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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Soldier_of_God on September 30, 2014, 02:57:31 am

Title: 1h Morningstar type weapon ?
Post by: Soldier_of_God on September 30, 2014, 02:57:31 am
It's been suggested before.

http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/add-weapon-mourningstar/msg831636/#msg831636

http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/1h-morningstar/msg822152/#msg822152

There are models, and its fairly easy to add. There is nothing like it in the game right now, and...
we could even just change the normal morning star into a 1h/2h weapon like the langes messer, that is truly 1 and 2 handed so that one handers like myself can use it effectively in 1h combat.

does anyone else still feel the same way?

Title: Re: 1h Morningstar type weapon ?
Post by: MURDERTRON on September 30, 2014, 03:54:09 am
Steel pick.
Title: Re: 1h Morningstar type weapon ?
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on September 30, 2014, 11:39:44 am
Quote from: MURDERTRON on September 30, 2014, 03:54:09 am
Steel pick.

Spiked club.

Mace, flanged mace etc etc etc etc etc

Millions of options.
Title: Re: 1h Morningstar type weapon ?
Post by: Soldier_of_God on October 01, 2014, 01:57:35 am
well sure, but someone worked on making a model, and the morningstar handles pretty differently from all those, comparatively speaking. the 2h morningstar is a slow, short, hard hitting weapon, and so should the 1h version; essentially it would be like the steel pick with balls. But that's ok, lets just forget the work that people have done, game is fine just the way it is. after all, a steel pick or a flanged mace is exactly the same thing, right?

NO.
Title: Re: 1h Morningstar type weapon ?
Post by: Huscarlton_Banks on October 01, 2014, 02:05:16 am
Making the existing Morningstar a 2h with a 1h secondary mode could work.

Same for any other 2h that can currently be used with a shield, as long as it doesn't already have a secondary mode. (Mace, Goedendag, Katana)
Title: Re: 1h Morningstar type weapon ?
Post by: matt2507 on October 01, 2014, 02:57:54 am
Quote from: Huscarlton_Banks on October 01, 2014, 02:05:16 am
Making the existing Morningstar a 2h with a 1h secondary mode could work.

Same for any other 2h than can currently be used with a shield, as long as it doesn't already have a secondary mode. (Mace, Goedendag, Katana, bs, hbs and longsword)
Title: Re: 1h Morningstar type weapon ?
Post by: Soldier_of_God on October 01, 2014, 06:14:55 am
Quote from: Huscarlton_Banks on October 01, 2014, 02:05:16 am
Making the existing Morningstar a 2h with a 1h secondary mode could work.

Same for any other 2h that can currently be used with a shield, as long as it doesn't already have a secondary mode. (Mace, Goedendag, Katana)

well heres the problem with that, the secondary mode is bastard mode. why not have it like the langes messer? Id be happy if the morningstar had 1h like that.
Title: Re: 1h Morningstar type weapon ?
Post by: Huscarlton_Banks on October 01, 2014, 06:22:20 am
The Morningstar doesn't have a secondary mode.

Being a bastard weapon is different from having a secondary mode.

The Langes Messer behavior is what giving it a secondary mode means, it's just that you would spawn with it in 2h mode instead of 1h mode initially.
Title: Re: 1h Morningstar type weapon ?
Post by: Phew on October 01, 2014, 05:46:19 pm
I'd rather Jarold's model be added, with the stats he suggested. It would basically be a military pick that trades 1p and 2 speed for bonus vs. shields, which seems balanced. The problem with the 2h morningstar is that it's too long to be balanced for 1h use, so it would have to be abysmally slow and/or weak (like it is now in 1h mode).

I wouldn't use either, since the fastest way to break a shield is always going to be an axe, and I only use my axe as a sidearm for fighting other shielders (a short weapon is a death sentence against all these agi polearmers that are everywhere now). But variety is always good.
Title: Re: 1h Morningstar type weapon ?
Post by: Rico on October 03, 2014, 01:52:05 am
(click to show/hide)

found a good 3d model, need someone to make the texture
Title: Re: 1h Morningstar type weapon ?
Post by: Johammeth on October 03, 2014, 06:20:01 am
Please no more weapons with both shield-breaking and swinging pierce.  :evil:
Title: Re: 1h Morningstar type weapon ?
Post by: San on October 03, 2014, 05:25:22 pm
I tested 1h morningstar alt mode on a test server and it worked a little *too well.
Title: Re: 1h Morningstar type weapon ?
Post by: Soldier_of_God on October 03, 2014, 05:44:10 pm
Quote from: San on October 03, 2014, 05:25:22 pm
I tested 1h morningstar alt mode on a test server and it worked a little *too well.

how do you mean? do you mean bastard mode for the normal morningstar?
Title: Re: 1h Morningstar type weapon ?
Post by: San on October 03, 2014, 06:08:07 pm
Not exactly bastard sword mode, just 1h alt mode.
Title: Re: 1h Morningstar type weapon ?
Post by: Soldier_of_God on October 03, 2014, 06:23:01 pm
I thought it might be a little OP. and so... probably will need a shorter one handed version to make it fair.
Title: Re: 1h Morningstar type weapon ?
Post by: Thorvic on October 06, 2014, 10:49:34 pm
Morningstar/shield is quite efficient for me, even if it's a bit slow  :)
Title: Re: 1h Morningstar type weapon ?
Post by: Soldier_of_God on October 07, 2014, 05:42:00 am
Quote from: Thorvic on October 06, 2014, 10:49:34 pm
Morningstar/shield is quite efficient for me, even if it's a bit slow  :)

you're not on a horse are you? because if thats the case, then its probably the best 2h weapon from horse ever, for anyone, or with a shield.
Title: Re: 1h Morningstar type weapon ?
Post by: MURDERTRON on October 10, 2014, 03:18:03 am
Quote from: Soldier_of_God on October 03, 2014, 06:23:01 pm
I thought it might be a little OP. and so... probably will need a shorter one handed version to make it fair.
Quote from: MURDERTRON on September 30, 2014, 03:54:09 am
Steel pick.