cartoon. Or like in most cartoons and anime where few little ones are fighting huge monster (Attack on Titan comes to mind). But in order to do that you need to be able to freely fly around with a jetpack, to employ adequate weaponry for said fight, to communicate and give orders to smart AI. None of that is possible in this game from what I've seen.

Edit: Exactly the same boss fight you get at the end of Borderlands. Shoot at tentacles until they lose HP then magically explode, leaving monster vulnerable to regular attacks. This shit exist since arcade shooters. I must say Borderlands was good up at that point, didn't like it as much after that boss fight. Only boss that left worse taste after I finished the game is that one in Risen at the very end. That was Nintendo grade boss fight with moving platforms and shit.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: LordBerenger on March 28, 2017, 06:31:33 pm
Lol


Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Xant on March 28, 2017, 09:10:14 pm
The only good thing about that fight is the giant monster which is completely wasted. Giants boss fights always look better because of size difference but this is an example of everything that's bad about it.

You can go two routes when designing giant boss fight.

First is realistic, what I call tactical way. With such approach there is no way you'd shoot weak ass lasers for fifteen minutes at immovable monster until you drop its HP to the ground (HP bar and realism don't go well together). What you'd do if this was real life situation. Mostly lose because that monster would try to crush you, unless it is trying to intimidate you, for you to leave it alone. In that case most sensible would be to avoid the creature. If you must annihilate it, then you'll need some serious firepower. Missile launchers, mini nukes, good old Japanese mecha suit to fight it on equal terms.

If you want stylish, less realistic battle then you'll fly around it with your crew, chop at it from different angles trying to immobilize it by severing important connections on its large body. You know, like that Mickey Mouse versus giant cartoon. Or like in most cartoons and anime where few little ones are fighting huge monster (Attack on Titan comes to mind). But in order to do that you need to be able to freely fly around with a jetpack, to employ adequate weaponry for said fight, to communicate and give orders to smart AI. None of that is possible in this game from what I've seen.

Edit: Exactly the same boss fight you get at the end of Borderlands. Shoot at tentacles until they lose HP then magically explode, leaving monster vulnerable to regular attacks. This shit exist since arcade shooters. I must say Borderlands was good up at that point, didn't like it as much after that boss fight. Only boss that left worse taste after I finished the game is that one in Risen at the very end. That was Nintendo grade boss fight with moving platforms and shit.
Witcher did giant boss fights pretty well.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Xant on March 29, 2017, 04:39:06 am
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Ikarus on March 29, 2017, 04:47:13 am
mh, good shit. Gorillaz may be weird from time to time, but they surely deliver some good stuff here and there
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Xant on April 01, 2017, 08:51:23 am
https://youtu.be/jDit1WO12fs?t=93


Fucking LOL.

Also featuring: yet more horrible, horrible writing, and completely fucked up pacing+voice acting.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Vibe on April 01, 2017, 01:04:05 pm
lmao i saw that clip with the player almost dying of laughing in the background

oh yeah its actually in this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KWkao73HuU&t=11m40s
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Ikarus on April 02, 2017, 07:10:12 pm
https://youtu.be/jDit1WO12fs?t=93

Fucking LOL.

Also featuring: yet more horrible, horrible writing, and completely fucked up pacing+voice acting.

1:44 so we got a stereotypically gay, lisping krogan who slaps another krogan in an physically unnatural way, until his opponent falls onto the floor like a weightless puppet

game of the year
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Laufknoten on April 02, 2017, 10:59:30 pm
Why did they pick a stereotypical, lisping gay dude to voice act an imposing, reptilian alien warlord? Is this shit even for real?
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: IR_Kuoin on April 02, 2017, 11:31:38 pm
Why did they pick a stereotypical, lisping gay dude to voice act an imposing, reptilian alien warlord? Is this shit even for real?

He sucked dick to get the voice acting role.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Gurgumul on April 02, 2017, 11:46:50 pm
Mass Effect had a really gripping story, full of mysteries and stuff to discover. It felt like you were on an important, but secret mission to save the world (cliche, but pulled off 11/11), and your choices really mattered. Also the world was really well made too - various interesting worlds and species that made sense, realistic political drama and all that. Combat was a bit repetitive and got boring quickly, especially if you didn't care enough to play on the more difficult settings, with your crew automatically using skills. Weapons and armour were all practically the same, just with slightly different stats. Overall it was one of those games you played for the story and immersive world.

Mass Effect 2 had much improved combat, more diverse weapons, armour and abilities. Bits of enemies could be shot off and the combat was just way more tactical and fun in general. The world was about as good as in ME1, except that you've already seen it all. But the story sucked - it was all about "collect your crew and win the boss fight". You didn't really discover anything new about the main plot, it was all known from the very beginning - bad aliens are coming and you have to stop them. The only "story" to discover was the less important back stories of your crew members. There was only a single story quest - save the world - available practically from the beginning. You only had to do side quests focused around your crew members, not around the actual main story.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Molly on April 03, 2017, 07:58:46 am
[...]
But the story sucked - it was all about "collect your crew and win the boss fight". You didn't really discover anything new about the main plot, it was all known from the very beginning - bad aliens are coming and you have to stop them. The only "story" to discover was the less important back stories of your crew members. There was only a single story quest - save the world - available practically from the beginning. You only had to do side quests focused around your crew members, not around the actual main story.
Thank you!
Finally someone gets it. It was just a filler.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Leshma on April 06, 2017, 04:10:42 pm
https://waa.ai/jr97
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Xant on April 06, 2017, 04:31:21 pm
https://waa.ai/jr97
You just can't win with those people. Bioware's gone to shit. Everything about them is awful these days, from graphics to animation to writing to voice acting to the rampant SJW catering/propaganda.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: IR_Kuoin on April 06, 2017, 05:02:12 pm
Pandering to people who won't buy your games / or play games at all, always works out.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Molly on April 06, 2017, 05:08:03 pm
Last thing I read was that Bioware didn't do the animations but outsourced it to EA Bukarest...
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Xant on April 06, 2017, 06:08:28 pm
I might play it if I was blind, deaf and retarded
You're one third way there! Keep on keeping on, who knows, you might get there soon.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Molly on April 06, 2017, 06:36:35 pm
There was a patch today.
They certainly did something to the face shaders. Faces have actual textures now. They seem more lively too, different eyes?
 
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Xant on April 06, 2017, 08:29:28 pm
There was a patch today.
They certainly did something to the face shaders. Faces have actual textures now. They seem more lively too, different eyes?
Yeah but, does the transgender tell his/her/its/xits transition story even if it isn't your friend??
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Molly on April 07, 2017, 08:02:38 am
I ran into... it... and was like "meh... stoooopid!" and moved on *shrugs*

Edit: Actually my first reaction was "Wait... did she just say that she was a man?" followed by a "wtf?" and then the above happened.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Vibe on April 07, 2017, 09:56:14 am
i just can't get over that mean looking absurdly gay sounding alien :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Asheram on April 07, 2017, 08:36:18 pm
You're one third way there! Keep on keeping on, who knows, you might get there soon.
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Post by: Xant on April 07, 2017, 11:43:24 pm
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Post by: Molly on April 08, 2017, 09:06:54 am
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...gotta be a fake D:
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Post by: Leshma on April 08, 2017, 03:35:17 pm
Fake or not, image search that started with that picture led me to some weird femminazi blog with bunch of images of chopped off dicks, articles where mothers are hating on their baby boys because they aren't girls, articles about females raping hobos. Strange stuff.
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Molly on April 08, 2017, 04:26:29 pm
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Hot!
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Post by: Ikarus on April 09, 2017, 06:03:34 am
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Post by: Xant on April 13, 2017, 03:08:55 am
Title: Re: MASS EFFECT™ Official Video – N7 Day 2015
Post by: Molly on April 13, 2017, 09:56:57 am
@forumgoers, as a Mass Effect fan, is it worth buying? Is the story/writing really that bad? Also, the facial animations seem incredibly immersion breaking. How's the combat?
Yes, atmosphere overall is still Mass Effect, partially good, partially really bad, still has its moments, latest patch reworked some animations and facial textures which is a noticeable improvement. Combat is definitely the best out of any Mass Effect - dynamic, fast-paced, fun.

If the money does not ruin you, buy it now and enjoy. If you're tight on money, wait for a drop.