cRPG
Off Topic => General Off Topic => Topic started by: pogosan on April 23, 2015, 09:17:00 pm
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Don't leave me alone :(
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Wow, just speechless, such wealth.
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i7 4790K is fine, RAM 1600mhz+ is fine, CL9
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I have the I7, was overkill. I5 will be fine. 8-16gb of RAM will be fine too, don't worry about anything above 1600mhz unless it's cheaper for some reason. Get a beefy graphics card and you're away.
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I have the I7, was overkill. I5 will be fine. 8-16gb of RAM will be fine too, don't worry about anything above 1600mhz unless it's cheaper for some reason. Get a beefy graphics card and you're away.
overkill entirely depends on what you play, a lot of games are CPU heavy
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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/9kLXYJ
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In the vast majority of games an i5 will be within 5% of an i7 for FPS.
Unless you are building a zero compromise rig, it's better putting the money elsewhere.
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just buy more ram and you'll be fine
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sell this shit and buy steroids with that money after roid cycle shave your body hair and be a fitness model than get a lot money and buy the highest pc in world.
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why in the hell would you need an i7
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Neither of the CPUs in the poll!
Buy a E3 1231V3 - you basically get a i7 4770 for the price of the i5...
...main difference is just the integrated gpu but as a gamer that is of no interest anyway.
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Unless you are using 3DS max or video editing a lot, it's not worth sacrificing the OC potential and boost to single core performance it brings.
4690k for a gaming/all-round rig
1231V3 for a workrig/gaming
4790k for zero compromise
Not sure why no one is talking about mobos, getting right one is pretty crucial.
(onboard sound chip, m.2 support, reliability!, ocing potential, RMA service).
Most brands are decent, I prefer ASUS/Gigabyte (I own a MSI GD-65, solid board, but ASUS/Gigabyte mid-tier boards are better price/performance.)
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Is cpu overclocking even still a thing?
With my e3 1231v3 I expect easily a life time of 3-5 years w/o any overclocking.
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Is cpu overclocking even still a thing?
With my e3 1231v3 I expect easily a life time of 3-5 years w/o any overclocking.
All about that 4.20GHz, go high or go home.
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Yes. Stock coolers are quite bad. A lot of people like the Hyper 212 Evo (http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-air-cooler/hyper-212-evo/). It's cheap and good. I've never tried it though.
I got a Noctua air cooler a long time ago and I didn't really notice a difference, so I went for a Corsair H60 (http://www.corsair.com/en/hydro-series-h60-cpu-cooler) and I'm happy with the results. I've had it for some years now and the temperatures are much better than with the stock cooler. My 3570K is at 4GHz and it never goes higher than 60ºC.
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You can stick with the intel stock cooler, but I wouldn't recommend it. (Loud, hot, nasty)
CM Hyper 212 evo or Zalman CNPSX10 PERFORMA is good.
Or if you want to go up a step, Corsair H55 is a good AIO watercooler.
I use the CNPSX10, chunky, restricts RAM height, but it's good at what it does (was cheap too).
I also have a H55, very quiet, keeps my GPU nice and cool. (OC'd 780, got a conversion bracket)
You could run 4GHz quite happily on the stock cooler, but I'd expect 70-80C.
Not great, but workable.
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why in the hell would you need an i7
Still better choice than FX-8300...
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I had a case like that and I didn't like it much. If you can get it, check out the Corsair 400R Carbide Black. It's beautiful, simple and big enough.
About the RAM, 1600 should be enough, and, the lower the timings, the faster the memory, I think, so CL7 should be the best, I guess.
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Still better choice than FX-8300...
Even the i5 is, but they're much more expensive and both could be overkill unless you sli/xfire or use dual gpus. As long as you stick with 980 or lower cards 8350 is enough, if needed just a bit of overclocking
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I absolutely recommend the CL watercooler. You won't even hear your CPU working ever again.
About RAM, determining which frequency and timings will be better for you is an extremely complicated matter, but in general branded kits won't screw you over. 1600 CAS 7 is good, so is 1866 CAS 8 and 2133 CAS 9 and so on. All that considering XMP is activated (because why wouldn't you?).
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If you get such a high tier cpu your gpu is going to be a bottleneck. You don't need anything other than a little more ram, get decent cooling and overclock your cpu.
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i5 = no hyperthreading :3
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i5 = no hyperthreading :3
Nobody cares. And I do multi-core programming.
As for the GPU thing, it all depends on resolution. You definitely want a high-end card like the 970 or 980 if you plan on switching to 1440p or 4K.
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I'm not going to use that GPU forever. I would get a better one but a decent GPU costs half or even more than half than all the stuff I'm discussing here so it's not an option for now. When I'll save some more money (after buying all this) I'll start thinking about new one.
Just be content with what you have, no point in upgrading. Your PC will do fine in any game and it's just mindless consumerism to think anything else. Do you really need all these fancy pixels on your screen?
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Make sure your PSU meets Haswell requirements.
http://techreport.com/review/24897/the-big-haswell-psu-compatibility-list
The gaming 3 mobo is ok, but I saw this (not sure where you live, so many not help)
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z87mpower
It's z87, so no m.2 slot for super fast expensive SSDs. But it's MSI's extreme style board, designed to OC like not much else.
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Nobody cares. And I do multi-core programming.
As for the GPU thing, it all depends on resolution. You definitely want a high-end card like the 970 or 980 if you plan on switching to 1440p or 4K.
Games care performance wise.
And hardware development goes into parallel working lines instead of frequency.
Multithreading is and will gain importance.
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For the lifetime of this pc though, most games would prefer an OC'd i5 to a under-stock i7.
And price, I'm pretty sure a 4690k is still quite a bit cheaper than a 1231V3. (price really dictates this fight and could swing either way)
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Granted, the price for the e3 went quite a bit up since I bought it. I didn't really check before.
That is an actual worthwhile argument.
But I still refuse to see performing a brand new cpu out of its warranty limits as a good choice nor good suggestion.
Especially when on a tight budget.
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Games care performance wise.
What games are we talking about exactly? The ones that use 8 logical threads? For gaming today HT is virtually useless.
And hardware development goes into parallel working lines instead of frequency.
Multithreading is and will gain importance.
I completely agree. However, games and applications in general are still very, very far from that.
But I still refuse to see performing a brand new cpu out of its warranty limits as a good choice nor good suggestion.
Especially when on a tight budget.
You have to be particularly reckless to brick your parts with a reasonable OC today, especially considering the amount of reading material and auto-OC tools around. There's no point even taking the slightest risks if none of the things you do are going to be impacted though, true.