“The IARC says you can enjoy your yoga class, but don’t breathe air (class 1 carcinogen), sit near a sun-filled window (class 1), apply aloe vera (class 2B) if you get a sunburn, drink wine or coffee (class 1 and class 2B), or eat grilled food (class 2A). And if you are a hairdresser or do shift work (both class 2A), you should seek a new career.”
Dr Elizabeth Lund – an independent consultant in nutritional and gastrointestinal health, and a former research leader at the Institute of Food Research, who acknowledges she did some work for the meat industry in 2010 – said red meat was linked to about three extra cases of bowel cancer per 100,000 adults in developed countries.
“A much bigger risk factor is obesity and lack of exercise,” she said. “Overall, I feel that eating meat once a day combined with plenty of fruit, vegetables and cereal fibre, plus exercise and weight control, will allow for a low risk of colorectal cancer and a more balanced diet.”
Prof Ian Johnson, emeritus fellow at the Institute of Food Research, also said the effect was small. “It is certainly very inappropriate to suggest that any adverse effect of bacon and sausages on the risk of bowel cancer is comparable to the dangers of tobacco smoke, which is loaded with known chemical carcinogens and increases the risk of lung cancer in cigarette smokers by around twentyfold.”
The North American Meat Institute said defining red meat as a cancer hazard defied common sense.
“It was clear, sitting in the IARC meeting, that many of the panellists were aiming for a specific result despite old, weak, inconsistent, self-reported intake data,” said Betsy Booren, the institute’s vice-president of scientific affairs. “They tortured the data to ensure a specific outcome.
“Red and processed meat are among 940 agents reviewed by the IARC and found to pose some level of theoretical ‘hazard’. Only one substance, a chemical in yoga pants, has been declared by the IARC not to cause cancer.
I don't know what in red meat raises the cancer risk, but it doesn't have to be non-natural in origin, like with processed food.
They are mostly blaming curing salt and salt in general. Curing salt is kitchen salt or sodium chloride (NaCl) mixed with sodium nitrite (NaNO2). But researchers claim that even ordinary kitchen salt is dangerous. Think it has something to with the way salt interacts with living cells. Ever wondered how it can preserve meat for years? That's because it kill cells or makes them inactive by taking water out of them (not exactly taking but process known as osmosis occurs when there is salt outside cell walls). But I sure ain't a chemist so take this with grain of salt :mrgreen:
What neutralizes these nitrites or nitrates to go haywire on your organism is ascorbic acid, popularly known as Vitamin C. That is why eating veggies and fruits is helpful, especially in cancer cases but for people with compromised immune system in general. Other antioxidants help too. Cinnamon for example.
What doesn't cause cancer?A chemical used in yoga pants. Everything else does.
hmm, gonna eat vegtables - oh wait, pestizides in them causing cancer...
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1) In chemistry, a term used to describe any molecule held together by a chain of carbon atoms.
2) Used to describe the characteristics of a living system (for example a creature's body or an entire habitat) consisting of smoothly running interacting parts and shaped by the processes of Darwinian evolution.
3) As an analogy in the creative process, used to describe a work such as a novel or movie script made in such a way that the various parts developed as they were written/painted/whatever, one from another, rather than sticking rigidly to a preconceived plan.
4) In popular culture, a term applied in line with the most rabid intentions of New Age pseudoscience, ultimately from the mouths of people who would like to have scientists burned at the stake. Much favoured by people who use chemical as an unqualified snarl word. Artificial fertilisers are decried as poison, despite the fact that they contain the same chemical compounds that plants derive from "natural" fertilisers; if these compounds were real poisons, our biosphere would have been in serious doo-doo long ago. Anything coming from a lab is allegedly ipso facto evil and foul, even if its molecular structure is identical to that of compounds found in Nature. Genetic engineering is seen as the foul left hand of Satan, based on arguments that are about as rational as those for the existence of the fellah downstairs, too. Organic farming is held by its propagandists to be the farming of the future ... and it might be, at least if the human population of the Earth drops by 99 percent. Typical stock in trade arguments from the "organic" movement, as elsewhere in the witchypoo "alternative" movement, consist of appeals to fear, to irrationality and to conspiracy theories about Big Business ... but, such has been the success of the propaganda campaign over the last few decades, nobody seems to subject "organic" produce to the same safety standards. "Organic" production requires far more acreage than conventional farming methods to produce the same yield. It is typically shilled for by celebrities, who after all often have more money than sense and can afford to buy the stuff, and much beloved of fad dieters who don't eat that much anyway. All in all, one of the movements that make one genuinely fearful for the future of our technological civilisation.
4) In popular culture, a term applied in line with the most rabid intentions of New Age pseudoscience, ultimately from the mouths of people who would like to have scientists burned at the stake. Much favoured by people who use chemical as an unqualified snarl word. Artificial fertilisers are decried as poison, despite the fact that they contain the same chemical compounds that plants derive from "natural" fertilisers; if these compounds were real poisons, our biosphere would have been in serious doo-doo long ago. Anything coming from a lab is allegedly ipso facto evil and foul, even if its molecular structure is identical to that of compounds found in Nature. Genetic engineering is seen as the foul left hand of Satan, based on arguments that are about as rational as those for the existence of the fellah downstairs, too. Organic farming is held by its propagandists to be the farming of the future ... and it might be, at least if the human population of the Earth drops by 99 percent. Typical stock in trade arguments from the "organic" movement, as elsewhere in the witchypoo "alternative" movement, consist of appeals to fear, to irrationality and to conspiracy theories about Big Business ... but, such has been the success of the propaganda campaign over the last few decades, nobody seems to subject "organic" produce to the same safety standards. "Organic" production requires far more acreage than conventional farming methods to produce the same yield. It is typically shilled for by celebrities, who after all often have more money than sense and can afford to buy the stuff, and much beloved of fad dieters who don't eat that much anyway. All in all, one of the movements that make one genuinely fearful for the future of our technological civilisation.Good read, would read again
Stop eating white bread, or bread that contains yeast or flour. Stop eating white rice, stop eating canned tuna, stop eating tuna in general (full of heavy metals), cut down meats to once or twice a weak (meat is acidic, for optimal health your body needs a pH of 7) eat more greens. If you can't avoid meat, eat turkey instead of chicken/beef, these are the worst. Make sure you get enough fatty acids, like omega 3 and 6, also start cooking with clarified butter or ghee, or even coconut oil.And all of Bjord's health recommendations are of course based on peer-reviewed scientific research
And as with anything, moderation.
Make sure the vegetables you buy are organic, and you won't have a problem.
Eating well is super important, if you don't want to lose your hair from the radiation of the monitor you're in front of 5-6 hours a day.
Even their "science" department disagrees with them: http://www.theguardian.com/science/sifting-the-evidence/2015/oct/26/meat-and-tobacco-the-difference-between-risk-and-strength-of-evidence
Vegetarians are probably breathing a sigh of relief today as headlines are warning us that processed and cured meats cause cancer. But the way this message has been framed in the media is extremely misleading.
Good read, would read again
And all of Bjord's health recommendations are of course based on peer-reviewed scientific research
FYI WHO just announced that many red meats and processed meats are carcinogenic, 11 scientists took part in this research and enough evidence was gathered to support this statement.Yes, I know, I am in this thread too. It is important to not draw a larger conclusion than they present though. They say that eating processed meats increases risk of cancer and eating red meats "probably" increases risk of cancer. This does not mean too much in itself, and I see no reason to cease my consumption of red meat.
that's why you don't eat meat that's above medium rare like a real man
Unless its like a very high quality steak.
You all guys discuss it like cancer actually exists...
FYI WHO just announced that many red meats and processed meats are carcinogenic, 11 scientists took part in this research and enough evidence was gathered to support this statement.
“Red and processed meat are among 940 agents reviewed by the IARC and found to pose some level of theoretical ‘hazard’. Only one substance, a chemical in yoga pants, has been declared by the IARC not to cause cancer."
You all guys discuss it like cancer actually exists...Some elaborate CIA/NATO/NWO conspiracy?
huehue xant, huehueDid you not understand the quoted part? It's literally meaningless to say something is "carcinogenic." Literally. Unless you plan on breathing, eating, drinking, wearing and building your house out of a single chemical used in yoga pants. You can't go outside either, of course.
Did you not understand the quoted part? It's literally meaningless to say something is "carcinogenic." Literally. Unless you plan on breathing, eating, drinking, wearing and building your house out of a single chemical used in yoga pants. You can't go outside either, of course.
How about you specify in what grade air is carcinogenic? And compare with red meat.
Some elaborate CIA/NATO/NWO conspiracy?Not really, just me trying to look smart by posting a stupid thing or something. :? Kinda tried to bring up something fresh into the discussion, I guess.
Wouldn't that depend entirely on where you're breathing the air?Pork is more carcinogenic than air? Well, I'll be. Stop the presses!
Red meat, pork in particular, is without the shadow of a doubt more carcinogenic than air in any case, period.
Literally everything I've said has been very mild and entirely backed up by science and facts.(click to show/hide)
whatever.
Not really, just me trying to look smart by posting a stupid thing or something. :? Kinda tried to bring up something fresh into the discussion, I guess.You wasted a perfectly good chance there to go all Murmi/Tovi on the matter. I merely tried to help :(
Literally everything I've said has been very mild and entirely backed up by science and facts.
But but... its WHO! :wink:
[...]Cancer is fucking random and causality is an illusion, deal with it.That's what I tell myself everytime I light another cigarette :lol:
in a nutshell: keep an eye on the overall quality ofthe meateverything. Don´t eatmeat everydaytoo much, but if so,treat yourself with some high quality meatexercise
in a nutshell: keep an eye on the overall quality ofThis is how I see food. Everything of a bad quality can cause problem, particularly in excess. And seeing that you cannot objectively analyze the quality of a product, without going through scientifical experiments that noone bothers except the lobby groups, you are better off just eating whatever you like.the meateverything. Don´t eatmeat everydaytoo much, but if so,treat yourself with some high quality meatexercise
Scientists are often paid by lobbyists.
That's what I tell myself everytime I light another cigarette :lol: