Is Melee a class or is it rangeless/cavless Melee?
Time to give some incentives to play melee as an actual class rather than as castrated ranged/cav
back when ranged couldnt melee there was qq about them running not fighting. now that they can fight there is qqing about them not running but fighting?
The argument is that fighting is still a choice, because running is a viable option even though it should not, and defending oneself in melee is too easy. Most of the ranged players who choose not to run are good enough players to best whoever is pursuing them in melee with a ranged build, or at least survive for enough time to get help.
Because melee is to most people still the most fun class to play.
As for the rage at ranged and cav, apart from Eldar (who I believe to be high level?) I could honestly not give you any more names of ranged who will consistently top the score board.
Does it means a ranged player cannot get help by running to teammates ?
Also, yay, another "nerf ranged" thread. Can these forums ever have enough of these "nerf ranged" threads ?
I know I will get some nice hate there, but destroying archery/crossbows will just make the game become a cav fest. The only OP class here is HA, and besides this class, you can catch and kill the average ranged player in one or two hits.
back when ranged couldnt melee there was qq about them running not fighting. now that they can fight there is qqing about them not running but fighting?
It means ranged should not have invulnerability to melee. We had to fight for months to get ladder cancer patched out, it's essentially the same thing.
And you keep on making these retarded posts devoid of any actual argument whenever a "nerf ranged" thread comes up.
Except if he's running towards his teammates, duh.
By the way I personally would love to see all ranged replaced by melee cav. I'd just get a spear and murder them.
Oh please,the wifi boy has nothing to do with this....(click to show/hide)
Steevee, Nebun, Shokoshugi, Austriano, ... And all these people are screwed 80% of time when they are caught into melee. Sure, short swords are viable weapons, but are they really OP ? Do you top a server with 40 wpf in 1H and 6 PS ?
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Seems like Grumbs felt like posting this in every balance thread wasn't enough, so he made a separate one.
Melee is a class. Other classes being able to fight in melee doesn't make pure melee any less of a class.
Melee can't be ranged or cav, yet ranged and cav are 90% of what melee are when in a melee role.It sounds like it tries to be logical, but no, it doesn't make any sense if you actually give it a thought.
Lets add a 0 sucky power draw bow and a 0 sucky riding skill horse (already done) so that we can end this pitiful argument.
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Lets be real tho, ranged and cav are still much weaker than melee in this game. Sure they might be annoying at times and help the team but we all know where most of the kills are.Shut up u whore cunt!
I think archers should get a slight buff to draw speed across the high tier bows and a buff to damage on low tier bows (they barely do anything against armor). Now that the ranged stun is nerfed their impact on the team is even lower so a buff at least to damage should be justified. Maybe a missle speed buff for yumi.
Cav is also much less mobile than before, they heav cav can barely manouver properly, i suggest a buff to high tier horse manouver and also a buff to HA accuracy and damage, they do like 0 damage to armoured melee.(click to show/hide)
Lets be real tho, ranged and cav are still much weaker than melee in this game. Sure they might be annoying at times and help the team but we all know where most of the kills are.
I think archers should get a slight buff to draw speed across the high tier bows and a buff to damage on low tier bows (they barely do anything against armor). Now that the ranged stun is nerfed their impact on the team is even lower so a buff at least to damage should be justified. Maybe a missle speed buff for yumi.
Cav is also much less mobile than before, they heav cav can barely manouver properly, i suggest a buff to high tier horse manouver and also a buff to HA accuracy and damage, they do like 0 damage to armoured melee.(click to show/hide)
we already have crossbows and stones. Every cannon fodder can use it without any investments.
We only need an improvised Short Bow which would require 0 power draw and does ~10 cut damage and we will successfully have removed all classes from cRPG.
Grumbs you constantly say all ranged is, is left clicking. I can guarantee you would not be any help to your team if you played ranged. You might get a good score 1 map every 10 but what's a good score mean if you're on x1 all the time?? Oh yeah means fuck all
but they are irrelevant to the outcome of the round
I play archer on my STF. Its easy with my regular medium armour + Grosses Messer. Easy shooting mechanics + I kill most in melee
Simple curiosity, what's the name of your stf ? I never saw you playing anything else than your main, and I doubt you got some "ranged" gameplay experience, since you only talk about point and click, which is the case either of arbalest/heavy crossbows, or the case of nomad/tatar/horn bow. If you actually use the longbow or the rus bow, you will have a hard time pointing and clicking, unless you trade speed and accuracy for more missile speed and some damage from PD.
Ranged part is so easy that you get mot of your kills with your sword... Sounds like some elite and experimented archer here.(click to show/hide)
Simple curiosity, what's the name of your stf ? I never saw you playing anything else than your main, and I doubt you got some "ranged" gameplay experience, since you only talk about point and click, which is the case either of arbalest/heavy crossbows, or the case of nomad/tatar/horn bow. If you actually use the longbow or the rus bow, you will have a hard time pointing and clicking, unless you trade speed and accuracy for more missile speed and some damage from PD.
Ranged part is so easy that you get mot of your kills with your sword... Sounds like some elite and experimented archer here.(click to show/hide)
Its easy to be an alright archer, takes some skill to get good or superb.
Melee is à class and people wouldn't whine if they chose some if and str instead of their precious agility.
I can easily take 6-7 bodyshots from à longbow, and take 10 from the lower tier bows
Regarding the meleepart of archery: they might be able to survive for à while but it's not that hard to rek em'.
Tl;dr take some str and learn to block or get à shield.
Many xoxoxo
Lekis