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Title: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Casul on July 16, 2015, 06:33:34 pm
I really demand any kind of punishment for those who cant withhold going fully retarded in their emotional outburst.
Just played a bit on Eu1 and read inults you normally only find on reddit or youtube comment section.

Seriously I dont really get it, if I teamkill someone I have good chances to get a nice time out because I hurt 1 player.
But if you say: >  You shithole motherfucker die on cancer, fucking retard l2p <  its obviously okay because non physical damage is not a thread right?

I really have to say that I know enough players who DO get upset when they have to read something like this (esp when you use cancer, mother and die in 1 sentence) , even though they were not targeted

I mean, Gravy was there, dont want to blame him because no admin does anything about this, but I would really appreciate it if this behaviour could be muteable in the future.
This situation before on Eu 1 isnt actually that much of a huge thing, but in times of GTX the hate speech wall was bigger than the green Krems voice command wall.

Why is this still allowed, can someone explain this to me? I know you could make a ban thread if you feel hurt blablabla, but this takes like another 5-10 minutes and its obivously redundant if you have an ADMIN on the server who should deal with this.
AND WHY does the WHOLE server population have to read the 100% retarded compilation of the worst insults only because one of those endgame tryhards gets mad, and they are obviously really god damn mad.

Its actually really hard to make me sad/mad/upset, but I really cant stand people like this.  :C
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: WarLord on July 16, 2015, 06:37:05 pm
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Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Oberyn on July 16, 2015, 06:40:21 pm
Look at this fucking pussy. If it bothers you that much, you can easily mute the offender. Make the server into the shittiest hugbox safe space you want. You have the option to. Also lol at "hate speech". You obviously have no idea wtf that is if shittalking on a video game is "hate speech" to you. "Non physical damage", seriously go fuck yourself. You are a complete fucking retard. Are you going to ask admins to ban me from forums now? Is this "harassment"? Someone just disagreed with you and insulted you on the internetz! Are you going to cry? Go ahead and make ban threads for "feeling hurt", as far as I know hurting your "feelings" isn't a bannable offense.
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Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: _Tamra_ on July 16, 2015, 06:41:56 pm
I'd normally say welcome to c-RPG or any other game? I don't remember it ever was different than this.
Mad people everywhere, but if you care, you lost.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Osakasa on July 16, 2015, 06:47:42 pm
I might have said once or twice something bad to some players in my few years long cRPG career, i'm deeply sorry and my humble apologize to all.

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Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Oberyn on July 16, 2015, 06:55:31 pm
It's always the people who have no fucking idea what actual "harassment", "hate speech" and "damage" actually means because they have never fucking experienced it, so they take the most innocuous, completely harmless bullshit and use these words as if they were in any way equivalent. I'm just waiting for someone to claim this is "violence", the "damage" claim already isn't far off. Sorry, some person telling you to fuck your mother on a video game isn't hate speech. It's not even hate speech face to face, although a case could be made that it falls under fighting words.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Bronto on July 16, 2015, 07:00:05 pm
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Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Leshma on July 16, 2015, 07:01:44 pm
Some admins mute people for hate speech, especially if offender is targeting them among other folks. Most don't do anything and that is general rule on internet.

When British finish their little project, internet might end up "purified" from hate speech and trolls of every kind but you'll have to wait for that to happen.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Casul on July 16, 2015, 07:25:11 pm
Mad people everywhere, but if you care, you lost.

If I care, I make a thread, explain my point and try to change something.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: karasu on July 16, 2015, 07:31:18 pm
You can't change the unchangeable. There will always be retards in any game (and forums as you can read some posts above).

    If things get out of control besides the usual "mom jokes" or "i'll fukin cut your throat and cum directly on your esophagus, m9" and no admin is around or cares do act, just mute and keep having fun.

Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: BlackxBird on July 16, 2015, 07:38:05 pm
just kill them on the server.

Not working?

kill them in rl.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Richyy on July 16, 2015, 07:38:31 pm
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shut up, tryhard
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Gravoth_iii on July 16, 2015, 07:48:44 pm
Personally, i think its hilarious. The more creative the insult, the better. Someone once said something like "I hope you suffocate" which was nice, feels like it has a bigger punch than the regular insult. I like free speech, you have the choice to mute them anyways. Im just baffled that people actually take offense from randomers on the internet, lionheart went apeshit earlier on eu1 and me and rufio were laughing our asses off, good times. It just doesnt happen if you enforce a pretty chat.

Anger adds competition, if someone is upset with me i will be fighting at 110% to beat him, just to anger him further.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Austrian on July 16, 2015, 07:51:04 pm
Grow some thicker skin when being on the internet IMO.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Casul on July 16, 2015, 08:15:22 pm
I actually agree with Gravoth, its mostly funny, but what Lionheart said before is far from okayish imo because you could definitly see how serious he was about what he said.

If someone says "I hope you suffocate" I might laugh aswell but again, thats something very different from what I am talking about.

Also agree with Austri, but:
This is a game, and it should be different from the rest of the internet because: its a game. It should be fun for everyone and everyone should be able to enjoy it.

Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Leshma on July 16, 2015, 08:16:17 pm
I've done something illegal, cyberstalked another member of this community (Nashringa). Thanks to circumstances nothing happened. But let's say we both live in California and he wants to press charges, he could easily because there is a law against cyberstalking.

Why did I write this? Currently, in most countries there is no law against cyberbullying/cyberstalking but it won't take long until that is regulated. When that happens people will have to change their habits and grow a thicker skin won't be a viable argument anymore.

Enjoy anonymous shittalking over the internet while you can, worthless maggots :wink:
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Leshma on July 16, 2015, 08:19:02 pm
but what Lionheart said before is far from okayish imo because you could definitly see how serious he was about what he said.

Just call him a Turk and drop some prejudiced line you've picked up on the internet. He'll bite and get angry fast, even though he isn't Turkish. He's actually Italian if I'm not mistaken but insulting Italians does not working against him.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Tagora on July 16, 2015, 08:21:19 pm
I like how Leshma is the perfect representation of the village idiot.  It adds to cRPG's immersion.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: StonedSteel on July 16, 2015, 08:25:08 pm
wait WOT!!!?!?!?

GRAVOTH!!!


well fucking said m8, i mean, ur still a pos no skilled troll who hates knights and anything realfuckinglistic...but i agree with ya this time. ( and the krems thing, their funny and everything...but fuck those guys ya? )
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Grumbs on July 16, 2015, 08:31:17 pm
TBH it is kind of amusing when you know someone has blown a fuse and starts spamming insults, but at the same time I think its worth considering how newcomers see the server and I like to have chat that encourages a decent atmosphere. Its up to the admins to use discretion when it comes to crossing an invisible line, and we don't really have many admins and I doubt they could be bothered doing it anyway. There are concrete lines though to me, such as racism..but again can an admin be bothered if he sees it and wants to play? If you can be bothered making a ban thread then go for it, if not just forget about it
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Gravoth_iii on July 16, 2015, 08:56:40 pm
1. You TK'd someone? Write an essay about 'Why it is important to keep the game fun for everyone', you're the worst kind of scum just doing what you want because you're on the internet.

2. You told someone ingame that you hope their mum dies of cancer? Right on brother! Those pussies in the server should just ignore it if they dont like it!

cRPG

Yes, this only applies to crpg. Definitely only crpg.

And yes lionheart being turkish makes him easily pissed off, even swedish bundle of sticksry cant solve that. Genuine anger is better than fake, i can only perform fake unfortunately.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Leshma on July 16, 2015, 09:15:25 pm
I like how Leshma is the perfect representation of the village idiot.  It adds to cRPG's immersion.

Only on forums, sadly.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Tagora on July 16, 2015, 10:00:48 pm
Only on forums, sadly.

post a selfie
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Riddaren on July 16, 2015, 10:22:59 pm
"Cav 2 hard" = Hate speech

Extreme hating on other classes is something that should result in a ban. Period.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Riddaren on July 16, 2015, 11:03:53 pm
Also lol at "hate speech". You obviously have no idea wtf that is if shittalking on a video game is "hate speech" to you.

Everything is relative Oberyn. When we play a video game, that is the reality.
What someone says or does IRL is not relevant.

Ask yourself this, who is the stranger you want to play against in this game?
- A real life "nice" person, who hates on other classes ingame and in the forum
- A real life "bad" person, who is just being nice both ingame and on the forum

It should be the second one for any sane person trying to enjoy a video game.

See you ingame!
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Akronus97 on July 16, 2015, 11:14:50 pm
It obviously depends on each insult...
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Richyy on July 17, 2015, 12:00:49 am
well i agree its not nice when someone tell you that he hope your mom will die from cancer (happaned to me, know that feel) but i guess there is nothing to do about since everyone here are such harsh on someone who actually might care about it, its like a kid calling another kid stupid and then the adult says "are you really stupid? no so you dont need to be care" which is fucking stupid, that mofo just called me stupid, its hurt as a kid, fun fact, most people against cassi are tryhards who usually insult everyone who play wrong or doesnt play like them. :^)
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: darmaster on July 17, 2015, 12:01:03 am
is this serious?
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Richter on July 17, 2015, 12:05:51 am
Freedom of Speech does not mean freedom from being offended.

If someone says something you don't like, you may initiate use of your right to privacy, and leave, or mute them.

You will never be safe from someone saying something offensive unless you shut yourself off completely from society. Let your balls drop, and move on with life understanding that you should not base your opinion of yourself on what some random fool says on the goddamned internet.

I don't like how this community are often such asses to each other, but I dislike censorship much more greatly.
well i agree its not nice when someone tell you that he hope your mom will die from cancer (happaned to me, know that feel) but i guess there is nothing to do about since everyone here are such harsh on someone who actually might care about it, its like a kid calling another kid stupid and then the adult says "are you really stupid? no so you dont need to be care" which is fucking stupid, that mofo just called me stupid, its hurt as a kid, fun fact, most people against cassi are tryhards who usually insult everyone who play wrong or doesnt play like them. :^)
I've played every class except thrower(pure). I have respect for the mechanics of the game, and the ability of people to choose how to play.

We don't need censorship. We need a community that doesn't make people ask for it.
Treat those around you like shit and they will do likewise unto you. The reverse is true.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on July 17, 2015, 12:26:58 am
Just words nothing more ))))

Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Kadeth on July 17, 2015, 01:10:59 am
Look at this fucking pussy. If it bothers you that much, you can easily mute the offender. Make the server into the shittiest hugbox safe space you want. You have the option to. Also lol at "hate speech". You obviously have no idea wtf that is if shittalking on a video game is "hate speech" to you. "Non physical damage", seriously go fuck yourself. You are a complete fucking retard. Are you going to ask admins to ban me from forums now? Is this "harassment"? Someone just disagreed with you and insulted you on the internetz! Are you going to cry? Go ahead and make ban threads for "feeling hurt", as far as I know hurting your "feelings" isn't a bannable offense.
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Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Leshma on July 17, 2015, 02:21:29 am
And when a teammate stabs you it's just a virtual blade, they're not actually attacking you IRL.

But i guess if someone TKs you, then you just need to grow a thicker skin since this is the internet right? Or ignore them, or leave the server. That's the advise admins give if someone's TKing you right?

No, they put you in prison. Virtually, of course. Sometimes they throw key away.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Dionysus on July 17, 2015, 03:16:09 am
You got to have thicker skin, especially when you're playing online where anonymity is the rule. I can say that on NA, a lot of the bashing is for fun, meaning if you take it seriously, you're kind of socially inept. Fire one back at them and laugh it off. Besides, we're all just playing a game.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Casul on July 17, 2015, 03:57:31 am
Again, its not about those minor insults which are mostly even ment friendly somehow, I do that aswell, sometimes.  Its about those guys who only join to flame, hate and rage, crying about ranged and totally losing it when some my old friendchers kills them.

Yes, we are all just playing the game, to have fun. But raging, insulting and going fully retarded is nothing what I call fun :/
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Rando on July 17, 2015, 05:15:28 am
"Punish people who say things I don't like, even though I can just mute them"

You're the one going full retard, brother.

Just because you're a soft hearted Weenie Hut Jr. VIP club member doesn't mean everyone else wants to be.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Jona on July 17, 2015, 05:59:31 am
Its about those guys who only join to flame, hate and rage, crying about ranged and totally losing it when some my old friendchers kills them.

So what you're saying is, crpg would be a better place without the real-life-socially-inept half the community? I'd much rather have ragers to kill than no one at all. Besides, little else tops killing a sperglord who's gonna bitch about it for 5 minutes right after.

But raging, insulting and going fully retarded is nothing what I call fun :/

Perhaps watching someone have an internet meltdown isn't "fun," but it sure is absolutely hilarious.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: StonedSteel on July 17, 2015, 03:10:04 pm
Again, its not about those minor insults which are mostly even ment friendly somehow, I do that aswell, sometimes.  Its about those guys who only join to flame, hate and rage, crying about ranged and totally losing it when some my old friendchers kills them.

Yes, we are all just playing the game, to have fun. But raging, insulting and going fully retarded is nothing what I call fun :/

holy fuck, go fucking outside ffs man, learn how the fucking world fucking works, not everyone is gonna act the fucking way u fucking want them to, be fucking glad ur not in fucking NA dealing with fucking knightmare he would rip u a fucking new one. especially if ur fucking bad at the game, i bet u fucking are.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Protemus on July 17, 2015, 04:12:53 pm
I just want to add that as a dedicated HA I've seen some seriously bad comments and even threats on my life, however, you fight it back, with your SILENCE, I've noticed it hurts them more then just replying to their insults with more insults. Psycho wars Cassi, psycho wars.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on July 17, 2015, 04:22:39 pm
anonymity is basically for acting like you were someone else, I act retard and jerk just cause it's fun to see someone get offended by the shit I say, nothing personal thou.
IRL I am a nice guy ))
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on July 17, 2015, 04:27:06 pm
I feel empathetic to those who legitimately get hurt when people talk shit, but

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Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: karasu on July 17, 2015, 04:31:08 pm
The good ol' basement-dwelling internet bravado.

We (admins) would go apeshit if such things got under our skin.

Walk away from pc, deeply breathe the polluted air outside, and things turn brighter.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on July 17, 2015, 04:32:00 pm
I've done something illegal, cyberstalked another member of this community (Nashringa).

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Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Leshma on July 17, 2015, 05:18:24 pm
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Posting messages to online bulletin boards and discussion groups with the victim’s personal information, such as home address, phone number or Social Security number. Posts may also be lewd or controversial – and result in the victim receiving numerous emails, calls or visits from people who read the post online.

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In California, both criminal and civil laws address stalking. According to the criminal laws, a stalker is someone who willfully, maliciously and repeatedly follows or harasses another (victim) and who makes a credible threat with the intent to place the victim or victim's immediate family in fear for their safety. The victim does not have to prove that the stalker had the intent to carry out the threat. (California Penal Code 646.9, www.leginfo.ca.gov)

The criminal penalty for stalking is imprisonment up to a year and/or a fine of up to $1,000. There are more severe penalties when the stalker pursues the same person in violation of a court restraining order, with a sentencing range of two to four years imprisonment. Persons convicted of felony stalking also face stricter penalties if they continue to stalk their victim(s). Courts may issue restraining orders to prohibit stalking. (California Family Code 6320)

https://www.privacyrights.org/are-you-being-stalked#3
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Halk on July 17, 2015, 05:32:20 pm
Damn, I just saw someone upvote a post. I saw the +1 appear to the upvote-thing. Has anyone else experienced this? Does it bring luck?
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on July 17, 2015, 05:46:34 pm
Stop complaining about me cassi, I like raging on the net and in crpg it just feels right cuz I piss on most of its players. Nothing personal guys but I just hate this incest playerbase.

Cheerio and pm me if you want
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Paul on July 17, 2015, 05:52:01 pm
Quote from: cmp
These rules apply to official servers:
- EU_cRPG_x (1,2,3,4,5,6,8)
- NA_cRPG_x (1,2,3,6)

Quote

    "first rule of em all: common sense"
        ~ chadz


If your common sense is not working, here are some more specific guidelines. This is not an explicit list, common sense always overrides disputes. Do not come crying "it's not prohibited in the rules" if you invent a new creative way to be an idiot and get punished.

Behavior rules

    No offensive behavior anywhere
        Remember that this is the internet. Don't be insulted if someone calls you an idiot.
    No offensive character names. If in doubt about a name, pick another one.


General rules

[...]
    No abuse of in-game chat (racism, insulting, griefing, spamming...)
[...]

Admins are human too, so mistakes can happen. We are terribly sorry for not being perfect and are working on replacing all players and admins with computers for optimal performance.

Because of the slight contradiction here it's obviously up to the admin where to draw the line and Rule One applies. If you are thinner-skinned than the present janitor.. Well, get on his level.


Edit: I like how the last sentence partly became true with introducing DTV where most of the 'players' are bots. It worked. It's the most popular game mode last time I checked.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on July 17, 2015, 06:13:10 pm
I think the wording you are looking for is "shittalk" or maybe "flaming", not "hate speech".

I don't have a pleasant report in that regard either. Ingame, sometimes I am really calm as I am supposed to be. Other times I flame hard mostly at my old friendchers.

When the person I am flaming at takes it calmly and maturely, I not only stop but also develop a sense of respect for the person in question. You, Cassi, have been that person numerous times. I mean you are supposed to be good at handling targeted profanity. Why the breakdown now?
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: F i n on July 17, 2015, 07:29:00 pm
Oh I've been served pretty much every insult I can think of. And honestly i don't mind...

Spamming the chat with insults however or picking on single (or new!) Players, which both eventually leads to other rulebreaking behaviour, is punishable.

 8-)
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Micah on July 17, 2015, 07:42:06 pm
Some time ago i proposed a more strict ingame language rule enforcement in suggestion corner, as a measure to reduce overall missbehavior like tk sprees and bullying rampages - the next thing i heared was, that NA admins went on an uncontrollable ban-spree in an (propably exemplary) attempt to readjust ingame language usage - naturally NA folks are way eloquent, precise and more hard hitting in their insulting culture in their mother language. This led to perception of being oppressed by admins in NA playership (possibly reinforced by some other cultural problematics which better be not mentioned here), leading to insane war against admins and consequently to resistance to any regulation attempts ...

My point is, that its not possible to effectively control language and ingame behavior through rule enforcement by admins or any other direct regulation mechanisms. It will always lead to perception of oppression (rightfully?) by players. It is simply the wrong way for dealing with the  "Holiday mindsets" (thats what i call the absence of cooperative and social responsible behavior of people in internet games, as for the similarity of behavior of tourists in foreign countries).

Another question would be, IF there should be a place where people can live out these kinds of inferior complexes at all, or if MMO's are indeed the right place for it - leading to a evaluation basis for the question on how to deal with it.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: StonedSteel on July 17, 2015, 08:23:17 pm
Some time ago i proposed a more strict ingame language rule enforcement in suggestion corner, as a measure to reduce overall missbehavior like tk sprees and bullying rampages - the next thing i heared was, that NA admins went on an uncontrollable ban-spree in an (propably exemplary) attempt to readjust ingame language usage - naturally NA folks are way eloquent, precise and more hard hitting in their insulting culture in their mother language. This led to perception of being oppressed by admins in NA playership (possibly reinforced by some other cultural problematics which better be not mentioned here), leading to insane war against admins and consequently to resistance to any regulation attempts ...

My point is, that its not possible to effectively control language and ingame behavior through rule enforcement by admins or any other direct regulation mechanisms. It will always lead to perception of oppression (rightfully?) by players. It is simply the wrong point for dealing with the  "Holiday mindsets" (thats what i call the absence of cooperative and social responsible behavior of people in internet games, as for the similarity of behavior of tourists in foreign countries).

Another question would be, IF there should be a place where people can live out these kinds of inferior complexes at all, or if MMO's are indeed the right place for it - leading to a evaluation basis for the question on how to deal with it.

my irl pond is getting low on water, looks like im going to have to get the hose and fill it up, sigh, if only water was free


...u wouldnt mind crying into it for a bit?
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Dionysus on July 18, 2015, 02:14:00 am

I'm no expert, but I think cyber bullying is probably a very real and threatening thing to youth, particularly middle-school-age kids who internalize insults a lot worse than adults.

But we're all (young) adults here, so unless someone is making some real ad hominem attacks or threats, then there's nothing that should be done about saying, "Yo your clan is trash fucking polearm my old friends".
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Xesta on July 18, 2015, 05:09:07 pm
I once got a sweet juicy 4 days ban for that/being xesta.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: ecorcheur_brokar on July 20, 2015, 06:28:30 pm
1. You TK'd someone? Write an essay about 'Why it is important to keep the game fun for everyone', you're the worst kind of scum just doing what you want because you're on the internet.

2. You told someone ingame that you hope their mum dies of cancer? Right on brother! Those pussies in the server should just ignore it if they dont like it!

cRPG
TK is killing the game. Insult are making this game better.

I mean would you still play this game if it wasnt for hardrada raging and Xesta being butthurt (cuz he s bad)? It keeps us occupied to read the "discussion" in the chat while dead on EU1 and as most of "discussion" is rage, a clean chat would just kill the chat.

Two exceptions tho, we should ban people insulting french and people downvoting on forum, it really hirts my feelings.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Utrakil on July 20, 2015, 06:52:37 pm
if it is so easy to hurt your feelings I'll give it a try. here a - for you. 8-)
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Switchtense on July 20, 2015, 07:27:38 pm
To be fair Cassi, insults disturb other people's gameplay much less than what the average Krems member does.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Leshma on July 20, 2015, 07:31:38 pm
I mean would you still play this game if it wasnt for hardrada raging and Xesta being butthurt (cuz he s bad)?

I kinda like Xesta cause he's a troll. Hardrada is just a giant tool, and I'm not too fond of complete idiots.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Switchtense on July 20, 2015, 07:44:27 pm
That's sooooooooo 3 months ago

Naaaaah
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Switchtense on July 20, 2015, 07:54:11 pm
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Gurnisson on July 20, 2015, 08:56:21 pm
I don't really care much about it myself, unless it's way overboard. You get quite thick skin by being a good HA or HX...

There's a mute function for everyone, use it if it's just a couple of silly, empty insults.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on July 20, 2015, 09:37:13 pm
I don't really care much about it myself, unless it's way overboard. You get quite thick skin by being a good HA or HX... admin

agree
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Dooz on July 21, 2015, 04:32:03 am
i'm sure it's already been said here, but... why don't you just mute them yourself? it's not enough that you don't see their bs anymore, you need to know that nobody else on the server can see it either? that gets into some weird territory where one person decides what all other persons should or should not be experiencing. it's better left to every individual how they want to be a part of the community or not.

someone's a shithead, mute em. everyones a shithead, mute chat. easy peasy.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Kafein on July 21, 2015, 01:24:02 pm
Gods... Cassi and Micah. Both of you need to understand one thing: most people here don't want a safe space. Why? First because it serves no purpose. Unless you're incapable to attribute zero value to what some anonymous person on the internet says (which is stupidly easy to begin with). You can make a case for children and even then most of the high school dramas happen because they get bullied by people they know, not randoms. Second, because it does not only create a perception of oppression, it is invariably oppression. We already have excessively vague communication rules but that has been fine because most admins weren't Smoothrich or some other somethingawful-spawn. Hence they were rarely used. If all admins had to suddenly ban "offensive" speech they'd be basically free to ban anybody they want.

The current system works perfectly. If someone is really being annoying, you can file a complaint here, and if there is a consensus that person will get punished. That's called due process. What you want is strip them of their rights and have them prove their innocence afterwards which is unacceptable. Hell, you can even mute them yourself.
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on July 21, 2015, 03:41:49 pm
If I care, I make a thread, explain my point and try to change something.

I CARE TOO BRAH, LETS CARE TOGETHER, FOREVER, SHAREVER! CAREVER!
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Leshma on July 21, 2015, 05:07:34 pm
http://forum.melee.org/eu-(official)/go-ban-him/

LOL
Title: Re: Punish hate speeches #sad Cassi
Post by: Xesta on July 21, 2015, 05:10:12 pm
^ I kek'd.