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cRPG => cRPG Technical problems => Topic started by: Fips on May 22, 2011, 11:01:48 pm

Title: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on May 22, 2011, 11:01:48 pm
Weird Problem: Regularly i get connection problems ingame that raise my ping up to 800 and they last like 20 seconds.
Only got 368dsl (=dl 45kb/sec) which is in most cases the problem. But this time there is noone else in our home-network (Which is the reason for most of my laggs, but i checked that many times when those laggs occur) and there is absolutely no program that should download anything.

But still, NetMeter tells me that there are downloads and they can only be from the game itself. Wtf can i do about this?


Btw, as i said, usually i download with 45kb/sec...maps at cRPG only download with a speed of 20kb/sec and the DL-Rate ingame is also around 20kb/sec if i start playing.

Srsly...this is so fucking annoying.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on May 30, 2011, 08:35:06 pm
*bump*

Some friends mentioned it could have something to do with my graphic card, which got up to 110°C sometimes even at M&B.
Well, now that i got a new one and those lags still occur...srsly...WTF IS WRONG? ;____;
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on June 04, 2011, 04:44:08 pm
Low Res Textures + windowed mode helped. =)
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on June 10, 2011, 02:08:44 pm
They are back. And they are pissing me off seriously.
I didnt change anything in the settings. Wtf is wrong with this game.

I don't know why the game downloads "stuff" ingame, but it does. And it's totally random.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: zagibu on June 10, 2011, 02:27:15 pm
I also get huge lags sometimes, where I can still see everyone playing, but if I try to move, I am just pulled back to the old position. Then after a few seconds, everyone else starts moving in a straight direction (even through air), and shortly after, it either resolves itself (with me being dead, of course, because for other players I was probably standing around idle), or I get a disconnect.

The game also randomly crashes with some kind of error message I don't see (because it is still drawing on the screen, over the message box). I know there is a message box, because I hear the windows error sound, and if I hit enter, the game closes.

Then I also get some 1-second lags sometimes, especially cool in a tight melee situation of course.

Lastly, I often get strange freezes, where the last two frames are repeated indefinately. I can ctrl-esc out and in and it is resolved, but yeah, I stand around during those 10-20 seconds, and of course usually get killed.

I have no idea what it could be, as all other games work fine. I will check if those things happen in native, too, sometime.

They are back. And they are pissing me off seriously.
I didnt change anything in the settings. Wtf is wrong with this game.

I don't know why the game downloads "stuff" ingame, but it does. And it's totally random.

I don't think it's downloading stuff. The increased bandwidth usage might be the game trying to resynch with the server.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on June 10, 2011, 02:43:29 pm
Did not played Native for a long time, but i don't remember laggs like that. With Fire and Sword is in MP fine, too.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on June 13, 2011, 08:47:14 pm
*bump*
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on June 20, 2011, 03:02:07 pm
C'mon... :cry:
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on June 30, 2011, 04:55:07 pm
Goddamn it.  :evil:
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Christo on June 30, 2011, 04:59:10 pm
Try to run the game in "troubleshooting&safe" DX7 mode.

If your problems happen even on DX7, we can't do much.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on June 30, 2011, 05:09:20 pm
I ran the game with the lowest settings possible and they still occured. Less, but just as annoying as with best settings.

C'mon...u can't be serious. I can run every game online without any laggs, as long as there is noone else in the net. But cRPG just keeps on lagging and lagging and lagging...
There has to be something else i can do.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Christo on June 30, 2011, 07:28:06 pm
What is your computer specs?

Let me know.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Digglez on June 30, 2011, 08:39:19 pm
*bump*

Some friends mentioned it could have something to do with my graphic card, which got up to 110°C sometimes even at M&B.
Well, now that i got a new one and those lags still occur...srsly...WTF IS WRONG? ;____;

I assume you mean 110°F because that hot celsius because 110°C would melt your computer.  Also 110°F isnt that bad for a video card.  I would start to get concerned when its going past 120-125°F.


Do you play other FPS games?  Do they lag?

You havent mentioned anything about updating drivers or what video card your using.

Have you tried unchecking or checking 'load textures on demand'.  It worked great for my card, but most clanmates it gave them MORE problems.

Also you're not really explaining the problem very well.  Are you STUTTERING or LAGGING.

Stuttering = complete freeze and lockup for a second or two when something big happens.

Lagging = temporary freeze than every goes super speed like 3 stooges to catch up, rubber banding.  ALso usually see ping in score jumping around all over the place.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Christo on June 30, 2011, 09:39:03 pm
Well, until we get your specs, some basic tips:


Download Rivatuner/EVGA Precision/Any VGA app, and increase fan speed to 80%.

Also, you can try to increase the buffer_size in Warband, so it shouldn't get overloaded. Here's how:

Go to your documents, find the Warband folder.

Open the TXT file called: rgl_config. Search for this line:

"Render_Buffer_Size"

If I am correct, warband uses a small buffer, you should try to increase it to 50% of your VGA ram for a good start.

Can't help much until you post specs mate.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on June 30, 2011, 11:47:16 pm
I assume you mean 110°F because that hot celsius because 110°C would melt your computer.  Also 110°F isnt that bad for a video card.  I would start to get concerned when its going past 120-125°F.


Do you play other FPS games?  Do they lag?

You havent mentioned anything about updating drivers or what video card your using.

Have you tried unchecking or checking 'load textures on demand'.  It worked great for my card, but most clanmates it gave them MORE problems.

Also you're not really explaining the problem very well.  Are you STUTTERING or LAGGING.

Stuttering = complete freeze and lockup for a second or two when something big happens.

Lagging = temporary freeze than every goes super speed like 3 stooges to catch up, rubber banding.  ALso usually see ping in score jumping around all over the place.

No...it showed me the temperature in °C.

FPS= First Person Shooter?
Yeah, played CS:S for a very long time, Battlefield 2 and other Stuff and they all worked pretty good for me. Well...as long as i am the only one using the interwebz. But i checked that many times while playing cRPG.

Specs: Got a Intel Core 2Duo E8500, 8gb RAM and an ATI Radeon HD 6870. Anyhting else u'd like to know?

And of course, everything is updated. Also tried most of the settings. Nothing really changed anything.

And i am definitely lagging. I had some trouble with the fps dropping to 20 or 30 as well, but that does not happen a lot.
Ping goes up to 500 or 600, Download- and Upload-Rate increases (Always running NetMeter while playing cRPG) and sometimes i get those lagfreezes that zagibu described. Longest one was 2 min and 20 seconds long.

@Christo: Thx, i'll try that.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Christo on June 30, 2011, 11:54:51 pm
Man, now that's weird.

You have about 2x better specs than me (and I'm using a dying back-up HDD from 2004), and you have these problems.

Let's see if those methods help you, then I'll think further.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Digglez on July 01, 2011, 06:45:42 am
netmeter is a useless program if you are running vista or 7, they have built in programs to do it. hell it could even be causing network problems.

I'd also disable any security software you have and see what happens.  TrendMicro & Microsoft security essentials are about the only userful ones out there, if you dont have either of them, it could be your security software fucking with game.


task manager > performance tab > resource monitor

sort networking by total bytes/second to see if something is using your connection


I would check your programs for 'pando media booster' which is a notorious game download streamer that ends up using your connection like a bit torrent and rapes your ping.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on July 01, 2011, 01:16:50 pm
Seems like Christos little trick helped.
Played for 2 hours straight without laggs.

Buuut...i had such times as well before i did it. Hopefully i don't have to bump this thread anymore :D

Thx Christo.  :mrgreen: +1
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Digglez on July 01, 2011, 01:34:30 pm
strange I dont even see that file in my warband directory (show hidden files is on).  only thing close is rpl log file
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Christo on July 01, 2011, 02:43:49 pm
strange I dont even see that file in my warband directory (show hidden files is on).  only thing close is rpl log file

It's in your documents, and not the "main" warband directory.  :wink:

Seems like Christos little trick helped.
Played for 2 hours straight without laggs.

Buuut...i had such times as well before i did it. Hopefully i don't have to bump this thread anymore :D

Thx Christo.  :mrgreen: +1

 8-) I'm glad that it helped you. Have fun.  :)
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on July 01, 2011, 09:24:35 pm
They are back ._.

Hm...i try to raise that number a little more. Maybe 50 is not enough.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on July 01, 2011, 11:37:26 pm
Hahaha. I forgot that steam updated warband today and also changed the file back to the buffer size of 15.
So the laggs probably occured after it got switched back to 15.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on July 04, 2011, 05:00:17 pm
Seems like it get's changed back to 15 after/before every start of the game. Has nothing to do with the steam-update.
Is there any way to prevent that? Or do i have to change it every time before i start the game? ._.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: El_Infante on July 04, 2011, 06:27:14 pm
Right click on warband properties on steam -> updates -> disable automatic updating.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on July 05, 2011, 12:40:54 am
Still 15, when i check it after i played it.^^
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on July 05, 2011, 07:05:20 pm
Well...after playing some time with a different buffer size...it didnt helped at all.  :(
Maybe those hours without laggs were just random.

I'm a hopeless case, i guess.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on July 14, 2011, 11:09:57 pm
FUCK U CRPG, FUCK U!  :evil:

WHY DO U HAVE TO BE SO AWESOME BUT YET LAGGY LIKE HELL?  :evil:
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Jeade on July 14, 2011, 11:17:25 pm
Alright, so I was having the same problem everyone else was having with these lag spikes. I fixed it.
Here's how:

Don't use Steam.

Go to TaleWorld, download the non-Steam version. Install and there you go. Worked for me, anyway!
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Digglez on July 15, 2011, 02:17:29 am
Alright, so I was having the same problem everyone else was having with these lag spikes. I fixed it.
Here's how:

Don't use Steam.

Go to TaleWorld, download the non-Steam version. Install and there you go. Worked for me, anyway!

try a verify file integrity on your Steam warband and play it a bit, see what happens.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Jeade on July 15, 2011, 05:14:39 am
try a verify file integrity on your Steam warband and play it a bit, see what happens.
Yeah, been there, done that.

I just had my first crash on the non-Steam copy though. It wasn't the C++ crash, either, but instead the newest one where the audio loops and screen flips between two frames.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on July 17, 2011, 12:55:28 pm
I think it's even worse now, lol.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Christo on July 17, 2011, 02:06:22 pm
Well, at least for me, I think this is map related.

Some custom town maps do this for me, while big open maps are fine with 120 people.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on July 17, 2011, 04:01:30 pm
Well, at least for me, I think this is map related.

Some custom town maps do this for me, while big open maps are fine with 120 people.

Yeah, it is. On some the ping went up to 1000, on others "only" 500.   :?
But those lagspikes can occur on every map.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on August 17, 2011, 10:36:53 pm
I'm totally sick of this. I can't do shit while i am lagging like that and when it finally stops lagging i am in most cases dead. Even as an archer now.
It is map- and server-related, but it can happen everywhere. And it's the upload-rate which fucks the game up (I checked that now...download is never the reason for those laggs). Settings do NOT matter. I can play on the highest settings for hours (Ok, that is a really rare case...) without lagg or with dx7 and all that low shit and i can't play 1 minute without moonwalking through calradia.

But why the hell is the upload-rate so freakin high sometimes? I just don't get it. Shogun 2 works fine online, css, tf2, all those mmorpgs i played are fine, too.
Fyi: My Upload is 5kb/sec or so (Dunno exactly) and everytime the laggs occur the upload goes up to that maximum.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on August 22, 2011, 10:36:55 pm
Bump.
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Fips on August 31, 2011, 08:54:40 pm
OMFG!  :evil:

My sister used our w-lan connection with her cell-phone to go on facebook. I can't fuckin believe it. Found that out by accidently looking at the wlan-connections at the router.  :evil:

 :evil: :evil: :evil:

So we're done here. -.-
Title: Re: Laggs when there shouldn't be any
Post by: Blackzilla on September 01, 2011, 02:47:47 am
strange I dont even see that file in my warband directory (show hidden files is on).  only thing close is rpl log file
You haft to search it from the documents section.