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Title: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: dreadnok on August 18, 2015, 10:50:21 pm
is there a damage reduction when using it one handed? please i must know
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: JasonPastman on August 18, 2015, 10:51:28 pm
+3 its 39c, +1 speed though
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: dreadnok on August 18, 2015, 11:06:58 pm
ya i read a  long time ago 2h with 1h mode takes a damage reduction so just wondering
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: ArysOakheart on August 18, 2015, 11:15:29 pm
ya i read a  long time ago 2h with 1h mode takes a damage reduction so just wondering

I think you lose 30% speed and 30% damage.

Edit: Numbers are for when you use a 2h as a 1h with a shield.
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: dreadnok on August 18, 2015, 11:23:54 pm
thx alot arys
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: Utrakil on August 19, 2015, 12:02:30 am
the stats of the secondary mode are
Executioner sword:    1h – 36c – 20c – 97 speed
http://forum.melee.org/beginner's-help-and-guides/secondary-modes-%28help-needed%29/msg951412/#msg951412 (http://forum.melee.org/beginner's-help-and-guides/secondary-modes-%28help-needed%29/msg951412/#msg951412)
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on August 19, 2015, 12:35:55 am
If it's an actual secondary mode (like switching to polearm halfswording) the % dmg and speed reduction doesn't get used. If you are using a 2H with a shield and forcing it into 1H mode it gets the penalty.

The executioner sword has an actual 1H mode on it right? I can't remember.
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: BlackxBird on August 19, 2015, 12:46:35 am
yes it has. And the 1H mode is even better than the 2H. It's damn fast and does crazy damage. U wanna get more than 15 kills in 1 minute? Keep spinning and leftspam with that weapon and you will get them even without a desktop :D
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: Nehvar on August 19, 2015, 05:34:27 pm
The secondary modes of weapons can actually be thought of as completely separate weapons.  The executioner sword has a one-handed secondary mode so for all intents and purposes it is a one-hander in secondary mode; no penalties.  Also, there was a patch a long time ago that removed the damage penalty for two-handers used with a shield, so even if it was one of those two-handers it would still do full damage. 

Coincidentally this also affects the damage of two-handers used from horseback.  So any two-hander that is usable with a shield does full damage from horseback (still gets a speed penalty though).  For this reason I'm kinda surprised that I haven't seen more mounted Persian battle axes.

Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: dreadnok on August 19, 2015, 06:42:46 pm
I got a mastereork now and its 39 c which is pretty nice for a sword. So knowing now that the penalty is gone is even better
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: Taser on August 19, 2015, 07:04:50 pm
*caresses his military cleaver*

You're still better baby.
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: dreadnok on August 20, 2015, 03:02:43 am
*caresses his military cleaver*

You're still better baby.

Lol got one of those tooooooo
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: ArysOakheart on August 20, 2015, 09:03:58 am
Lol got one of those tooooooo

I remember you bitching about it a loooong time ago.
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: Gurnisson on August 20, 2015, 11:20:58 am
I got a mastereork now and its 39 c which is pretty nice for a sword. So knowing now that the penalty is gone is even better

98 speed, 39 cut and 96 length at +3? Well, don't expect it to stay like that longer than until next patch now that balancers know about this.
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: dreadnok on August 20, 2015, 02:11:38 pm
98 speed, 39 cut and 96 length at +3? Well, don't expect it to stay like that longer than until next patch now that balancers know about this.


Thats not that bad tho, it dont feel like 98 at all. It doesnt seem overpowered to me, 1h spash is pretty weak.
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: HarryCrumb on August 20, 2015, 03:21:07 pm

Thats not that bad tho, it dont feel like 98 at all. It doesnt seem overpowered to me, 1h spash is pretty weak.

shut the fuck up, you slimey tommy toughtits
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: dreadnok on August 20, 2015, 06:12:50 pm
shut the fuck up, you slimey tommy toughtits

Dually noted, and accurate
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: ArysOakheart on August 21, 2015, 12:05:14 pm
shut the fuck up, you slimey tommy toughtits

Oh god that brings me back
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: dreadnok on August 21, 2015, 01:35:28 pm
Oh god that brings me back

Good food , good friends and good times. Live, love, laugh
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on August 21, 2015, 10:11:15 pm
Is the estoc/shield thing still worth doing? I think the estoc got nerfed or maybe just the 2h stab animation change fucked it I don't know.

Also I guess that now I know there's no penalty, I can finally play the katana buckler build of my dreams!
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: BlackxBird on August 21, 2015, 11:15:13 pm
katana + shield allways worked fine :D
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: dreadnok on August 21, 2015, 11:50:59 pm
No there def is a speed difference tho.
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: ImElias on August 21, 2015, 11:53:27 pm
I'm currently using Executioner set to 1H+Shield as my primary for cavalry. Easily better than a cleaver and rarely ever glances on or off horse.
Title: Re: executioner sword 1h use
Post by: Rebelyell on August 23, 2015, 04:40:55 pm
98 speed, 39 cut and 96 length at +3? Well, don't expect it to stay like that longer than until next patch now that balancers know about this.
Its funny because it will never happen