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cRPG => Ban/Unban Requests => EU (Official) => Topic started by: Gribnir_Thorwaldson on October 09, 2014, 04:49:44 pm

Title: UNBAN Gadrik_Warjagi
Post by: Gribnir_Thorwaldson on October 09, 2014, 04:49:44 pm

Norse_Erzengle wanted to kick me from the tower on the map, so I hit him back. Then he reported me, in the same time I reported him for it. And then we went to the flag to cap it, and after the capped it and won and when everyone was cheering I killed him. The round was already over. And when the next round started he banned me for 2 DAYS and 1 hour. For this? Really really exaggerated don't you think? And only because he wanted to kill me and I killed him instead?

Title: Re: UNBAN Gadrik_Warjagi
Post by: Veniathan on October 09, 2014, 04:54:01 pm

Also to add, I was in the server when this happend and so was the other clanmember XeliusCRO. We were all 3 on TS, when suddenly he is banned for 2 days and 1 hour.

Screenshot of the ban: http://i.imgur.com/XL1T98D.jpg

After this, some members of von_Krems clan proceeded to swear to us and say "Ban all Waryag fuckers for 2 days" "fucktards" etc. For no reason. Then Molly muted one of them. So it is all good. This ban was extremely unfair, and likely personal hate was involved from previous relations.

Title: Re: UNBAN Gadrik_Warjagi
Post by: Gribnir_Thorwaldson on October 09, 2014, 05:01:56 pm

sorry erzengel but you're one of the people, destroying the mod and this is my personal opinion.

Title: Re: UNBAN Gadrik_Warjagi
Post by: Erzengel on October 09, 2014, 05:08:08 pm

Hahaha. You accidently teamhit me in a clusterfuck. After that I gave you a friendly nudge with my shield. Obviously I had no intention at all to teamkill you... It was only a reminder to be more careful.

But then you freaked out. You gave me a nudge and then teamhit me with your axe, which I reported. You reported my nudge in return. 30 seconds later you teamkilled me on purpose at the end of the round...

This is already your 4th ban for teamkilling. Perhaps you should control your rage and don't behave like an ass?

Logs:

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[16:14:21] msg,Norse_Erzengel reported Warjagi_Gadrik_ for teamwounding. Penalty: [1/5]
[16:14:22] msg,Warjagi_Gadrik_ reported Norse_Erzengel for teamwounding. Penalty: [1/5]
[16:14:24] chat,,Norse_Erzengel,all,wtf?
[16:14:29] kill,Bronto_FIDLGB,Kerkko_von_Krems,melee,Masterwork Katana,hb_spine
[16:14:30] chat,,Norse_Richy,all,wot
[16:14:31] kill,Ziba,Ral_antic_machine,melee,Staffmaster's Quarter Staff,hb_forearm_l
[16:14:38] chat,,Norse_Richy,all,Austrii
[16:14:40] kill,Ninja_Molly_the_Hooligan,Hospitaller_Vidarr,melee,Masterwork Longsword,hb_abdomen
[16:14:40] kill,Merc_MadMan_Jack,Norse_Erzengel,melee,Masterwork Long Arming Sword,hb_thorax
[16:14:55] kill,Tommo_only_win_von_Krems,Ral_antic_machine,melee,Staffmaster's Quarter Staff,hb_thorax
[16:14:56] msg,Austri_the_Bro reported Barabe_Kreusi for teamwounding. Penalty: [2/5]
[16:15:01] chat,,Norse_Erzengel,all,fucking idiot...
[16:15:08] msg,Norse_Erzengel reported Warjagi_Gadrik_ for teamwounding. Penalty: [2/5]
[16:15:14] kill,Ral_antic_machine,Ral_antic_machine,fall
[16:15:17] disconnect,Bronto_FIDLGB
[16:15:17] teamkill,Norse_Erzengel,Warjagi_Gadrik_,melee,Powerful Light One Handed Battle Axe,hb_head
[16:15:17] msg,Warjagi_Gadrik_ team-killed Norse_Erzengel
[16:15:18] chat,,Ral_antic_machine,team,damn
[16:15:21] disconnect,Rumpelstilzchen
[16:15:23] chat,,Tommo_only_win_von_Krems,team,you
[16:15:24] msg,Norse_Erzengel banned player Warjagi_Gadrik_ for 2d 1h. Reason: Teamkilling.   
[16:15:25] disconnect,Warjagi_Gadrik_
[16:15:25] death,Warjagi_Gadrik_
[16:15:30] chat,,Norse_Richy,team,OH SNAP
[16:15:30] chat,,Norse_Erzengel,team,smart guy...

Oh, another line from the logs:

[16:15:54] chat,,dragonhulk,team,he was killing me to same team all time.

Perhaps this is the reason why Krems were "insulting" you?

Title: Re: UNBAN Gadrik_Warjagi
Post by: Varadin on October 09, 2014, 05:31:30 pm

Erz i understand the ban , but 2 days is much make it 1 day like u did to everyone else :)

Title: Re: UNBAN Gadrik_Warjagi
Post by: Veniathan on October 09, 2014, 05:32:52 pm

Quote from: Erzengel on October 09, 2014, 05:08:08 pm

Oh, another line from the logs:

[16:15:54] chat,,dragonhulk,team,he was killing me to same team all time.

Perhaps this is the reason why Krems were "insulting" you?

They were not just insulting him. They were insulting all of us for no reason. I didn't capture it because I left server really fast. Some krems were saying "fucktard waryags" "ban these fuckers for 2 days all of them" etc etc. What did I had to do with this? Or Xelius who just STARTED the game? Grow up please. You are inactive player, you come on for 30 minutes. Make a ban of 2 days for a teamkill AFTER THE ROUND ENDS. And leave again go inactive. And call yourself an admin. No offense buddy but that's awful .. Really bad. Unfair and you are very one sided full of personal hate.

Why did another admin have to mute the countless krems which insulted us who just joined the server for absolutely no reason?

Title: Re: UNBAN Gadrik_Warjagi
Post by: Erzengel on October 09, 2014, 05:48:58 pm

Quote from: Veniathan on October 09, 2014, 05:32:52 pm

They were not just insulting him. They were insulting all of us for no reason. I didn't capture it because I left server really fast. Some krems were saying "fucktard waryags" "ban these fuckers for 2 days all of them" etc etc. What did I had to do with this? Or Xelius who just STARTED the game? Grow up please. You are inactive player, you come on for 30 minutes. Make a ban of 2 days for a teamkill AFTER THE ROUND ENDS. And leave again go inactive. And call yourself an admin. No offense buddy but that's awful .. Really bad. Unfair and you are very one sided full of personal hate.

Why did another admin have to mute the countless krems which insulted us who just joined the server for absolutely no reason?

What do I have to do with Krems being trolls? I don't think that you have to tell me to grow up.

I am not inactive. I am playing quite a lot again since two weeks. But anyways, what does this have to do with the ban? Am I only allowed to do my admin job if I play for 5 hours each day? :rolleyes:

Your friend teamhit me on purpose because I gave him a friendly nudge. I ignored this and only reported the teamhit. This is the point where he should have stopped. But then he also teamkilled me at the end of the round. Well, I guess if you are that stupid to teamhit and teamkill an admin you deserve a little break.

Usually I would have given him one day for the teamkill, but he was behaving like a total dick. He even reported my nudge after he teamattacked me. And now you are accusing me of abusing my admin powers and having a personal grudge on him. That's not how an unban request works...

So, why should I reduce his ban? He isn't even sorry at all. He could have written me a personal message, explaining the situation from his point of view and then we would have sorted it out. But not this way...

Personal hate? What are you talking about? I don't even know/remember you guys.

Title: Re: UNBAN Gadrik_Warjagi
Post by: Veniathan on October 09, 2014, 05:57:54 pm

Quote from: Erzengel on October 09, 2014, 05:48:58 pm

What do I have to do with Krems being trolls? I don't think that you have to tell me to grow up.

I am not inactive. I am playing quite a lot again since two weeks. But anyways, what does this have to do with the ban? Am I only allowed to do my admin job if I play for 5 hours each day? :rolleyes:

Your friend teamhit me on purpose because I gave him a friendly nudge. I ignored this and only reported the teamhit. This is the point where he should have stopped. But then he also teamkilled me at the end of the round. Well, I guess if you are that stupid to teamhit and teamkill an admin you deserve a little break.

Usually I would have given him one day for the teamkill, but he was behaving like a total dick. He even reported my nudge after he teamattacked me. And now you are accusing me of abusing my admin powers and having a personal grudge on him. That's not how an unban request works...

Personal hate? What are you talking about? I don't even know/remember you guys.

Good act, you ever considered acting career? Regardless. Very unfair ban, the cRPG community is already tiny. You are really doing a great and lovely improvement of banning people who are active members of this community for teamkilling you WHEN THE ROUND IS OVER.

Title: Re: UNBAN Gadrik_Warjagi
Post by: Gribnir_Thorwaldson on October 09, 2014, 06:00:01 pm

sorry Erzengel! there will always be people who take advantage of their position to lead to their personal war.

your insult, confirms my opinion about you ;)

Title: Re: UNBAN Gadrik_Warjagi
Post by: Erzengel on October 09, 2014, 06:00:54 pm

Yep, it is always the admins fault when somebody gets banned.  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: UNBAN Gadrik_Warjagi
Post by: Veniathan on October 09, 2014, 06:15:05 pm

Quote from: Erzengel on October 09, 2014, 06:00:54 pm

Yep, it is always the admins fault when somebody gets banned.  :rolleyes:

No, you are wrong. Most of the time it's not wrong because of admin, it's absolutely hilarious what you banned him for. The chat entered a complete and utter shitstorm after what you did. But of course, not your fault. You are admin, you cannot possibly be wrong right? Cool, killed after round ends, 2 DAY BAN!

Title: Re: UNBAN Gadrik_Warjagi
Post by: Erzengel on October 09, 2014, 06:18:54 pm

Quote from: Veniathan on October 09, 2014, 06:15:05 pm

No, you are wrong. Most of the time it's not wrong because of admin, it's absolutely hilarious what you banned him for. The chat entered a complete and utter shitstorm after what you did. But of course, not your fault. You are admin, you cannot possibly be wrong right? Cool, killed after round ends, 2 DAY BAN!

Right, banning somebody for intentional teamhitting and teamkilling is wrong. :lol:

Oh boy...

Ah I forgot, being an active player makes you completly immune to getting banned and allows you to break the rules whenever you want. My fault again, sorry.  :cry:

Title: Re: UNBAN Gadrik_Warjagi
Post by: Gribnir_Thorwaldson on October 09, 2014, 06:21:17 pm

Erzengel I really have nothing against you, but you tried to hit me from the tower and I am not pleased's normal and then this exaggerated ban lol

Title: Re: UNBAN Gadrik_Warjagi
Post by: Erzengel on October 09, 2014, 06:25:45 pm

I didn't try to push you from the tower, lol. Why would I do that? You were not even close to falling down.

An admin gives you a nudge and your first reaction is "Oh, he clearly wants to teamkill me. Let him taste my axe!"?

I already ignored your teamhit. But also teamkilling me was too much.

Contact me again tomorrow and I might see if I reduce the ban.

Title: Re: UNBAN Gadrik_Warjagi
Post by: Gribnir_Thorwaldson on October 09, 2014, 06:49:25 pm

lol why should I attack someone for no reason and then also a admin???

I'm in the game so often nudge, because I would have but many people have killed XD

 I sign up tomorrow

Title: Re: UNBAN Gadrik_Warjagi
Post by: Akronus97 on October 09, 2014, 07:28:32 pm

I saw this whole situation and I have to say one thing: Banning there is understandable, ofc you didn't follow the rules, but I also think that 2 days are pretty much exaggerated.

Also Erzengel, you said usually you would give just 1 day ban for something like that, but this time you banned him for more time because he acted like a dick (that's what you said). Sry, but I don't think it is about you to judge about this kind of behaviour, if you banned every crpg player for being a dick, crpg would be an empty place. :P  You obviously increased the ban time because you felt offended by his behaviour (totally not personal).
Don't get me wrong Erzengel, the ban is justified, maybe you should just  reduce the time.

Title: Re: UNBAN Gadrik_Warjagi
Post by: Tuetensuppe on October 09, 2014, 08:17:55 pm

Quote from: cmpxchg8b

No intentional teamwounding/teamkilling during a round (teamkilling friends after a round ends is allowed, teamkilling random people is not)

http://forum.melee.org/announcements/official-server-rules/ (http://forum.melee.org/announcements/official-server-rules/)

no need to discus...

Quote from: Akronus97 on October 09, 2014, 07:28:32 pm

Also Erzengel, you said usually you would give just 1 day ban for something like that, but this time you banned him for more time because he acted like a dick (that's what you said).

Quote from: Erzengel on October 09, 2014, 05:08:08 pm

This is already your 4th ban for teamkilling.

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Quote from: cmpxchg8b

We are terribly sorry for not being perfect and are working on replacing all players and admins with computers for optimal performance.

http://forum.melee.org/announcements/official-server-rules/ (http://forum.melee.org/announcements/official-server-rules/)

Title: Re: UNBAN Gadrik_Warjagi
Post by: Akronus97 on October 09, 2014, 09:22:12 pm

Well, you got a point there  :wink:
But still, I dislike the way he said it. Also it surprises me that Erzengel knew in exact that moment that this guy was banned 3 times before.

Title: Re: UNBAN Gadrik_Warjagi
Post by: Erzengel on October 09, 2014, 11:19:07 pm

Thanks Tuete.

Quote from: Akronus97 on October 09, 2014, 09:22:12 pm

Well, you got a point there  :wink:
But still, I dislike the way he said it. Also it surprises me that Erzengel knew in exact that moment that this guy was banned 3 times before.

I didn't. Saw it after I banned him.

Two days isn't a long ban by the way. That's quite a normal duration for a teamkill. The ban duration is entirely up to the admins and depends on the individual case. There is no general rule.

Oh and this is not a discussion.

I will close the topic now. Gribnir write me personal message (or tell me to open it again if there is something important).