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Strategus => Strategus General Discussion => Topic started by: yasutay on April 05, 2015, 03:44:52 pm

Title: strategus and raid
Post by: yasutay on April 05, 2015, 03:44:52 pm
If I choose raid
what I gain?
just items or items and money or just money I dont know what I gain :D
Title: Re: strategus and raid
Post by: Mr.K. on April 05, 2015, 04:33:03 pm
You gain the items in the fief, not the money.
Title: Re: strategus and raid
Post by: Kalp on April 05, 2015, 07:49:31 pm
Now when I'm thinking about raids it's sounds bad.

"What ? They took our swords and plows, but left the gold  :o :shock: :?: "

I may be wrong, but wasn't it one of the reasons of raids, the opportunity to enrichment ?
Title: Re: strategus and raid
Post by: yasutay on April 06, 2015, 02:28:48 am
Not enough for me.
Why we dont gain money this is so pointless.
Title: Re: strategus and raid
Post by: Gimest on April 11, 2015, 10:15:20 am
I just dont get it, at this state of strategus, why the fuck are you all raiding eachother? Would think that at this point, there should be only some battles with decent gear. But no, ppl have to raid and rape some peasants...

I know this was completely off topic, but there was somekinda discussion about raid and had to bring this up, ive been looking battle section sometimes, and those raids just made me wonder.
Title: Re: strategus and raid
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 11, 2015, 11:14:21 am
Quote from: Gimest on April 11, 2015, 10:15:20 am
I just dont get it, at this state of strategus, why the fuck are you all raiding eachother? Would think that at this point, there should be only some battles with decent gear. But no, ppl have to raid and rape some peasants...

I know this was completely off topic, but there was somekinda discussion about raid and had to bring this up, ive been looking battle section sometimes, and those raids just made me wonder.

^^ This. Its basically what I've been saying to my faction for all the wars we've been in. Ruins the game.
Title: Re: strategus and raid
Post by: CALAMARI on April 11, 2015, 04:51:09 pm
Quote from: King_Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 11, 2015, 11:14:21 am
^^ This. Its basically what I've been saying to my faction for all the wars we've been in. Ruins the game.

Don't believe this hypocritical sack of shit.

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Title: Re: strategus and raid
Post by: Mr.K. on April 11, 2015, 08:47:32 pm
It's because there's way too many fiefs for the population we currently have and the crime system is a bit broken. If it was changed that capturing a fief with 100% crime would drop it to zero, there would be an incentive to actually attack one. Now even if you take it you can't defend it anyway, so what's the point. That plus the fact that there's more fiefs than players currently means that nobody really needs any fiefs.

There's no real battles because there's no one to fight against and "fun battles" were never actually fun. The reasons for the current state on EU side are quite clear and talked over and over in other topics. Haven't payed much attention to NA but I assume the same thing happened there when the Squids were ganked.
Title: Re: strategus and raid
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 12, 2015, 02:39:27 am
Quote from: SQUIDNAUGHT on April 11, 2015, 04:51:09 pm
Don't believe this hypocritical sack of shit.

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Lol, first off raiding AFK players doesn't count considering no one would've showed up no matter what, I just needed gear so that way I could do stuff as an ACTIVE player in strat. Second, just because I did it doesn't mean I wasn't against it. You can ask anyone in my faction I've repeatedly been against it and when they've tried to raid ACTIVE players I've gone in and changed it from raids to attacks.
Title: Re: strategus and raid
Post by: Dutchydave on April 12, 2015, 03:14:52 am
Well Tristan Squids have got rosters every time Narra has been attacked, Narra has been maintained this entire Strat by them, hence calling them AFK is totally false. Your a fucking hypocrite, simple as that. Raiding is lame and you have been caught out dribbling nothing but pathetic lies  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: strategus and raid
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 12, 2015, 03:34:17 am
Most of the battles between House Stark and Republic of Squids they fielded nothing. If they field troops for 1 or 2 out of ever 15-16 battles and then for the ones they do its not even squid players, its fairly safe to say they dont play strat anymore. And the fiefs we were attacking, the people didn't play strat anymore. Just because whoever owns Narra logs on once every two days or whatever to get rid of S&D doesn't mean the other players in the clan are active lol.

Images of most the battles before I got too lazy to make screenshots:
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Also implying Squids haven't ever raided anywhere.
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Title: Re: strategus and raid
Post by: Talanarsis on April 12, 2015, 03:44:11 am
Quote from: Dutchydave on April 12, 2015, 03:14:52 am
Well Tristan Squids have got rosters every time Narra has been attacked, Narra has been maintained this entire Strat by them, hence calling them AFK is totally false. Your a fucking hypocrite, simple as that. Raiding is lame and you have been caught out dribbling nothing but pathetic lies  :rolleyes:

Its true that Tristan is against raiding and those fiefs were owned by AFK people when we attacked. No mercs were hired for the Squids when we took their fiefs, which is why we were surprised that we faced opposition when we attacked Narra.
Title: Re: strategus and raid
Post by: Dutchydave on April 12, 2015, 05:02:24 am
Quote from: King_Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 12, 2015, 03:34:17 am
Most of the battles between House Stark and Republic of Squids they fielded nothing. If they field troops for 1 or 2 out of ever 15-16 battles and then for the ones they do its not even squid players, its fairly safe to say they dont play strat anymore. And the fiefs we were attacking, the people didn't play strat anymore. Just because whoever owns Narra logs on once every two days or whatever to get rid of S&D doesn't mean the other players in the clan are active lol.

Images of most the battles before I got too lazy to make screenshots:
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Also implying Squids haven't ever raided anywhere.
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Whats to say they aint the actual raids, fiefs after raids or unmanned villages, these pics prove nothing.  :rolleyes: No one ever said anything about squids doing raids, they just pointed out your dribble.

In fact these pics  (some doubles) just prove the squids where active, like serious mate just admit you used lame raid tactics and then posted the opposite in this thread and get a little respect back.
Title: Re: strategus and raid
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 12, 2015, 06:55:24 am
How do they prove at all the squids were active? They didn't show up to battles, they didn't hire mercs to defend, etc etc. If anything it proves they aren't.
Title: Re: strategus and raid
Post by: Dutchydave on April 12, 2015, 01:43:05 pm
Quote from: King_Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 12, 2015, 06:55:24 am
How do they prove at all the squids were active? They didn't show up to battles, they didn't hire mercs to defend, etc etc. If anything it proves they aren't.

just to clear up the Squids raids first of all they are in the middle of the proposed strat time frame. One of the raids is a 1700 vs 1700 on MB( quiet a nice looking battle by the stats we can see) and the raid against Astralis was forfeited, the other raid was against MB by "Cannwennan" who ever the hell that is?

With the pics that you suggest prove Squids where inactive:

- 9v9 Squids showed up vs 14/16 starks.
- Squids attack 3 out of 12 pics.
- 3 out of the 6 battles that they signed people they showed up. The other 6 battles are most likely your raids or attacks after the raid.
- no one from either side showed up
- 4 of the battles only 1 stark showed vs 0 Squids.

These are clearly pics from late 2014/ early 2015 when everyone thought Strat would end at any second and just prove that stark was more active then Squids but Squids where active.

Yes I understand this was starks glory days when they raided and pillaged the land in 3 v1 battles and why you are trying to keep it alive in your heart  :wink:
Title: Re: strategus and raid
Post by: Balikar on April 12, 2015, 04:13:32 pm
Squids, like many factions, lost interest by October.  They were extremely active, and to try to show them up as 'inactive' this round is a bad move. 

I'd have to warn you against poking sleeping bears.  If they wanted to, they could probably wipe Stark off the map in less than a month.  ;-) 
Title: Re: strategus and raid
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on April 12, 2015, 09:15:41 pm
None of the battles I pictured were raids actually. They were all real battles.

And the Squids being active is way better than them not being active, thats all I'm saying.