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Title: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Leshma on March 15, 2015, 01:47:22 am
It is the worst disease know to Calradian man. It literally, singlehandedly killed this mod day by of day of allowing that bullshit on servers.

No, I do not fucking appreciate when you ignore me on the battlefield because you fancy me for whatever reason. I'm not online to be fancied, I'm there to have fun playing the game the way it is meant to be played. If you are bored or annoyed with cRPG for whatever reason, please leave the server. I'll do the same if I notice this shit behavior, until there is less than 4 brocoders present on server where they can't get multi. But what multi, they don't need multi? They play for fun. Yer right...
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Leshma on March 15, 2015, 03:12:30 am
Mod can't be revived at this point. And it isn't crusade, just using my right to start topics and show my disgust at brocoding. Which is kinda stupid because forums are in state where I'm basically talking to myself...

Meh multi. That is rather easy to obtain, a bit harder to hold though. But again, you get it easy way. Not like I'm going to play competitive game modes while there are people brocoding.

Haven't you noticed that Krems are absent from DTV? That is perfect mode for them to express their love for different, more refreshing gameplay.

If it was about different gameplay and not actual hatred towards this community because "someone forced them" to invest 1000s hours into this mod and now they are entitled to ruin it for everybody else. This mod is consisted of 95% primadonas like that, I can spot my kind easily.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: //saxon on March 15, 2015, 03:19:15 am
http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/clanmate-trouble's/msg1120366/#msg1120366
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Molly on March 15, 2015, 09:05:42 am
It is the worst disease know to Calradian man. It literally, singlehandedly killed this mod day by of day of allowing that bullshit on servers.

No, I do not fucking appreciate when you ignore me on the battlefield because you fancy me for whatever reason. I'm not online to be fancied, I'm there to have fun playing the game the way it is meant to be played. If you are bored or annoyed with cRPG for whatever reason, please leave the server. I'll do the same if I notice this shit behavior, until there is less than 4 brocoders present on server where they can't get multi. But what multi, they don't need multi? They play for fun. Yer right...
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 15, 2015, 10:00:10 am
Mod can't be revived at this point. And it isn't crusade, just using my right to start topics and show my disgust at brocoding. Which is kinda stupid because forums are in state where I'm basically talking to myself...

Meh multi. That is rather easy to obtain, a bit harder to hold though. But again, you get it easy way. Not like I'm going to play competitive game modes while there are people brocoding.

Haven't you noticed that Krems are absent from DTV? That is perfect mode for them to express their love for different, more refreshing gameplay.

If it was about different gameplay and not actual hatred towards this community because "someone forced them" to invest 1000s hours into this mod and now they are entitled to ruin it for everybody else. This mod is consisted of 95% primadonas like that, I can spot my kind easily.

I hear ya, unfortunately it takes a full 2 ban posts on forums to get someone banned for pacifism while what we actually need is admins atleast playing a little bit so that they can ban brocoding. Like a year ago barabe scum were brocoding to the absolute max potential, nothing happened. And back then the servers were actually decently populated still, but no admins ofcourse.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Molly on March 15, 2015, 11:07:03 am
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General rules

    No exploiting of any kind
        NOT OK: Bypassing the autobalance
        NOT OK: Using a bug to gain undeserved benefits
        NOT OK: Leaving and rejoining to server to spawn more than once in a round
    No intentional teamwounding/teamkilling during a round (teamkilling friends after a round ends is allowed, teamkilling random people is not)
        NOT OK: killing the Viscount to change map
    No malicious griefing of teammates (kickspamming, blocking, etc.)
    No drawing/delaying the round on purpose (i.e. running away or camping unreachable places when you're one of the last people alive)
        OK: running away and shooting enemies that are reachable by projectiles
        NOT OK: running away or avoiding confrontation when there is nobody to shoot in range or everyone is behind cover.
        NOT OK: running away or avoiding confrontation to search for ammo

    No abuse of in-game chat (racism, insulting, griefing, spamming...)
    No random kick/ban polls. Always specify reason before starting a poll
        OK: poll-kicking a leecher
        OK: poll-kicking an intentional teamkiller
        NOT OK: poll-kicking someone who involuntarily hurt you
        NOT OK: poll-kicking someone because you don't like his playstyle
    No leeching
        OK: Being a bad player and getting no kills
        NOT OK: Standing around away from keyboard. If you're away, switch to spectator mode
        NOT OK: Running around without no weapon. Not contributing is leeching, naked runners don't contribute. This point does not apply to Rageball, as long as you are actually playing the game.
        NOT OK: Autorunning your char to enemy to die
    Glitching is allowed, being an asshat isn't
        OK: hiding (e.g. in the hay)
        NOT OK: hiding when last man standing (i.e. delaying)
        NOT OK: using a siege shield to reach a roof that can't be reached normally
        NOT OK: camping unreachable places
        NOT OK: exploiting invisible barriers
        NOT OK: going out of map bounds (if you can see unfinished parts of the map, then you should not be there)
        NOT OK: ladderpulting
    No siege equipment spam
        OK: Planting ladders to get to roofs or walls
        OK: Blocking a door with a construction site
        OK: Planting siege shields to provide cover from ranged fire
        NOT OK: Creating a weapon rack and spawning more than a few items to block movement
    If you're stuck, change team to spectators or rejoin the server, otherwise you will be considered a leecher.
I made the only usable part bold but I kinda don't see where it says bro-coding is a ban'able offense.

I kinda know where you're coming from with this but to say "BOOHOOO I WON'T PLAY ANY MORE CUZ BROCODING!" is just silly.
It used to worse when clan mates would give the last 2 of their clan free hits end round cuz they were in the losing team and got valour that way. That is/was exploiting in my book. Seen several times from Eques, Byz and Mercs (see the pattern there?)
Just giving the other guy a hug at round end is harmless and doesn't really hurt anyone when not overdone.

I certainly won't ban anyone for a harmless hug at the end. And when it takes too long I usually do a *cough* over admin chat and they get on with it. End of story.

Edit:
Also...
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 15, 2015, 11:18:48 am
I made the only usable part bold but I kinda don't see where it says bro-coding is a ban'able offense.

I kinda know where you're coming from with this but to say "BOOHOOO I WON'T PLAY ANY MORE CUZ BROCODING!" is just silly.
It used to worse when clan mates would give the last 2 of their clan free hits end round cuz they were in the losing team and got valour that way. That is/was exploiting in my book. Seen several times from Eques, Byz and Mercs (see the pattern there?)
Just giving the other guy a hug at round end is harmless and doesn't really hurt anyone when not overdone.

I certainly won't ban anyone for a harmless hug at the end. And when it takes too long I usually do a *cough* over admin chat and they get on with it. End of story.

Edit:
Also...

No way you saw byzantiums do that, our first prio was hunting eachother when put on different teams. Must've been done by some noname quick recruits then... I dont think i ever saw mercs do it either.

As for the rules, you missed the first big one, common sense. Barabe at one point were playing like 4 horse archers, one got switched, the others didnt attack him even though he was one of the last ones alive with nothing else to hunt him, he then shot their horses for free points and kept going untill out of arrows. If this isnt bannable i dont know what is, but like i said no admins on to enforce it. This was a long time a go though. Now we see some people just ignoring eachother as enemies, i dont see how this shouldnt be bannable because if i have a teammate by my side as im approaching an enemy, i will adapt and expect that teammate to help.

Hugging at the end is just beyond me, delays the game and this happens often enough to just make me GTX at first sight because it will not stop untill they leave. A casual hug once a week can be fine, but when you hug every single round for more than a minute, sometimes forcing people to watch because delaying.. i wish i had the banhammer in my inventory.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Utrakil on March 15, 2015, 12:07:00 pm
Quote from:  
General rules

    No exploiting of any kind
        NOT OK: Bypassing the autobalance
        NOT OK: Using a bug to gain undeserved benefits
        NOT OK: Leaving and rejoining to server to spawn more than once in a round
    No intentional teamwounding/teamkilling during a round (teamkilling friends after a round ends is allowed, teamkilling random people is not)
        NOT OK: killing the Viscount to change map
    No malicious griefing of teammates (kickspamming, blocking, etc.)
    No drawing/delaying the round on purpose (i.e. running away or camping unreachable places when you're one of the last people alive)
        OK: running away and shooting enemies that are reachable by projectiles
        NOT OK: running away or avoiding confrontation when there is nobody to shoot in range or everyone is behind cover.
        NOT OK: running away or avoiding confrontation to search for ammo
    No abuse of in-game chat (racism, insulting, griefing, spamming...)
    No random kick/ban polls. Always specify reason before starting a poll
        OK: poll-kicking a leecher
        OK: poll-kicking an intentional teamkiller
        NOT OK: poll-kicking someone who involuntarily hurt you
        NOT OK: poll-kicking someone because you don't like his playstyle
    No leeching
        OK: Being a bad player and getting no kills
        NOT OK: Standing around away from keyboard. If you're away, switch to spectator mode
        NOT OK: Running around without no weapon. Not contributing is leeching, naked runners don't contribute. This point does not apply to Rageball, as long as you are actually playing the game.
        NOT OK: Autorunning your char to enemy to die
    Glitching is allowed, being an asshat isn't
        OK: hiding (e.g. in the hay)
        NOT OK: hiding when last man standing (i.e. delaying)
        NOT OK: using a siege shield to reach a roof that can't be reached normally
        NOT OK: camping unreachable places
        NOT OK: exploiting invisible barriers
        NOT OK: going out of map bounds (if you can see unfinished parts of the map, then you should not be there)
        NOT OK: ladderpulting
    No siege equipment spam
        OK: Planting ladders to get to roofs or walls
        OK: Blocking a door with a construction site
        OK: Planting siege shields to provide cover from ranged fire
        NOT OK: Creating a weapon rack and spawning more than a few items to block movement
    If you're stuck, change team to spectators or rejoin the server, otherwise you will be considered a leecher.



Brocoding at the end is delaying even if it is not mentioned in the examples (examples are called examples because not every single thing is mentioned). It simply prolonges the round without fighting or anny atempt of killing the oponent.

Making a whole server waiting for the last ones to stop fucking around and ending the round is obviously griefing. (otherwise nobody would have to announce their grief on forum.)

So please if the rules are stated read them closely.

Now you can go on discussing whether the rules should be enforced or not.




Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: ImElias on March 15, 2015, 12:20:11 pm
Bro Coding is a fucking waste of time and should be bannable.

Scenarios of bro coding, that have been occurring for a long damn time now.

1. Group of players working together and fighting. Hostile player/s approach the group and suddenly half the group breaks off and watches the rest of the group fight. Afterwards the enemy and your supposedly teammates are standing by each other not doing any thing.

That is fucking unacceptable when you can't even count on your own teammates to play the game.

2. Majority of players die within the first two minutes. Now all that's left is a bunch of bundle of stickss who grab ass until the clock is down to one minute.

Really, this game is torn apart and going to hell each and every time these players get away with this nonsense. Melee Battlegrounds isn't going to become a game if the only people that know about are playing this! The population isn't dying because of the game being old, it's dying because no one can play the game while assholes are delaying the rounds and deliberately griefing against their own teammates.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Utrakil on March 15, 2015, 12:35:23 pm
we had the same discussion with the voicecommand spamming.
even though the rules clearly state:
 No abuse of in-game chat (racism, insulting, griefing, spamming...)
the group of people enjoying the voicespam was to big and supported by active admins.
for this reason the rules were never enforced and people who wanted something to be done were defamed.

Same goes with brocoding. As long as the offenders are sceaming louder than the silence minority that is annoyed by them nothing will be done.
Only possible way would be banposts for every single incident because admins can't really ignore them.
I myselve don't care enough to go trough the process of writing banposts but if somebody really wants to change something that is the way to go.


I guess we will enjoy the decay of this game in anarchy. Sad this is but there are simply not enough fucks given about this mod anymore.

Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Leshma on March 15, 2015, 02:25:07 pm
I kinda know where you're coming from with this but to say "BOOHOOO I WON'T PLAY ANY MORE CUZ BROCODING!" is just silly.

Silly? Aren't you the one who used to play this mod every goddamn day few years ago, just like 1000's other people. Did you play it because it was full of "fun" trolls or because there was a bunch of people who cared about gameplay?

You obviously seldom play it these days, even though you are part of marvelous Krems clan of fun. How come that happens, when you finally find a group of awesome people you stop regularly playing? Or maybe they are not as awesome as they think they are?
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Torben on March 15, 2015, 02:28:58 pm
lets all hug leshy when we see her on the field :D
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: //saxon on March 15, 2015, 02:40:03 pm
lets all hug leshy when we see him on the field :D
i think..?  :)
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Leshma on March 15, 2015, 03:21:15 pm
lets all hug leshy when we see her on the field :D

You can hug me in DTV all the time.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 15, 2015, 03:29:17 pm
Lol, more people than just Leshma *genuinely* believe that brocoding and chat spamming are the reason why the mod has fewer players now?

Ahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahah

Wow

I sure hope devs tackle this massive epidemic for M:BG, imagine if people joined that game and some people were hanging out with their mates, or spamming voice commands. I know i'd quit immediately in those circumstances, i can only imagine everyone else would do the same and that the game would SORELY miss our presence.

We all want to find reasons to the death of this mod and desperately counteract it, some think its balancing issues, others community toxicity. TBH, i dont think theres any other reason but age and boredom, which really cant be stopped. I always return even with delayers making me rq anyways.

So dont laugh, instead, appreciate the efforts of desperate people loving the mod T_T
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Molly on March 15, 2015, 03:55:00 pm
Silly? Aren't you the one who used to play this mod every goddamn day few years ago, just like 1000's other people. Did you play it because it was full of "fun" trolls or because there was a bunch of people who cared about gameplay?

You obviously seldom play it these days, even though you are part of marvelous Krems clan of fun. How come that happens, when you finally find a group of awesome people you stop regularly playing? Or maybe they are not as awesome as they think they are?
I play more or less daily atm. So there is that...

Gravoth, you're examples are extremes (HAs and such) and I don't think I see anything that stupid around atm. But I agree, that certainly would be a problem.
The thing is that we have 2 main groups of players: those who wanna take it serious and those who enjoy having a good time with "friends" in a multiplayer. Somehow we have to cope for both sides and find some middle ground here.
We can't just go on and ban everyone for hugging which honestly is for 10-20 seconds the most. Please, watch the timer next time it happens and you have to acknowledge that it's very very rarely 1 minute if even ever :wink:

Krems. Oh well, we tend to fool around quite often, yes. Some, cuz it ain't everyone, hug a lot, yes. Sometimes we roleplay silly stuff which annoys most of the server to several degrees, yes. We sometimes, it ain't all the time, spam voice chat, yes.
I am probably biased but it either doesn't happen that often (roleplaying) or doesn't last too long (voice spam, hugging). I am afraid that everything is most of time still in the framework of the rules and people have to somehow live with it.
Besides, there are 2 servers, battle and siege, and we can't be on both at the same time, so there is always a possibility to go to the other one temporarily.

That is my personal opinion. Technically I am not an admin, just an event manager :P Therefore I am most hesitant to ban anyone anyway but I do when I see it necessary. Mostly just kick tho...
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Kalp on March 15, 2015, 07:18:21 pm
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Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 15, 2015, 07:24:16 pm
If that person seriously wants the mod to continue as long as possible, trying to ban as many of the people who still play it as possible is misguided. Why would anyone who wants the mod to continue 'appreciate' that?

Whatever i think of balance and toxicity, let's be honest the mod had both of those issues 2-3 years ago when the population was far bigger. Age of mod and boredom are most likely the biggest factors.

But ofc, if the dwindling population thinks that it's productive to try and moan and ban what's left of the player-base then QQ about empty servers later, dont let me stand in the way of progress. We disagree about just about everything in terms of this mod, but even so i know you dont believe that brocoding killed the mod. For the sake of 'standards' you may want to support this thread and Leshma on this point, but in terms of the actual OP you know as well as i do that it's a load of bollocks.

On one side people getting banned are gone for the duration, but the people wanting them banned will stay for a longer time, some may even come back (i doubt its gone that far though). I think it would be +-0 in population tbh, i dont really want to get rid of people, as much as i might hate delaying etc i do love characters just out of nostalgia sake because most people here are very old school. I just wish there would be some reinforcing on not hugging when you are the last ones, not hiding in corners with a group and avoiding fighting at all cost. It may be fun to them but it really is on other peoples expense and experience most of the time.

When i die fighting with the main group of my team (outnumbered), and get to spectate 5 krems hugging in some far out ruins, i just hit esc and quit. While when everything rolls smoothly, no noticeable delaying etc, i can easily play for multiple hours straight.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Molly on March 15, 2015, 07:33:46 pm
So we gonna start banning people on a low pop server at round end for giving duels to the last guy?
Often enough even losing the round although ganking him to death would save 2 minutes waiting for the dead and win the round for the team?

Just to clarify that we're not measuring with different standards...
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 15, 2015, 07:46:51 pm
So we gonna start banning people on a low pop server at round end for giving duels to the last guy?
Often enough even losing the round although ganking him to death would save 2 minutes waiting for the dead and win the round for the team?

Just to clarify that we're not measuring with different standards...

Maybe not ban, but warn then kick. I never did like duels at the end, it encourages douchey playstyles taking no risks, then getting rewarded with duels when you probably have full health vs others who have fought and are down at half. It's been a thing since what, 2011? Atleast its more entertaining to watch compared to a pacifist hugging party, but if that would mean 2 minutes of watching duels, id rather not. If im the last person alive i personally prefer the challenge of being outnumbered anyways, duels are for the duel server. Hugging is for secondlife or something. Acknowledge someone on the battlefield with a good fight, not a bearhug.

2 minutes might not sound like much, but it adds up. And with the current pacifism/brocoding, its not uncommon with delays. It gets tedious.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Leshma on March 15, 2015, 07:47:45 pm
While we are at douchebag behavior topic, last night EU1 was "full" (40 people yay). Was there, having fun. All of a sudden HA douche started delaying. I've just left, couldn't bother arguing. Bet other players left because of that HA. How many players leaving the already low pop server do you guys find acceptable before you admit that one dude trolling is the problem and that he should be removed?
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: XyNox on March 15, 2015, 08:11:26 pm
While we are at douchebag behavior topic, last night EU1 was "full" (40 people yay). Was there, having fun. All of a sudden HA douche started delaying. I've just left, couldn't bother arguing. Bet other players left because of that HA. How many players leaving the already low pop server do you guys find acceptable before you admit that one dude trolling is the problem and that he should be removed?

I was at EU1 yesterday as well after a long time and its the same old story for years. I could shoot down any HA's horse with ease but I am too busy 90 % of the time defending myself in close combat from 2 - 4 gankers because there is close to no melee support and the team is running off somewhere else. It is still mindblowing to me that there are people after all these years who do not seem to grasp that "no melee support for friendly ranged" equals "getting trolled to death by HA/HX/HT at the end of the round".

But yeah, I forgot, defending ranged is not fun for melee because that would mean they would lose precious 30 seconds of the round that could have been invested in button-mash-time. But who knows, maybe if we give the playerbase another 4 years something will change.

(click to show/hide)

On topic though, brocoding deserves kicks or for repeated offenders, bans.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Utrakil on March 15, 2015, 08:54:28 pm
While we are at douchebag behavior topic, last night EU1 was "full" (40 people yay). Was there, having fun. All of a sudden HA douche started delaying. I've just left, couldn't bother arguing. Bet other players left because of that HA. How many players leaving the already low pop server do you guys find acceptable before you admit that one dude trolling is the problem and that he should be removed?
Since kicking the HA is against the rule there is one more way to get rid of them.
If everyone leaves the server as soon as a idiot HA starts doing his thing there will be no one for him to fight.
I am pretty shure he will not be there anymore when everybody reconnects some minutes later. 8-)
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: darmaster on March 15, 2015, 09:10:32 pm
Seen several times from Eques, Byz and Mercs (see the pattern there?)

hmm honestly never seen any of that from mercs or byzantium, and if that happened, it wasn't heavy brocoding, and, most importantly, it's never as annoying as it is nowdays, krems' fault; also i'd like to mention that krems weren't as retard as they are now back in the days, but i remember some complained about VERY FEW memebers being brain damaged, and there had been some sort of over reaction "WAAAAAA SORI NO F4N ALOUD? SORI ME NO GO WITH BRO MUG IS FUN 2OO ME FGGT XDXD LEZ OL PLEI SERIUS NO FUN ON LEE SERIUS" note that this might be actual quotes from krems member + grammar could also be more correct than the actual quotes.

seriously, i feel as if krems are to crpg what feminists are to the whole world
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Leshma on March 15, 2015, 09:41:35 pm
Only clan that I can be 100% sure that I have never witnessed brocoding is old HRE, while Rogue was still playing the mod. In the past brocoding wasn't even present. First time that I have noticed it and when it really annoyed me is when I started playing mod late at night with the likes of Fin and Shanks.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Hirlok on March 15, 2015, 11:54:34 pm
we should rebrand to ACTB - Always Code the Bro

Too bad I am so old and my eyes are so bad - sometimes shoot the "wrong" people from afar... ;-)
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: XyNox on March 16, 2015, 01:22:38 pm
Krems. Oh well, we tend to fool around quite often, yes. Some, cuz it ain't everyone, hug a lot, yes. Sometimes we roleplay silly stuff which annoys most of the server to several degrees, yes. We sometimes, it ain't all the time, spam voice chat, yes.

Besides, there are 2 servers, battle and siege, and we can't be on both at the same time, so there is always a possibility to go to the other one temporarily.

That is my personal opinion. Technically I am not an admin, just an event manager :P Therefore I am most hesitant to ban anyone anyway but I do when I see it necessary. Mostly just kick tho...

In that case you might want to consider getting your admin rights revoked so at least other admins can kick you when you decide to go on a troll session again so the rest can play uninterruptedly.

Telling other people that they can always change the server when they your trolling gets too much, lol. Are you for real ?
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Mr.K. on March 16, 2015, 02:42:22 pm
I was at EU1 yesterday as well after a long time and its the same old story for years. I could shoot down any HA's horse with ease but I am too busy 90 % of the time defending myself in close combat from 2 - 4 gankers because there is close to no melee support and the team is running off somewhere else.

I still do this with some good archers and I've seen few guys doing it with me as well when I play archer. I know Arn and Crojo do that with me regularly. However when I go stand next to an archer, yell QFR - QAC (For those who don't speak Krems, that's "Archers, attack their cavalry") and they just miss every shot or just shoot at friendly melee in the back I just run off and do something more useful. The more open the maps are, the more I try to help my archers as I know they can't survive otherwise.

That said, with ten riding, horses are hard to hit even with the recently buffed bows and shouldn't be a reason for HX/HA to delay every single round.


Back to the topic: Fuck the Krems.

Never seen Mercs or Byz brocoding and we don't usually do it either, exact opposite, cuz killing the "traitors" is a lot of fun :) Duels at the end of the round are fine imo, I enjoy watching skilled players fight so if it doesn't happen every round it's fine. I don't mind some fun during battles at all, but no one can honestly say that's what the Krems are trying to do. Most of these guys weren't good enough to actually perform well in this game anymore and didn't want to quit either so instead they started to troll people. I understand raging people and chat/forum trolls like Xesta and GTX, but I just can't understand people who get enjoyment from "roleplaying" woodsmen at spawn.

The reasons why this shouldn't be allowed have been stated many times before and whatever these guys tell to justify their actions, it actually is quite often so infuriating that I just have to quit and do something else. And I know for a fact that a lot of the guys that sit in our TS feel the exact same way. As Gravoth already said: if us tryhards play the game for 15 minutes instead of two hours, the mod will have a lot less players. It's not just those five Krems guys off the battle, it's the tryhards that rage-quit.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Mr.K. on March 16, 2015, 05:46:47 pm
The rest are all pretty decent players, including but not limited to Fin, Fuma and Xanor.

Fuma used to be one of the best players in this mod which makes it even worse that he got bored of it and became a Krem. He's a good guy and I've talked to him many times on TS, but that doesn't mean I think it's okay for him to do what he sometimes does on EU1. Xanor I've never seen chopping wood or hugging other players at spawn. Even Fin is a non-troll by today's Krems standards, same as Shanks for example. So called trolls like Fin or Shanks can be extremely fun to watch and they rarely do worse than average players in their team - most of the time these guys are not a problem at least not for me.

Then there's the genuinely bad players that followed them to feel special when they lacked the skill or imagination to actually be special.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: zottlmarsch on March 16, 2015, 06:05:29 pm
Fuma used to be one of the best players in this mod which makes it even worse that he got bored of it and became a Krem. He's a good guy and I've talked to him many times on TS, but that doesn't mean I think it's okay for him to do what he sometimes does on EU1. Xanor I've never seen chopping wood or hugging other players at spawn. Even Fin is a non-troll by today's Krems standards, same as Shanks for example. So called trolls like Fin or Shanks can be extremely fun to watch and they rarely do worse than average players in their team - most of the time these guys are not a problem at least not for me.

Then there's the genuinely bad players that followed them to feel special when they lacked the skill or imagination to actually be special.

Krems were playing crap and trolling for well over a year before Fin, Shanks or Fuma joined. But because we had so few members and the servers were so full nobody cared. Todays Krems members are probably less trolly than what we were in 2012, its just that theres a hell of a lot more of us and the servers are a lot more empty so their actions have bigger consequences on the outcome of rounds.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Falka on March 16, 2015, 06:07:03 pm
Game is too dead for hugs, so no more hugs from me.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Utrakil on March 16, 2015, 06:13:29 pm
Krems were playing crap and trolling for well over a year before Fin, Shanks or Fuma joined. But because we had so few members and the servers were so full nobody cared. Todays Krems members are probably less trolly than what we were in 2012, its just that theres a hell of a lot more of us and the servers are a lot more empty so their actions have bigger consequences on the outcome of rounds.
So considering this you might for the sake of the modsurvival rethink your Clans attitude now.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: zottlmarsch on March 16, 2015, 06:16:38 pm
So considering this you might for the sake of the modsurvival rethink your Clans attitude now.

Sure, Speak with one of the active leaders tho. I don't play anymore or do anything really with the leadership of the clan.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Leshma on March 16, 2015, 07:04:25 pm
Krems were playing crap and trolling for well over a year before Fin, Shanks or Fuma joined.

Krems didn't exist when Fin and Shanks were playing crap and trolling, under their respective clans DoG and SoA. You and Phil were never on their level of trolling, even when you tried. I remember you guys playing with Tomas and Berenger ages ago and you were never annoying as you wanted to make an impression. Even now, whenever I see you on server you actually play the game and Phil trolls in a very constructive way (if I can say that). You guys aren't Fin and Shanks, they are on completely different level and they do their shit on purpose for past five years.

Even Zlisch, who was the most annoying person ever was disgusted by things Shanks did sometimes. And he did complain to me.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 16, 2015, 07:51:05 pm
I have great tryhard solution, make EU2/NA2 influence your K/D also. And then, unless your K/D is at least 10/1 you are not good enough to be allowed in Eu1/NA1 because you are deemed to be merely 'average' or worse... 'below average' and not fit to compete in battle where only the most COMMITTED players are welcome. Also you are not allowed to view, post, or contribute to polls on the game balance discussion board unless your K/D is 20/1 minimum because everyone knows only players who have a SWEET K/D on a single class are truly qualified to decide cRPG balance and policy.

I dont see how thats a tryhard solution, you cant minmax tryhard without peasants and scrubs to hunt. You still have a lot to learn. And anyways, commitment=/=contribution. It never was about people playing poorly, but about how people dont play at all.

If you are bad at the game it will feel unfair, and so you will have a completely different look on it compared to someone who is experienced with it. That doesnt mean their opinion is unwanted, but it generally has no real base, since the problem is with the players skill. Some try to get better, some try to get the game to adapt to their current skill.

(no heskey it is cos you are bad player and are just relieved they aren't trying to kill you, git good nab you secretly want to tryhard too).

I came.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: ImElias on March 17, 2015, 04:08:52 am
Brocoders don't delay, just look.

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Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 17, 2015, 06:14:59 pm
I have the power of prophesy, I post it so you don't have to.

I felt a hint of truth in it, enough to satisfy my superiority complex..
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Ras_FrenzYYY on March 20, 2015, 04:54:13 am
You can hug me in DTV all the time.


Thats a f**** lie you dont even talk to me
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Leshma on March 20, 2015, 01:21:48 pm

Thats a f**** lie you dont even talk to me

Maybe because I'm busy fighting or reading forums while waiting for respawn. Only player I ignore is Rapo, because he is kinda annoying.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Utrakil on March 30, 2015, 02:33:21 pm
Just logged into EU1.
first thing I see is this.
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 the three form a parade to go to the flag together.
After all I hear is voicecommandspam.
Got killed by ranged
RQ
Thanks for killing it.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Utrakil on March 30, 2015, 03:27:53 pm
You are welcome.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 30, 2015, 04:15:18 pm
You know when you start to chuckle a bit, but you're at work so you try and hold it back, but that just makes it funnier and you start properly laughing out loud uncontrollably?

That post made me laugh way too much

You should be working!

God i wish i could browse forums at my work... well, actually i could, i just need to ditch my good ol' button phone from 2k3.
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: zottlmarsch on March 30, 2015, 11:51:17 pm
And you wonder why i dwell the forums so much, fuck the forum when it's the weekend but midweek it's a tab i nearly always have open to browse when i got moment or if i forgot my earphones for lunch break. CRPG forum is best game cos you can play it at work.

So true,  :D
Title: Re: Fuck brocoding
Post by: Oberyn on April 01, 2015, 01:17:20 am
I make it a point to try and take down any Mercs on opposite team usually. Fucking traitors, daring to be on the team that I'm not on.