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Title: Agiwhoring
Post by: DonNicko on October 03, 2014, 12:43:06 pm
Agiwhoring is so fun) I used always to be str build before, today morning I made build 12/30 stf. Well, on 4 map in a raw I was on the 1st place with many kills, I could kill half of team, I didn't need too many to block. I was wearing the lightest armor. Always getting valor, milking X5, pitty that it was STF. Earned about 10k gold in 30 minutes. Maybe I need to make my main like 18/30?
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Kalp on October 03, 2014, 12:45:32 pm
Yes, please do it, we need more agiwhores  :wink:
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: SIrCampALot on October 03, 2014, 12:47:29 pm
AHHHH pls stop it I don't won't to hear that there is one more agiwhore!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Rico on October 03, 2014, 12:51:23 pm
Agiwhoring is so fun) I used always to be str build before, today morning I made build 12/30 stf. Well, on 4 map in a raw I was on the 1st place with many kills, I could kill half of team, I didn't need too many to block. I was wearing the lightest armor. Always getting valor, milking X5, pitty that it was STF. Earned about 10k gold in 30 minutes. Maybe I need to make my main like 18/30?
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: DonNicko on October 03, 2014, 12:52:31 pm
  • Which weapon did you use?
  • Which server did you play on?
I took MW war spear, played on server EU1
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Rico on October 03, 2014, 12:56:20 pm
The Live_Your_Life way? :mrgreen:

Well, polearm animations are fast as hell and quite OP. The War Spear uses blunt and pierce, so you will do decent damage. It's a strong choice for sure.

Even with high wpf, onehanders and twohanders are either too slow or they are cut-based, so they don't really benefit that much from high agi.

If you ask me, it's rather a polearm phenomenon that agibuilds are super-effective.
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: DonNicko on October 03, 2014, 01:01:24 pm
Yep, Hearst taught me that way :twisted:
on 36 I could use Xbow, so it would be double fun)
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Kaido on October 03, 2014, 01:11:04 pm
Just because you see someone's else play-style doesn't mean it will fit your skills.Everyone has a different play-style in melee combat which make this game so unique.Str whores/blockgods/chambergods/feinters/holders/skeywhoring and many many more.Everyone has a little bit in them.Just join eu3 and see some strwhores with 12 agi what the are capable of.

Agi is overated
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Huscarlton_Banks on October 03, 2014, 01:24:01 pm
Anything with a decent fast stab will do well with high AGI, especially with hits to the face.

Speed bonuses give exponential raw damage increases (for melee anyway).

Raw damage % increases generally mean a higher % increase in effective damage, due to the way that armor works (soak just eats up weak hits).

Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Bronto on October 03, 2014, 02:19:40 pm
The Scumpy build was the best build. It was also that of a true man using not but a long dagger, shirt and straw hat. Xol(RIP) started the Scumpy revolution and one day on NA 1 we had about 7 of us with variations of the Scumpy name all running 3/36 STF with 13 ath, 1 PS and the rest in WM. We would just gang up on people and stab them to death from all sides. It was one of the most fun times I've had in the mod.
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Jona on October 03, 2014, 06:24:02 pm
The Scumpy build was the best build. It was also that of a true man using not but a long dagger, shirt and straw hat. Xol(RIP) started the Scumpy revolution and one day on NA 1 we had about 7 of us with variations of the Scumpy name all running 3/36 STF with 13 ath, 1 PS and the rest in WM. We would just gang up on people and stab them to death from all sides. It was one of the most fun times I've had in the mod.

I did a similar thing once with some clanmates... we all went high agi (not insane 3-36, but 15-24 or 12-27) but instead of bringing daggers I brought us all staffmaster's staffs. All we had to do was spam, never block, and no one could stop us... like a swarm of hornets we consumed the enemy team 1 player at a time... definitely great fun.
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Aprikose on October 03, 2014, 07:13:23 pm
Agiwhoring is so fun) I used always to be str build before, today morning I made build 12/30 stf. Well, on 4 map in a raw I was on the 1st place with many kills, I could kill half of team, I didn't need too many to block. I was wearing the lightest armor. Always getting valor, milking X5, pitty that it was STF. Earned about 10k gold in 30 minutes. Maybe I need to make my main like 18/30?

24/24 is better
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Arthur_ on October 03, 2014, 07:17:50 pm
give me an award for not agi whoring.. never
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: //saxon on October 03, 2014, 07:40:04 pm
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Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: bavvoz on October 03, 2014, 08:56:46 pm
Powerstrike should play a bigger role in glancing
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Perverz on October 03, 2014, 10:42:53 pm
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Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: jtobiasm on October 03, 2014, 10:43:34 pm
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Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Rico on October 03, 2014, 11:16:20 pm
The Scumpy build was the best build. It was also that of a true man using not but a long dagger, shirt and straw hat. Xol(RIP) started the Scumpy revolution and one day on NA 1 we had about 7 of us with variations of the Scumpy name all running 3/36 STF with 13 ath, 1 PS and the rest in WM. We would just gang up on people and stab them to death from all sides. It was one of the most fun times I've had in the mod.
Did the same with Nordic Short Sword +3 (3 STR required), it's a lot of fun. It also teaches you footwork, exploitation of speed boni to the max, and to aim for the head no matter what weapon you are using.

Recommend it to everyone to try it for one gen :D
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Hearst_ on October 03, 2014, 11:17:59 pm
Everybody should try agi build  :lol: easy way to enjoy from crpg!! No str build anymore.
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Rico on October 03, 2014, 11:22:28 pm
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DO YOU EVEN LIFT BRO? DO YOU?
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Molly on October 04, 2014, 09:08:17 am
You just wait till you end up in one of the range fests on EU1 and you gonna wish back str/if in no time...
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: DonNicko on October 04, 2014, 10:32:28 am
You just wait till you end up in one of the range fests on EU1 and you gonna wish back str/if in no time...
My str build is always headshot(
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Corsair831 on October 04, 2014, 12:17:19 pm
Yes you'll do well, and it'll be super easy, but it comes with the price of no longer being a man.

Made an alt for lolz once that had 1PS and 9-12 Str (to pick up weapons) and just looted everything with max athletics. Was the easiest build i ever played, looting katanas was the most fun, circlejerked a plate guy to death hacking at his legs with OP speed bonus. It's not a playstyle that i respect, but it sure is easy and effective.

i don't think it's easy at all, i play 1h shielder 12/30 now, and before that i played 1h shielder 21/21, and i can tell you that my KDR on the 21/21 build was significantly higher than my kdr now. before i could kill certain players in 2, 3 hits, whilst having ~~1701h wpf, now, with 200 1h wpf (only marginally faster), it takes me ~~4, 5 hits to kill the same guy.

not op at all. if anything, balanced builds like the one i said (21/21), are the most powerful builds.
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Mr.K. on October 04, 2014, 12:26:17 pm
not op at all. if anything, balanced builds like the one i said (21/21), are the most powerful builds.

^This. However agi builds are certainly fun when there's no ranged around. Dying to one arrow from a rusbow or above is not fun though :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: karasu on October 04, 2014, 01:15:39 pm
You just wait till you end up in one of the range fests on EU1 and you gonna wish back str/if in no time...

Or just go into eu_2 and enjoy the heavy armor STR fest maximum skill lords lair where you feel completely useless glancing everywhere and a simple sneeze kills you.   :lol:
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on October 04, 2014, 03:24:27 pm
Did the same with Nordic Short Sword +3 (3 STR required), it's a lot of fun. It also teaches you footwork, exploitation of speed boni to the max, and to aim for the head no matter what weapon you are using.

Recommend it to everyone to try it for one gen :D

Something else thats fun as all get out is stacking strength, especcially if you're high level so you can forgo IF in favour of more PS and using a loomed nordic short warsword. People just aren't ready for that 8-10 PS with such a fast weapon. You can make mincemeat of anyone you come across.
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Kafein on October 04, 2014, 06:23:30 pm
Something else thats fun as all get out is stacking strength, especcially if you're high level so you can forgo IF in favour of more PS and using a loomed nordic short warsword. People just aren't ready for that 8-10 PS with such a fast weapon. You can make mincemeat of anyone you come across.

do you even s key
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on October 04, 2014, 06:27:42 pm
do you even s key

A fair point, but if some motherfucker is going to s-key me, I'll turn my bitch-ass around and zip zop zoobity bop my way out of there.

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If they don't have TOO much agility, I can use the attack-nudge and put them straight in the dirt if they're s-keying and holding a swing. That's always really great.
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: cup457 on October 04, 2014, 07:02:56 pm
i like agi cuz its fun to run around
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Mr.K. on October 05, 2014, 02:10:56 am
But that's a shielder, shields give penalties to movement speed, attack speed and damage. Not really the type of agihero build i was talking about but that's fine.

No and no.
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Macropus on October 05, 2014, 03:21:43 am
I'll turn my bitch-ass around and zip zop zoobity bop my way out of there.
Holy guacamole!
That's the best sentence I've seen in a long time! It sounds so damn American, I think I find it similar to something I've read in old american fairytales (I've read some). Love it.
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Nehvar on October 05, 2014, 03:54:36 am
Imagine Bill Cosby saying it for an even better effect.
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Battlepriest on October 05, 2014, 07:38:22 am
i just gave a partially finished sword model to panuru designed for 1h agiwhores, hope you guys are proud of me!  :D
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: MURDERTRON on October 05, 2014, 06:32:02 pm
So..... shields *dont* give a damage penalty then?

They give a speed penalty, though and they give a damage penalty to polearms.
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Mr.K. on October 05, 2014, 07:09:00 pm
There's no speed or damage penalty for 1H with a shield. Shield weight doesn't even affect the wpf, unlike armor weight. Polearms get a 10% damage malus and a big speed decrease (not sure how much) with a shield on foot.

1½H weapons (bastards, morningstar etc) get a 10% damage  malus on foot and 0% on horseback with a big speed decrease.
2H and polearms get a 25% damage malus on horseback afaik as well as a big speed decrease. So for example a Persian Battle Axe deals less damage than a longsword on horseback while having less reach and being far slower.
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: MURDERTRON on October 05, 2014, 08:16:41 pm
There is a speed penalty.  It's pretty obvious.
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Corsair831 on October 08, 2014, 02:53:42 pm
Holy guacamole!
That's the best sentence I've seen in a long time! It sounds so damn American, I think I find it similar to something I've read in old american fairytales (I've read some). Love it.

HAHA YOU ENGLISHED WRONG.
IT'S  FARIETALES .. FUCK YOU RUSSIAN CUNT HAHEHAHEYAHAEUHAEUHAEUUHEAUHAEUHUAEHUEAUHEAUHUEAHUAEUHUAEHUEAUHAE

I WIN I WIN I WIN

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Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Kafein on October 08, 2014, 04:39:35 pm
There's a damage penalty for 1h with shield... it's the terrible damage of 1h weapons.
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: MURDERTRON on October 08, 2014, 04:47:26 pm
There's a damage penalty for 1h with shield... it's the terrible damage of 1h weapons.

Pretty much every 1h attack hits the head though, so the "low" damage isn't as bad as everyone thinks.
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Macropus on October 08, 2014, 06:24:50 pm
HAHA YOU ENGLISHED WRONG.
IT'S  FARIETALES .. FUCK YOU RUSSIAN CUNT HAHEHAHEYAHAEUHAEUHAEUUHEAUHAEUHUAEHUEAUHEAUHUEAHUAEUHUAEHUEAUHAE

I WIN I WIN I WIN

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Fuck off, I wrote it right and I got proofs.
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Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Kafein on October 08, 2014, 08:35:53 pm
Pretty much every 1h attack hits the head though, so the "low" damage isn't as bad as everyone thinks.

haha, no
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on October 09, 2014, 03:45:35 am
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Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: DonNicko on October 11, 2014, 09:17:54 pm
Agiwhore result 18/30
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Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Macropus on October 11, 2014, 09:19:35 pm
Agiwhore result 18/30
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Not like it's something you can't do with any other decent build?


Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: DonNicko on October 11, 2014, 09:23:00 pm
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Not like it's something you can't do with any other decent build?
It's for Molly, he or she thinks that agi is bad, and well with agi build I kill moar then with str one
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: MURDERTRON on October 11, 2014, 10:19:12 pm
Agi whites steal more kills than str crutchers.  They just have more opportunities.
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Stud_Muffin on October 12, 2014, 07:50:49 am
Buff cudgel and nerf agility. Seriously guys, this will revive the mod.

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Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Tibe on October 12, 2014, 08:35:16 am
I used to make quite many agialts. Sofar, ive sticked to a polearm agibuild and im kicking so much butt. Poles got lenght and strenght. Add speed to that, and its godlike.
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Corsair831 on October 12, 2014, 07:05:27 pm
Fuck off, I wrote it right and I got proofs.
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wtf you get fairy liquid in russia?! oh god i'd love to hear a russian guy saying fairy liquid in heavily accented russian :D .. that would make my day :D
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Macropus on October 12, 2014, 07:18:07 pm
wtf you get fairy liquid in russia?! oh god i'd love to hear a russian guy saying fairy liquid in heavily accented russian :D .. that would make my day :D
Blame yourself now, you asked for it...
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Corsair831 on October 18, 2014, 01:59:39 am
Blame yourself now, you asked for it...

hahahahaha

they say like "feeeeeeyrih" :D .. russian accent probably :D
Title: Re: Agiwhoring
Post by: Veniathan on October 18, 2014, 05:18:46 am
Don't forget the Kuyak too so we can filter you