Although of course, repeater crossbow ? Even more useful than the bow ? Are you fucking kidding me the bow was already gamebreaking in FC3.
If you really liked Far Cry 3 then this is a save bet. So why not pre-order?
If you really liked Far Cry 3 then this is a save bet. So why not pre-order?
FC3 also gotta have the most sickeningly bad, two dimensional characters I've yet seen in a PC game. The teenage boy player character's incessantly whines and moans like some little drama queen, even when skinning his 1000th animal, or killing his 1000th enemy.Oh god, this. It was so fucking annoying and unrealistic. FC3 was very flat and two dimensional as a whole, nothing about it was very exciting.
Far Cry 2 did so many things right. Graphics were great, weapon system was fun, shooting mechanics were pretty cool and the best thing was the atmosphere that it had. Africa felt damp and sweaty as hell. There were so much cool new things that few FPS had done before. Too bad they put in so much crappy repetitive gameplay of which everyone and their mother could grasp that it was a poor idea. It's like the first Assassin's Creed, all this cool innovation and great atmosphere, but mucking it up with the terrible repeating missions. Still Far Cry 2 is my favourite Far Cry and Assassin's Creed my favourite Assassin's Creed. Sequels made the games far better gameplay design wise, but lost a lot of character and convincing atmosphere.
Guess I'll bay it too. Steam recently started accepting payments in TL only to double screw us. Prices are even more outrageous now.
Those respawning checkpoints :rolleyes:
Btw... Bought my Limited Edition for 33€ at a key seller. No need to pay full price nowadays.
What I found hilarious in FC3 was capturing a base then having the guys show up right after to man it. Like where the hell were you when I was attacking it solo? Good fucking timing you assbutts.That's what was so gay about FC3. It was very, very game-y. The world didn't feel "alive" or "real" at all.
That's what was so gay about FC3. It was very, very game-y. The world didn't feel "alive" or "real" at all.
Also, it seems FC4 is doing the same thing as FC3 where you play a retarded American squeamish kid... yet in gameplay you're an expert cold blooded killer.
I know.. I remember the beginning and the first time you kill someone and the char is all "omg I just did that.. omg. omg.." Then brutally murders people and animals less than 20 minutes later without any thought. It definitely threw things off.
Haha yes, TotalBiscuit mentioned this and coined the term "ludonarrative dissonance" in his Tomb Raider video, another game where you are a normal person sissy and turn psychotic murderer in twenty seconds without anyone even taking notice.Maybe they just realized that it's a freaking first person shooter and not some rpg... -.-
Actually I think it's very much tied in to what the norms of single player FPS gameplay are. Games where you aren't one person fighting a whole army of AI dumbdumbs are in fact extremely rare. This is incredibly unrealistic too. Ten years ago all the characters we had were cliche badass dudebro types, so it wasn't really a problem to see them kill thousands of people. But now that we have characters supposed to have emotions it doesn't make sense anymore. Also this is even apparent in parts of the game that are "pseudo-gameplay" such as QTEs. Very frequently, this type of game sort of "enters QTE mode" in order to force some negative event to happen, such as you getting ambushed and captured, because that would be impossible within actual gameplay. Interestingly, FC3 did treat the subject a little bit better than TR by at least acknowledging the fact that the "hero" became a mass murderer.
It seems the designers either failed to understand the issue or couldn't find a satisfying solution in gameplay. I think it could be possible to make realistic gun fights with very few enemies interesting, that would at least reduce the dissonance.
99% of the people just wanna murder something in an interesting environment.As a minimum the game world should offer immersion. Something the good vs bad candyfloss theme park of FC3 was completely bereft of, and that the murky African civil war was brimming with.
Maybe they just realized that it's a freaking first person shooter and not some rpg... -.-
99% of the people just wanna murder something in an interesting environment.
Always with the over-analyzing stuff... jeez...
Far Cry 2 did so many things right. Graphics were great, weapon system was fun, shooting mechanics were pretty cool and the best thing was the atmosphere that it had. Africa felt damp and sweaty as hell. There were so much cool new things that few FPS had done before. Too bad they put in so much crappy repetitive gameplay of which everyone and their mother could grasp that it was a poor idea. It's like the first Assassin's Creed, all this cool innovation and great atmosphere, but mucking it up with the terrible repeating missions. Still Far Cry 2 is my favourite Far Cry and Assassin's Creed my favourite Assassin's Creed. Sequels made the games far better gameplay design wise, but lost a lot of character and convincing atmosphere.
Having the exact same opinion here. FC2 was quite atmospheric. Gameplay and plot might have been somewhat crap but Africa definately felt better. Really praying here that they make a serius non-cartoony sequel in Africa but with current FC-s gameplay.
This 1 is a better trailer.
never thought I'd have said this, but that music sounded better than massive attack angel :l
Maybe they just realized that it's a freaking first person shooter and not some rpg... -.-
99% of the people just wanna murder something in an interesting environment.
Always with the over-analyzing stuff... jeez...
Total biscuits a cunt, hes not even cynical, he is simply just a cunt about shit.
I can't stand him and whenever I hear people say he said this that blah blah I just can't take them seriously. Sorry Prps but the guy is a complete phony.
I actually liked the way the original AC told its story.
I liked 2 as well especially Venice, played some other games too but it wasn't the same.
Please develop. People never seem to explain why they hate him, or why he's a "phony"?
Don't forget the fact that Jason Brody, who never held a gun before, is a ace shot who can operate various kinds of shotguns, rifles, handguns and lmgs.
Still hyped for 4 doe.
well he is only really an ace shot if you are.
Nah I was just mad earlier, (also wanted to see peoples reactions :P) he's an alright guy and he's done fucking well for himself and has kinda set a benchmark for a lot of game critics and put fear into some game companies.
But, I do take everything he says with a pinch of salt as at times he is overly negative about games as he purposefully sets out to pull all the negative parts from a lot of games and is at times overly opinionated about some of the content that he does. Apart from that though he is pretty accurate about stuff and obv has a lot of knowledge for stuff, but I just can't take him seriously haha so I tend to not pay much attention to stuff he posts or people using his views on stuff.
You'd think that having 1 button to throw stuff and switching it with scroll would be a good idea, but as far as im concerned its not. I kept forgetting it every now and than. I once tried to throw a grenade at the center of charging enemies and I ended up throwing a large chunk of meat. And once while in stealth I tried to throw a knife and ended up throwing a grenade which pretty much notified my presence to everyone in the base.
Can someone confirm there's no snakes or spiders or jump scare animals like Snakes were in FC3?
I'm having such a hard time playing FC 3,shit story and the most annoying main character of all times, ffs I don't want him to live, I want him to get horribly murdered. From what I gather the story is even shittier in FC 4, sure both games look good and the action ain't bad but hell it's a action movie experience, lot's of eye candy covering a pile of generic shit.
Since do FPS need a good story? :shock:
Guess I've missed that development. I wanna kill people and blow shit up in fabulous fashion. I get that from FC3 and I am positive FC4 delivers on that front too.
Are you a fucking pussy?
No spiders, maybe snakes, haven't found any...meh their just snakes
There are actually snakes that randomly bite you, been bitten 3 times so far :S
I don't get why molly keeps defending games with shitty story and decent gameplay, I'm sorry people expect a game fine on more levels than gameplay when they pay 50 $ for a game released as complete and being patched at day 1.
I'm having such a hard time playing FC 3,shit story and the most annoying main character of all times, ffs I don't want him to live, I want him to get horribly murdered. From what I gather the story is even shittier in FC 4, sure both games look good and the action ain't bad but hell it's a action movie experience, lot's of eye candy covering a pile of generic shit.
I spent my first six hours or so in Far Cry 3 hunting wild animals for their pelts and doing all the crafting stuff.
Didn't take long for me to realize Far Cry 3 was better with a gamepad on PC. Most games are nowadays. Some games like Tomb Raider and Middle Earth let you seamlessly switch from gamepad and mouse with on the fly UI changes for all the prompts. Far Cry might do that as well. I just chill out roaming around stealthing with the gamepad and switch to mouse if I need to snipe.
Honestly controllers are way better designed for everything but strategy games than a mouse. Get with the times grandpas
Hell I just use fan made drivers to use a PS3 controller as an Xbox on Windows and it works flawlessly with every game so I didn't even have to buy anything.
I spent my first six hours or so in Far Cry 3 hunting wild animals for their pelts and doing all the crafting stuff. You are really missing the point of the game if you obsess over the shitty characters and cutscenes instead of you know free roaming the environment. Assaulting strongholds with stealth or over the top action is the whole meat of the game, try focusing on that.
That is what throw me away from that game, after not that bad intro we are starting to collect flowers and hunt for boars... I was like wtf and uninstalled the game within a minute... I expected some good action from that game, for me it was just another dissapointing AAA title that I couldn't even play for more than 1 hour. Good thing that I acutlly pirated this one.
Do the snakes actually turn you off from the game? :P
Honestly controllers are way better designed for everything but strategy games than a mouse. Get with the times grandpasMouse is superior by far to a controller when it comes to aiming.
Well, it's true there's freeroam, but I object to FC3's freeroam being better than the missions. The lack of challenge and repetitivity of everything you can do on the island, compounded with the excessive reliance on UI elements makes the whole thing not all that compelling. At least the missions offer a more diverse experience..
So after giving FC 3 more than a few chances after 10 hours I deinstalled the game and came to the conclusion it's utter crap as I figure in the strat. Will not be getting FC 4 even if it was free, gg Ubisoft you've done it again
@Molly: just looking out for my bros :wink:
@Clock: I wrote about it before in the thread. The game gets really old really fast, it's blockbuster movie experiece with nice looks but shit beneath it, story, characters, typical go there and hunt this animal with the bow 50 times side quests or kill the commander in a true whatever fassion with a knife 100 times just gets dull. Plus the fact you can basically run up to the enemy camp in a car stop there get out on the hill, snipe them run 20 meters right "damn I lost him" and do the same again... little stuff like that, absolutley didn't believe anything happening in the game, the struggle against pirates, main protagonist, main story all seems bogus and artificial, a prop for: we got nice gfx, come and blow 20 stray dogs with a rpg (an actual sidequest :rolleyes:)
snipe them run 20 meters right "damn I lost him" and do the same again... little stuff like that