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Title: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: lombardsoup on November 16, 2014, 12:25:24 am
 :lol:

Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Utrakil on November 16, 2014, 02:21:57 am
I had a good laugh when I read about it today.
Unbelivable what kind of bad informed people are allowed to govern whole states.
It would be much more funny if it wouldn't be so sad at the same time.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Christo on November 16, 2014, 02:49:45 am
 :lol:
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Kalam on November 16, 2014, 07:34:45 am
I had a good laugh when I read about it today.
Unbelivable what kind of bad informed people are allowed to govern whole states.
It would be much more funny if it wouldn't be so sad at the same time.

It's not always stupidity. There's a possibility that they're lying for votes.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Kirman on November 16, 2014, 08:38:01 am
Well, at least everyone can see what kind of bullshit we are dealing with. I would like to see Erdogan dies painfully but on the other side, i really enjoy this comedy  :lol:
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Tibe on November 16, 2014, 11:18:11 am
Turkey has really gone to shit recently hasnt it.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: LordBerenger on November 16, 2014, 11:33:38 am
Erdogan confirmed 2 be next Harun Yahya


Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: pepejul on November 16, 2014, 11:41:19 am
America has been dicovered by native indians in Neolithic times.....

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http://coursesite.uhcl.edu/HSH/Whitec/ximages/mapsglobes/northam/AmerindMaps.html

 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Kafein on November 16, 2014, 02:38:38 pm
Well, America was discovered by Asians first.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Tore on November 16, 2014, 02:39:14 pm
America was discovered by Leif Eiriksson

NORGE NORGE NORGE NORGE NORGE

Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Swaggart on November 16, 2014, 03:45:33 pm
Did he say this from his new 1000 room palace? Swanky shit for a guy that's supposed to be holding a largely ceremonial role.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 16, 2014, 04:21:20 pm
That is the kind of shit we have to take every fucking single day. Not that he is a clever man (I am sure he has serious mental issues actually), but he says this shit only to change the agenda. Recently we had yet another disasterous mining accident and I believe he wanted it to be forgotten.

He is known to frequently resort to ridiculous shittalk whenever the news on the agenda is hot and needs to be extinguished before it spreads.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Christo on November 16, 2014, 04:46:03 pm
No wonder he and Orbán are in good relations.

Both are aging, backwards, delusional cunts.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on November 16, 2014, 04:56:59 pm
America has been dicovered by native indians in Neolithic times.....

not white enough; doesn't count
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Havoco on November 16, 2014, 05:59:50 pm
Maybe romans, templars, and viking count then. Well at least if u believe the history channel programs lol.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: lombardsoup on November 16, 2014, 06:23:21 pm
Maybe romans, templars, and viking count then. Well at least if u believe the history channel programs lol.

Might as well be History's Ancient ALIENS since Erdoğan isn't grounded in reality
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Casimir on November 16, 2014, 06:24:46 pm
another thing we can blame on muslims then

lol
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: pepejul on November 16, 2014, 06:31:55 pm
not "muslims"... just some fools..... who cares about their religion ?
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Kirman on November 16, 2014, 09:18:26 pm
At least we didn't lose internet(yet).


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Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Xant on November 17, 2014, 04:35:18 am
not "muslims"... just some fools..... who cares about their religion ?
Synonyms
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Sparvico on November 17, 2014, 05:07:19 am
At least we didn't lose internet(yet).


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The french have a word for this. Guillotine, or some such spelling. I'm not french.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: pepejul on November 17, 2014, 09:44:31 am
Perfect spelling :
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Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Molly on November 17, 2014, 09:52:39 am
Saw a little report about it yesterday in the news :lol:

The faces of the other guests when he says this with a serious face - priceless.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Turkhammer on November 17, 2014, 05:02:21 pm
America has been dicovered by native indians in Neolithic times.....

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http://coursesite.uhcl.edu/HSH/Whitec/ximages/mapsglobes/northam/AmerindMaps.html

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How can they have been native Indians?  Did they come from India?  I think more correctly, they'd have been native Asians.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Nehvar on November 17, 2014, 05:27:09 pm
I'm not exactly sure who got here first but we have neolithic migration from both the west (Asia) as well as the east (what is now France) according to the most recent research on native American tool technology; as both stone-inlaid horn/bone weapons (neolithic Asia) and grooved flint spearheads (neolithic France) have been found by archaeologists.  Either way, both peoples arrived here long before their more modern counterparts.  Something like twenty thousand years ago. 

The credit for the next group of people to "find" America goes to the native Japanese who, fleeing volcanic activity, found their way to the South Americas about 2000BC.  After that things get a little muddy.  We've discovered what appear to be peleponesian remains off the coast of California, suggesting that the ancient Greeks somehow made it here.  Then there's Leif Erikson, which is the only one of the above I remember being mentioned in grade school.  There's also evidence of Hebrews somewhere though I've completely forgot what that was.

So yeah, Columbus day is silly and that Turk politician is a fucking moron.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Kafein on November 17, 2014, 06:28:54 pm
How can they have been native Indians?  Did they come from India?  I think more correctly, they'd have been native Asians.

Native Americans are literally Asian immigrants. Just like Asians are literally African immigrants. Although of course the meaning of those words today has almost nothing in common with the actual people living in those regions back then. Want a fun fact? The first settlers on Madagascar and current day Malagasy are actually Austronesian immigrants.

The credit for the next group of people to "find" America goes to the native Japanese who, fleeing volcanic activity, found their way to the South Americas about 2000BC.  After that things get a little muddy.  We've discovered what appear to be peleponesian remains off the coast of California, suggesting that the ancient Greeks somehow made it here.  Then there's Leif Erikson, which is the only one of the above I remember being mentioned in grade school.  There's also evidence of Hebrews somewhere though I've completely forgot what that was.

Japanese, Hebrews and Greeks? Any sources? The wikipedia article cites other mostly doubtful alleged contacts (with the exception of the Greenland Norse): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Columbian_trans-oceanic_contact
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: BattalGazi on November 17, 2014, 08:04:56 pm
I'm tired of this moron and his moron comrades making a fool of the country and screwing its already fragile image. Everyday I question how could I be that different from these guys and the group they represent, and how I could co-exist with those morons in the same country. Then I remember some famous quote going similar like democracy works against the good will of the country if it is given to ignorant and uneducated people. And then I feel like, maybe that's what the country actually deserves. But then become sad that my country actually deserves much better than this, and and for losing good people, resources and time with unnecessary struggles.

Sad stuff
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Torost on November 18, 2014, 06:24:14 pm
This is too funny, literally laughing my ass off.

Everyone knows the egyptians went there first. 2500 BC! just look at the pyriamids. For ISIS!
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Nehvar on November 18, 2014, 07:13:56 pm
Japanese, Hebrews and Greeks? Any sources? The wikipedia article cites other mostly doubtful alleged contacts (with the exception of the Greenland Norse): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Columbian_trans-oceanic_contact

Can't help you there as I can't remember the source and I just can't find the motivation to go scouring in the internet right now.  I do know the issues are controversial and not yet accepted by the scientific community though, I can remember that much.  The only thing I can expand on beyond what I already posted is the evidence found regarding Japanese migration.

*There is a people in South American who either all look Asian or a substantial percentage of the populace looks Asian.  (Can't remember their name, sorry.)
*Pottery examples from these people dating back to around 2000bc match those of Japan from the same period.
*Analysis of mummified remains (mummified by the dryness of the Atacama Desert--scientific luck-out there) revealed that they suffered from a blood disease which is unique to one of the Japanese islands.

These three points, at least for me, indicate pretty strongly that the Japanese migrated to South America in pre-Columbian times.  Oh, and the reason for the migration is believed to have been a volcanic eruption that occurred in the same time-frame.

Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on November 18, 2014, 07:51:42 pm
Sad stuff

If this happened in my own country I would be really upset. It's funny but god damn. Even if a position like that is supposed to be a figurehead with no real power... you don't someone who will make your country look bad. And this guy makes Turkey look really bad.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 18, 2014, 08:29:09 pm
The position itself may be ceremonial, but that fucktard is still the fucking head of state. The new pathetic prime minister is just one of his doggies on the leash. Turkey is kind of like a monarchy here. It is just him. The rest are there to do his bidding.

About the getting angry part; like I said, we have to put up with this shit every single day. He has been doing it for the past 12 years. Go have a talk with one of his unbelievably moronic supporters and you soon realize how fucking helpless you are. Think about some 15-20 million copies of this fucktard. With their unquestioning and indifferent support, the deluded bastard has already convinced himself that he is some kind of comical demigod that can do and say any ridiculous shit he likes.

It is fucking tough being a Turk with thinking capabilities nowadays. Tougher than ever. You guys can only have a remotely relevant idea.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: BattalGazi on November 18, 2014, 08:56:35 pm
Yea reading these stories from news or forums can only entertain you, or at most make you feel a bit sad (if you actually care). Turkish nation is undergoing a terrible phase where the educated and uneducated, rich and poor gap is widening very fast. Somehow the morality within the society collapsed (or deliberately destroyed) and nothing seems to hold these erdogan supporters back and judge his actions anymore. This big supporter group, who are acclaimed to be conservative muslims, are ignoring all these immoral acts taken by erdogan's party eventhough most of these acts are clearly against islamic philosophy. Then you stop and think, which last resort actually can help these supporters to understand what is really happening, if not education or as I said, religion - which is a primitive society moral control.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on November 19, 2014, 07:08:17 am
Yeah that's bad times. What surprised me is how long his list of goofball errors is. He isn't currently losing his mind... this shit been going on for more than a decade. hnnnnnngggggg
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Molly on November 19, 2014, 07:15:37 am
But he's building so many nice things:

- Mosque with the tallest Minarette in the world
- 3rd Bosporus bridge between Yrup and Asia
- big-ass Istanbul airport

and he offered to build a Mosque on Cuba now since they kinda discovered it. Seems like a proper nice guy to me :lol:

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Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Kirman on November 19, 2014, 07:20:25 am
Well...

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Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Christo on November 19, 2014, 07:33:09 am
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Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Lars on November 19, 2014, 08:05:35 am
 Back in the days some companies of nordic  travellers were the first westerners to set foot in America. Those guys liked to party very much, but the skraelings( native americans) did not allow the northerners to enter in their nightclubs, shortly after the northern folks started rioting, so the skraelings got very pissed and at the end they ate the nordic  boys, after  having cooked  them in a big pan.

Several centuries later, a group of  well dressed (well some of them) europeans  arrived in America, those westerners won immediately  the hearts of the natives, who liked the euro's clothes and horses very much, shortly after they became good friends and lived happily together, until a bunch of greasy bearded muslims started shouting allauh akbar.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Sparvico on November 19, 2014, 01:33:30 pm
Back in the days some companies of nordic  travellers were the first westerners to set foot in America. Those guys liked to party very much, but the skraelings( native americans) did not allow the northerners to enter in their nightclubs, shortly after the northern folks started rioting, so the skraelings got very pissed and at the end they ate the nordic  boys, after  having cooked  them in a big pan.

Several centuries later, a group of  well dressed (well some of them) europeans  arrived in America, those westerners won immediately  the hearts of the natives, who liked the euro's clothes and horses very much, shortly after they became good friends and lived happily together, until a bunch of greasy bearded muslims started shouting allauh akbar.

Extremely accurate and well explained. 10/10, I no longer need to take that Americas History class at the college.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Utrakil on November 22, 2014, 11:26:20 pm
You poor turks I really feel for you. Your country is going down.
http://rt.com/news/205455-turkey-genitalia-replaced-ducklings/ (http://rt.com/news/205455-turkey-genitalia-replaced-ducklings/)
Title: Erdogan strikes again...
Post by: Andswaru on November 24, 2014, 06:30:53 pm
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30183711

Just because he was bored and avoiding the headlines hes come out with a new amazing piece of wisdom.
Title: Re: Erdogan strikes again...
Post by: Algarn on November 24, 2014, 06:34:10 pm
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30183711

Just because he was bored and avoiding the headlines hes come out with a new amazing piece of wisdom.

Rest in pieces turkey. I loved your kebabs.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Panos_ on November 24, 2014, 06:45:36 pm
Sad thing is that anatolians support Erdogan, while the Turks of minor Asia and Constantinople, hate him.

Anatolian Turks are the reason that Turkey will never join the EU. Having visited both Constantinople and Ankara, the differences are enormous, the first ones are 100% Europeans with European attitude, while the second ones tend to be more allahu akbar fanatics, rather than civilized peoples.

I personally think that Erdogan did some good things for Turkey, but none the less he is a bad leader, and he keeps on bullying Cyprus.
Title: Re: Erdogan strikes again...
Post by: Molly on November 24, 2014, 07:50:38 pm
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30183711

Just because he was bored and avoiding the headlines hes come out with a new amazing piece of wisdom.
Yea, that's another piece of art.

Especially when he talks about kissing his mother's feet and how he would say "Don't pull away your feet from me - they smell like heaven" or some such when she felt it was weird :lol:
He's quoting some Mohammed stuff in that context. Apparently the Quoran has some part where Mohammed says something like " The best of heaven lies at the feet of mothers."...

Jesus, this guy...  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 24, 2014, 09:08:10 pm
I personally think that Erdogan did some good things for Turkey, but none the less he is a bad leader, and he keeps on bullying Cyprus.

How so? By defying Atatürk? He literally dropped a big steaming pile of shit on this country. He robbed, decomposed, disrupted, screwed and tore it apart. Whatever good things you may have spotted, those could have happened under any given government without making any special efforts.

If he isn't washed away just like the filth he is, the snackbar shit will swallow Anatolia and Europe will be the next on the list. What baffles me is that Europe has never seemed to foresee that much. They are only involved in utilizing that wretched corrupt living thing (something but not a human for sure) as long as they deem it feasible. After all, they all know about his dirty laundry and can even bring him before the international court of justice any given time. But why the fuck should they? Just use him until he is no longer usable.

History records this shit. History records how the world remains indifferent to it on purpose.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Dezilagel on November 24, 2014, 09:50:27 pm

Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: pepejul on November 24, 2014, 09:52:01 pm
sounds like "The simpsons" lOL
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Kirman on November 25, 2014, 09:39:00 pm
You poor turks I really feel for you. Your country is going down.
http://rt.com/news/205455-turkey-genitalia-replaced-ducklings/ (http://rt.com/news/205455-turkey-genitalia-replaced-ducklings/)

Hahahaha i didn't hear about this...


On a serious part, we really need to get rid of Erdogan. I mean it's been fuckin 12 years. I didn't have a chance to see something different. If voting doesn't work there are other ways. For example my college is heating up more every day. Police waiting at the entrance every single day, ready with their tear gas, searching everyone and every backpack they see.. But at cafeteria there are Erdogan's photos everywhere named ''[H]itlerdogan''. For example; yesterday i heard someone yelling at police like ''You can't come here with your brain so you use your helmets'' I would like to see that rage on the streets not only at my college... Yes, i can easily leave my country and move to Europe but that's not what i want...

Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Utrakil on November 25, 2014, 09:52:46 pm
''You can't come here with your brain so you use your helmets''
This is so beautiful!  :lol:
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Kafein on November 25, 2014, 10:31:17 pm
Yes, i can easily leave my country and move to Europe but that's not what i want...

Well, we need you here :)

How so? By defying Atatürk? He literally dropped a big steaming pile of shit on this country. He robbed, decomposed, disrupted, screwed and tore it apart. Whatever good things you may have spotted, those could have happened under any given government without making any special efforts.

If he isn't washed away just like the filth he is, the snackbar shit will swallow Anatolia and Europe will be the next on the list. What baffles me is that Europe has never seemed to foresee that much. They are only involved in utilizing that wretched corrupt living thing (something but not a human for sure) as long as they deem it feasible. After all, they all know about his dirty laundry and can even bring him before the international court of justice any given time. But why the fuck should they? Just use him until he is no longer usable.

History records this shit. History records how the world remains indifferent to it on purpose.

The guy is elected more or less legally, clean your own shit.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Leshma on November 25, 2014, 11:20:41 pm
More or less :D

His reign is just as legal as Crimea referendum was. Legal 'more or less'.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 26, 2014, 01:03:52 am
The guy is elected more or less legally, clean your own shit.

A lot less legally than you actually know, thanks to the Sun Java based corrupt computerized election system imported from the USA. Also, I wasn't asking anyone to "clean our own shit" for clarification. Not smearing shit from outside is enough.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Dede on November 26, 2014, 04:40:30 am
move along, nothing to see here...

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Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 26, 2014, 11:40:25 am
Donkeys, donkeys be gud.

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Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Piok on November 26, 2014, 02:28:25 pm
He probably meant this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_map

During centuries probably thousands of people discovered America.
Sadly for most of them Americas coast became theirs grave.
Even Portugal explorers mapped some parts of Brazilian coast before Colombus
but this discovery became state secret.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Dede on November 26, 2014, 04:37:26 pm
nothing to see here...

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Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 26, 2014, 05:03:43 pm
Donkeys, donkeys be gud.

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Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Dede on November 26, 2014, 08:55:45 pm
nothing to see here...

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also...nothing to see here...

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Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 26, 2014, 09:00:29 pm
Donkeys, donkeys be gud.

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Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Gnjus on November 27, 2014, 08:55:28 am
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Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Kafein on November 27, 2014, 11:02:52 pm
More or less :D

His reign is just as legal as Crimea referendum was. Legal 'more or less'.

I typed more or less because I really have no clear idea, mind you. The only time I actually made an intelligent remark about this thing is when I paraphrased "but highways D:", which is a pretty hilarious way to summarize Erdogan's supporters in my opinion.

It seems Dede and Blockula already had started this discussion before this thread, so it's probably wise not to intervene, especially considering both have my sympathy. I'm just commenting on the post I'm writing until you stop reading claiming it's too meta.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Franke on November 28, 2014, 02:23:28 am
I typed more or less because I really have no clear idea, mind you. The only time I actually made an intelligent remark about this thing is when I paraphrased "but highways D:", which is a pretty hilarious way to summarize Erdogan's supporters in my opinion.

It seems Dede and Blockula already had started this discussion before this thread, so it's probably wise not to intervene, especially considering both have my sympathy. I'm just commenting on the post I'm writing until you stop reading claiming it's too meta.

Did Mr. Erdogan construct highways? I'm asking because the "But he constructed the highways"-argument can today still be heard in Germany by those "Not-everything-was-bad-back-then" Hitler-Apologetics.

I literally know nothing about Turkish domestic politics (hence my question), my post was not meant to compare Mr. Erdogang to Hitler, the highway-thingie just made me think of him.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: BattalGazi on November 28, 2014, 11:41:18 am
That comparison was not that irrelevant if you'd had known "Mr." erdogan's tyrant rule.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Dede on November 28, 2014, 01:35:15 pm
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Those Europeans always misunderstood our real intention...we just wanted you to taste our delicious Kebab, nothing more...



@Kafein
It's just a little misunderstanding between me and Blockula..
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Kafein on November 28, 2014, 05:29:30 pm
Did Mr. Erdogan construct highways? I'm asking because the "But he constructed the highways"-argument can today still be heard in Germany by those "Not-everything-was-bad-back-then" Hitler-Apologetics.

You can't deny that highways were constructed in Germany during Hitler's rule. I don't understand how you can construe that as being a Hitler apologist thing. Many other good things happened in Germany during Hitler's rule, but the point is that Hitler committed atrocities. You can even argue that without nazi Germany's efforts in engineering the whole world would not have progressed so much in areas such as rocketry and computers during the 40s', that doesn't make concentration camps any better.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Franke on November 28, 2014, 05:37:02 pm
You can't deny that highways were constructed in Germany during einstein's rule. I don't understand how you can construe that as being a einstein apologist thing. Many other good things happened in Germany during einstein's rule, but the point is that einstein committed atrocities. You can even argue that without chocolate chip cookie Germany's efforts in engineering the whole world would not have progressed so much in areas such as rocketry and computers during the 40s', that doesn't make concentration camps any better.

I think I failed at making my point clear. I am not one of those fools who claim that everything that was invented or even used during Germany's fascist era is per se "evil". I was just aiming at those people who try to argue "einstein was not all bad, he built the highways" (and there are still plenty of ppl here who at least think like this).
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Kafein on November 28, 2014, 07:23:38 pm
I think I failed at making my point clear. I am not one of those fools who claim that everything that was invented or even used during Germany's fascist era is per se "evil". I was just aiming at those people who try to argue "einstein was not all bad, he built the highways" (and there are still plenty of ppl here who at least think like this).

I understood your point, these guys are wrong for the same reason.
Title: Meanwhile in Turkey...
Post by: Andswaru on December 14, 2014, 10:28:35 pm
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30468199

Imprisioning members of the press, thats real style, Uncle Putin would be proud.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 14, 2014, 11:15:02 pm
Aloha snackbar
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on December 14, 2014, 11:21:43 pm
Ironical enough, the newspaper that received the "operation" was the newspaper which blatantly pioneered and publicly legitimized the totally unjust and illicit imprisonment of tons of opposing journalists and military officers within the scope of the made-up Ergenekon series of trials. They were the crutch of Erdogan throughout his years of rule. Because the newspaper, Zaman, was a power extension of the USA-based preacher Gulen, who strongly supported the rise to power.

The ties between the preacher and Erdogan snapped when the "sharing of state and its many boons" became the agenda after Turkey had been successfully infiltrated by the Holy Snackbar Fanatics. Gulen simply wanted more power and financial sources for the followers of his "Nur" movement and Erdogan was less than willing to hand it to him. Then the clash started. Zaman, which had fiercely undermined the Gezi protests, started publishing pro-Gezi news. It started talking about how Ergenekon was a legal setup to undermine military authority and freedom of press. And all that shitstorm.

After aiding Erdogan in imprisoning shitton of innocent people and causing a specific number of them to literally rot to death in prison, they suddenly became adversaries, because the fucking cake couldn't be shared. They recently also did the same thing for the Nur policemen, educationist (teachers, professors, lecturers, school principals etc.) and jurists.

Just for the record, I am not happy that yet another news body is biting the dust in the hands of the tyrant, as it is only another indication of how dearly fucked Turkey is at the moment. Still, I can't even bring myself to feel sorry for those lowlife hypocrites.

Well, you read another wall of text about the fucked-upness of Turkey. Pleased to be of service. At your command anytime.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Andswaru on December 15, 2014, 11:49:14 am
Daunt thanks for the inside view, you always manage to add colour to what is normally a simple black and white story when read directly from the news source.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Kirman on December 15, 2014, 06:37:46 pm
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I'm kinda stuck at this point. A part of me says ''fuck it let's watch them punch each other''. By the way i expect a payback from Gulen's organisation.  On the otherside Erdogan gains more power each day which scares me... At the end, we need to get rid of them both and it sounds impossible.



Probaby ill end up on this idea  :lol:
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Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Kafein on December 16, 2014, 12:34:25 am
You already live in anarchism, as I do. All authority is made up. There is only individual people interacting.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Algarn on December 16, 2014, 12:40:08 am
Authority is necessary, but I'd prefer living on my own than having to obey corrupted/retarded leaders.

Poor you guys, really. Having a guy like Erdogan is just sad.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Kirman on December 25, 2014, 11:36:38 am
Let's update this cause it's a good material. He really said that.

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Also he defended his opinion about america's discovery by raging at us cause we made a lot of memes about it and it's all over the internet  :lol:
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Christo on December 25, 2014, 12:10:52 pm
A teenager got locked up for insulting this motherfucker, what is up with that?

I thought the law that passed was only for Atatürk and the state in general.. .-.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on December 25, 2014, 12:47:47 pm
The state? That is pretty much that fucker himself at the moment. He is a supreme being above all. Come on Christo, I thought you would have known by now. He is capable of punishing anyone for anything at anytime. Just annoy him a little. That is it. He has crushed all separate powers of the state and sits atop their ruins.

Also, clarification for what Xside wrote above. The backward moron now wants us to go back to the Ottoman language, which is a dead impractical language that utilizes Arabic letters. Not a single day without a gross atrocity. Not a single one.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Christo on December 25, 2014, 01:10:52 pm
Ottoman language, what the hell.

This guy is just, I don't even.

Hope he doesn't want to re-enact those 'glory days' of the Ottoman Empire in Europe, else he'll be kicked in the ass.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Kirman on December 25, 2014, 01:24:27 pm
Ottoman language, what the hell.

This guy is just, I don't even.

Hope he doesn't want to re-enact those 'glory days' of the Ottoman Empire in Europe, else he'll be kicked in the ass.

I should have learned Ottoman language instead of English and French  :lol:
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: the real god emperor on December 25, 2014, 01:43:46 pm
else he'll be kicked in the ass.

come at us, BRO.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: Christo on December 25, 2014, 03:40:48 pm
no, u

remove kebab from premises
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: the real god emperor on December 25, 2014, 04:43:56 pm
no, u

remove kebab from premises

erdoğan is no only kebab ,he so stronk lightning from eyes.
Title: Re: Erdoğan says America was discovered by Muslims, not Columbus
Post by: gallonigher on December 25, 2014, 05:56:04 pm
erdoğan is no only kebab ,he so stronk lightning from eyes.
what a blatant lie; the lightning comes from his ass