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Title: Heroes and Generals
Post by: GRANDMOM on May 25, 2014, 10:53:06 am
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Heroes and generals - free to play

Lets make a division of crpgplayers and claim the campaignmap!!

http://www.heroesandgenerals.com/16/en/index.html (http://www.heroesandgenerals.com/16/en/index.html)




Be a general and move divisions on the map that others fight in, or just be a hero and fight in battles

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Some weaponry, weapons can be modified - buy new sights, barrels, triggers, scopes that adjusts accuracy, stability, rate of fire and so on

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Go on a bike trip with your friends!

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Huge amounts of players involved in this war!


Whos playing?











Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Eddy on May 25, 2014, 10:59:12 am
Count me in!  :wink:
Just sayin´ the tanks look exactly like the ones of WoT (not that there is much of a choice) but even the sounds are the same (atleast its sounds like that for me  :o)
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: GRANDMOM on May 25, 2014, 11:19:58 am
Sounds are great - and the feeling u get when ur hiding in a bush and tanks roll close by or planes circle above with huge engines roaring - you are a small infantry guy that cant hurt these fuckers and you decide that you wont leave that bush for a long time :)
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: aomas on May 25, 2014, 12:03:06 pm
Grandmom join the Pantheon Chat channel!!! You sneaky Yankie Bastardo, All Heil King of The Tigers!
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Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Eddy on May 25, 2014, 12:25:00 pm
US or the chocolate chip cookies?
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: GRANDMOM on May 25, 2014, 12:59:31 pm
US or the chocolate chip cookies?

Im US now, since Germans seems to be OP right now - I had to join the underdog, but then again - wars seems to be pretty short at the moment so its easy to switch sides later on. Cant wait for the russians and englishmen to enter the game :)

Im at work now, so I cant play

I havent yet checked out the ts for these games, we could make a subchannel in our ts though
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Knitler on May 25, 2014, 01:05:13 pm
Currently playing quite some WarThunder Ground Forces with Jerklek and other guys ~ maybe ill check it sooner or later :-)
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on May 25, 2014, 01:25:29 pm
Looks interesting. If you guys do make a gang or something, i might join as well :)
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: GRANDMOM on May 25, 2014, 01:42:26 pm
A couple of Kalmars are playing, 3-4 pantheons are in and I am sure that others are playing aswell - we just need to find each other and set it up and show those other nubs in the game how to go melee versus a tank with a spade!
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on May 25, 2014, 02:02:28 pm
So which side are you guys and how do i find any of you? I'm registering right now.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: GRANDMOM on May 25, 2014, 02:04:42 pm
So which side are you guys and how do i find any of you? I'm registering right now.

Once you are in the game, you find "friends" on the bottom left, click it and use the searchfunction

My name surprisingly is "GRANDMOM" - add me
Arn is "Arn."

Stupid thing is we have to add you aswell, so write ur name here (not your soldiers name)

We are allied for this war
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on May 25, 2014, 02:07:15 pm
My account is Yhullothar.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Erebosaither on May 25, 2014, 02:07:24 pm
i'm in!! Name Schumetzq
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Vibe on May 25, 2014, 02:32:41 pm
whoever isn't playing axis and spouting out all kinds of discriminative profanities is playing this game wrong
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: aomas on May 25, 2014, 05:01:37 pm
Pantheon boys are playing axis at the moment, but anyway join the pantheon chat channel or i actually made crpg channel too!!

Press the chat icon, and then channels search for Pantheon or crpg channel from the list or write crpg and press join!

When we all are on a same chat channel its more easily to add friends through that!
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on May 25, 2014, 05:12:21 pm
Welp, i already joined allies :/
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Vibe on May 25, 2014, 06:06:01 pm
Welp, i already joined allies :/

why would you do such a thing du ferdamter jude
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on May 25, 2014, 06:17:40 pm
Ugh.

Is it me, or is the game insane grind?
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on May 25, 2014, 06:55:28 pm
I earn like 1k credits per battle, if i do really well. Any weapon, apart from starting ones (why in the hell would you be able to buy another starting weapon? ffs, lost 10k by accident :/ ) costs like 50k+
O_o

Also, it keeps throwing me into battles, that are already over, ffs.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Erebosaither on May 25, 2014, 09:29:05 pm
I will join axis  :twisted:
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Sniger on May 26, 2014, 12:14:57 am
feels like a mix of wolf:et and dayz! im sold lol


nick "horked"
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Leesin on May 26, 2014, 04:33:00 pm
Well I've played a few games and I'm liking it. I did want to play as ze Germans but they were overpopulated apparently so I joined the US. Oh and I killed a BF109-E with my Garand.

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Ok not so much killed it with my Garand, it was flying really low and I started shooting him, he jerked his planes movement and hit some scenery or something and smashed into tiny pieces, but it said I killed him with my Garand and everyone lol'd  :lol:. Reminds me of WW2 Online ( Think it's called Battleground Europe now or some shit ) because I remember killing pilots with Rifles and Sub Machine Guns when I was on a roof top and they flew too low, always embarassing when you read what killed you after you died in that game and it says some dude with a rifle, what a waste of a plane.

Having fun with this though, but I'm not sure what route I want to go with it yet, my first instinct would to be a pilot as I played a lot as a Pilot in WW2 Online and of course IL-2 Sturmovik ( WW2 flying sim, I guess most should know this ) and I was pretty good at it aswell as having a lot of fun, but I don't have a joystick anymore, only a gamepad and I don't know what the controls will be like or if that will even work with it. Think I might just stick with Infantry with this first character, I can buy the US jeep thing now with the MG on the back so I'll probably get that.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: AntiBlitz on May 26, 2014, 05:22:34 pm
Well I've played a few games and I'm liking it. I did want to play as ze Germans but they were overpopulated apparently so I joined the US. Oh and I killed a BF109-E with my Garand.

(click to show/hide)

Ok not so much killed it with my Garand, it was flying really low and I started shooting him, he jerked his planes movement and hit some scenery or something and smashed into tiny pieces, but it said I killed him with my Garand and everyone lol'd  :lol:. Reminds me of WW2 Online ( Think it's called Battleground Europe now or some shit ) because I remember killing pilots with Rifles and Sub Machine Guns when I was on a roof top and they flew too low, always embarassing when you read what killed you after you died in that game and it says some dude with a rifle, what a waste of a plane.

Having fun with this though, but I'm not sure what route I want to go with it yet, my first instinct would to be a pilot as I played a lot as a Pilot in WW2 Online and of course IL-2 Sturmovik ( WW2 flying sim, I guess most should know this ) and I was pretty good at it aswell as having a lot of fun, but I don't have a joystick anymore, only a gamepad and I don't know what the controls will be like or if that will even work with it. Think I might just stick with Infantry with this first character, I can buy the US jeep thing now with the MG on the back so I'll probably get that.

well the planes fly like shit in this game, so going pilot like i did right off the bat was a poor idea.  Though on that note, i have one of everything now anyways.  The planes are just super unrealistic, whether its the flying mechanics or the 2k rounds of ammunition you spew at them to onl y knock the pilot out and not damage the plane.  Just ridiculous that someone can dive a AA battery and shoot someone out of the seat of it, yet the plane flies away nearly unscathed.  I know they are working on things, one day they will work on the planes, i just think they are focusing on filling out the rest of the game.  In the past 3 months, this game has changed quite alot.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on May 26, 2014, 07:47:44 pm
K, i've figured out that i can't make any income, if i'm playing with modified ammo, apparently :/

My biggest gripe right now is that i get thrown into these terribly one-sided (against me) battles - Infantry only (no anti-tank) vs Heavy tanks+Mechanised Infantry+Whatever? Sure, go ahead.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Leesin on May 26, 2014, 08:08:28 pm
K, i've figured out that i can't make any income, if i'm playing with modified ammo, apparently :/

My biggest gripe right now is that i get thrown into these terribly one-sided (against me) battles - Infantry only (no anti-tank) vs Heavy tanks+Mechanised Infantry+Whatever? Sure, go ahead.

Well on my third match I got put into a game with tank and planes, I went 12 - 4 k/d and captured points which I would say is okay. I just played smart and patient, move quickly, take cover, study my surroundings, then move again if it was safe. The majority of the kills I got was because I spotted the enemy before he spotted me, or in fact he probably couldn't see me at all, which you wont be able to do if you're running about like a headless chicken or just not looking at your surroundings enough.

In that same match, half of my kills were in 1 life, because I had hid in a house along a path where the enemy was coming through, I shot about 3 guys before they realised I was even in the house and then when 2 of them assaulted it, I killed them both with grenades as they stupidly tried to climb the ladder without even throwing a grenade up first. I was only killed in a firefight I had left the house to help my team mates push.

So I'd say if you are struggling, you probably aren't playing 'smart' enough ( not saying you aren't smart, just that your approach to the game and the fights within the game aren't smart ). I'm also earning at least 4-5k per match ( without the premium bonus ) so yeah it must be the modification.

 I think in that third match I got my best shot out of the 5 matches I've played so far, some annoying guy on a bike was pedaling away from me in the distance all over the place, making me miss shots, until he must have been a few hundred metres away when I hit him in the head and shot him off his shitty fucking bike.

well the planes fly like shit in this game, so going pilot like i did right off the bat was a poor idea.  Though on that note, i have one of everything now anyways.  The planes are just super unrealistic, whether its the flying mechanics or the 2k rounds of ammunition you spew at them to onl y knock the pilot out and not damage the plane.  Just ridiculous that someone can dive a AA battery and shoot someone out of the seat of it, yet the plane flies away nearly unscathed.  I know they are working on things, one day they will work on the planes, i just think they are focusing on filling out the rest of the game.  In the past 3 months, this game has changed quite alot.

Thanks for the heads up, think I will give the planes a miss for now, plenty of enjoyment to be had elsewhere until they fix/balance planes. Just bought the US jeep with the MG on it to have a little fun with.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on May 26, 2014, 08:42:32 pm
Well, there's not much smart you can do, when your spawn is camped by a number of tanks and snipers and no one on your team has any anti-tank weaponry.

How does melee weapon hit detection work? I bought a shovel, yet all my attacks just pass through people :/
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: AntiBlitz on May 27, 2014, 02:28:22 am
Well, there's not much smart you can do, when your spawn is camped by a number of tanks and snipers and no one on your team has any anti-tank weaponry.

How does melee weapon hit detection work? I bought a shovel, yet all my attacks just pass through people :/

dont use the auto join stuff to join battles, probably the worst way to play, go to the generals stuff and look at battles going on, and whats supplied in such battles and join from there.  Or, if that is too troublesome, or you cant really get your head around the map system, look through the list of battles going on, and click over to the resources, view them, and make the appropriate choices on which to join.  The battles that are completely one sided more often then not are the ones populated by auto-joiners who have no idea that they are essentially fucking themselves and others for like 30mins while they are spawn camped with Tigers.

Probably the most bothersome points of this game so far for me are;

The proning 5 second animation, ffs, why must i piss about and take my time to get on the ground, as if just buckling your knees and flopping to the ground is somehow a difficult 5 second struggle.

Weapon gets stuck and refuses to fire when peaking out of doors with long rifles and being too close to a wall or obstacle like say a low wall.  I understand it being realistic to have trouble with a rifle in a confined space, but i more often then not am killed because my gun will bring me out of iron sights and completely refuse to fire because i was just a hair bit too close to a wall or door frame.

Why can a tank travel up the side of a mountain, sit on said mountain, and fire shells from across the map and obliterate everything.  Very frustrating as your tank doesnt have the gun depression to shoot up that mountain, while he can shoot down.  The shells also have the same penetration no matter the distance, so even though his shell shot 3km, its still going to slug its way through your armor.  This is most notably seen on the airfield mission, and the rail yard mission.  They need to either make those areas off limits, or make the tanks truly struggle to get up there. 

The melee system is fooked, dont bother attempting to hit anyone who has seen you coming with it, you have to be touching each others noses together to hit anyone.  The melee is only good for when you have snuck up on someone and hit them literally unaware.  One day they will fix it, christ sake it took em around a year just to realize that grenades are meant to clear rooms and arent just party popper child's toys.

Fucks sake the spawn campers, i dont know how many matches ive played as the allies where i have had atleast one german scum hunkered down beyond my spawn point shooting people as they spawned, or waited for them to climb on the bike and killed them.  They have talked about spawn protection for years, yet do not want to implement it for some unknown reason.  It took months of complaining just to get them to make your tanker spawn with the fucking hatch closed because of so many fuck heads ruining the game by just waiting beyond spawn and shooting a tanker as he spawns, then stealing his tank. 

Once you become a general of your own troops, you will literally beg for a system to ban people from assault teams, i cant even begin to assess how much in game money i have lost from fuck heads leaving tanks to cap spawn points, or taking a half track out and driving it into the belly of a tiger tank.  I cry as i watch my funds and army get shit down the drain and reappear in London.  The praise i would give if i could remove people from using those vehicles or assault teams would be great.  Its really hard to rally pubbies, its even harder to make them not destroy your economy.

Mobile AA, please, please fucking add this, so many goddamn planes, 109's fucking everywhere, and the AA guns are always out of ammo, some schmuck climbs in it, shoots the mountains and air surrounding it for a minute, wastes the ammo, then leaves it sitting there.  Why must i use a bazooka to blow up my own AA so that it will respawn with more ammo.  What kind of fuckhead made that system up, and why are you paying them to craft such brilliant ideas.  Not to mention how functionally inferior they are to a plane; if you do not kill the pilot as he is diving you, he will more often then not shoot you out of the seat of the AA and if this does not succeed he will follow that up with a bomb that will. 

the planes, dear god the planes, are all flying fortresses, they take thousands of rounds to bring them down.  The flight mechanics are crude, there isnt any sort of altitude system, you cannot run away, nor use any sort of aerobatic maneuvers to outplay an opponent, more often then not my best way to get someone off my plane was to just force them run out of mouse pad or just give up spinning in circles.  You cannot adjust the planes lateral movement with the mouse, only with the A and D keys, which make strafing runs a bitch to perform as you constantly over shoot your targets.   The only badge worth a damn as a pilot is the bomber one which increases the amount of bombs your plane can hold, which to me is just absurd as is, just silly seeing a 109 drop 4 bombs off his plane.  They really need to add better flight models, increase the flight ceiling and create proper damage models.

The parachute, i fucking spam the button for it to open, yet, i still die about 40-50% of the time from it not opening.  Then on to the next part of this rant, the ass clown pubbies using it like they are paratroopers just for the assault weapons, so they waste the planes when they are on your team, and just annoy the fucking hell out of you when they are enemies by spawn camping you from a point which is beyond what they can capture anyways.

So helluva rant, but im sure as you play, you will see these things.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Leesin on May 27, 2014, 07:45:52 am
Lol, I myself noticed how weak the AA was, it felt, sounded and looked like I was firing a multi-barreled automatic peashooter, that just sprayed frozen peas into the enemy plane, it was laughable.

Also, the Machine guns I've witnessed and used myself so far all feel pathetic, like weak peanut splerging guns. The MG on the back of the US 1/4 4x4 just seems like a joke, it sounds pathetic, it feels like you're just throwing a handful of runny shit at the enemy when you awkwardly spray in their direction with it, having shot some guy 3 times with it as he ran along to see him still running was laughable. The guns on the back of the 4x4's leave the gunners vulnerable as it is, at least make them hit hard enough to put enemies down without having to headshot them or find someone stupid enough to stand directly infront of one for a few seconds.

All the machine guns need beefing up, they need to sound devastating AND actually be devastating, there are countless games where these WW2 MG's feel, sound and act this way without them being OP, because you counter it by making them harder to use with movement issues etc.

I'm sure I'll find more things that will bug me, but I'm still having a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Oberyn on May 27, 2014, 07:47:52 am
The AA is more usefull as a light vehicle and infantry killer than as AA yeah its not well implemented. Also MG's are already overpowered as fuck. I loot an MG42 from dead enemies as soon as I spot one. Stationary MG's on trucks and shit, it's actually really useful when stopped and from a large distance. Driving around or directly into enemies at full speed and shooting is a recipe for getting killed though.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Leesin on May 27, 2014, 08:07:54 am
I hit some guy 3 times with a mounted MG from 40 metres away and he just carries on running like it was only a fly shitting on him, I really don't think they're that powerful lol.

MG on the 4x4 is pretty bad regardless of your location and distance because of how vulnerable the gunner is, the reward doesn't match the risk. I have killed guys hitting me with that MG at me from all distances using my Garand, because 9 times out of 10 even if they can get the drop on me I can get cover or a better position to fire from before their bullets can kill me, which leaves me with an easy target to hit in the chest or head.

Also, does it cost your reward EVERYTIME you spawn your 4x4, or if you spawn it at all? I spawned mine a few times in a match and my reward was next to nothing, if I spawn it just once will it not dent my reward so bad?.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on May 27, 2014, 09:55:31 am
MG42 is OP as hell, accuracy and hitting power almost that of a rifle, yet full auto and with super easy to use sights.

Melee, apparently, is completely broken right now, i'll just assume it's beta and they haven't gotten around to making melee weapons actually hit stuff just yet.

Guess i'll take Antis advice and pick my battles from now on.

It actually costs YOU to spawn with vehicles? That seems kind of dumb...
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Leesin on May 27, 2014, 10:39:12 am
MG42 is OP as hell, accuracy and hitting power almost that of a rifle, yet full auto and with super easy to use sights.

Melee, apparently, is completely broken right now, i'll just assume it's beta and they haven't gotten around to making melee weapons actually hit stuff just yet.

Guess i'll take Antis advice and pick my battles from now on.

It actually costs YOU to spawn with vehicles? That seems kind of dumb...

Well yeah, the MG42 did seem pretty good, but that's about the only MG I've seen so far to be relatively feared.

Yeah, I am pretty certain it did cost me, I don't know how much exactly, or what the breakdown is, i.e if it takes a bit of reward away everytime you spawn one or if it just reduces your reward to a small amount of what it could have been regardless of how many you spawn. But I'm pretty confident it did reduce my reward MASSIVELY when I considered my score and how long I had played etc, I have had bad games and got far more rewards because I never used my 4x4.

I can understand why it would cost to use them, so not everyone is constantly spamming them, but it seems stupid to also have a repair cost if that's the case.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Latvian on May 27, 2014, 11:42:35 am
I joined as well i took germans and my name is Latviano, hit me up when someone wants to play, i have no idea how this works
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Joseph Porta on May 27, 2014, 11:43:55 am
Is this game heavy on the rig? I want to try it out but im afraid itll be laggyish
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on May 27, 2014, 12:14:52 pm
Runs fine on my 5-6 year old PC.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Mala on May 27, 2014, 09:32:05 pm
my first impression was a quite arcardish gameplay. rifles and lmg share the same ammunition but have different damage values.
not to mention my connection to the server, it is hard to hit something with the rifle if nearly everyone skates the through landscape.

the controls are horrible. why i have to press the prone key again to sprint or crouch?
anyway, the game became a lot better as i have unlocked the lmg. mg camper whore still works for me :) .
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Leesin on May 28, 2014, 06:42:27 am
Well okay, it seems I was quite wrong about Machine Guns in one aspect, they would be fine or could be better based around using them how they were actually used. But they are OP as fuck when it comes to the fact some guy can hold one like rambo and kill you with it easily whilst strafing, retaining pretty much perfect accuracy even from a long distance, how the fuck did they work that one into the gameplay?. I really hope they will fix these MGs so they are powerful in their own role, i.e generally stationary roles, with big spray if they aren't prone or crouch next to sandbag or rock etc, they should not be some uber assault rifle being carried Rambo style, it's just lame all around.

My other gripe is that the populations on each side seem horribly imbalanced at times and the Axis pretty much steam roll everything, they have a better bunch of generals and I often notice the Axis players as a bunch just seem to be better than half the spam brained bundle of stickss I have to play alongside with on the US. So yeah Axis win a lot and people seem to want to join them because of that, the "If you can't win, join them" crowd are a pretty lame bunch when it comes to gaming, I am glad I joined US because it's obvious they need more players who want to team work and want to play smart.

Just last match I played there were many "wtf are you doing" moments, guy stops to pick me up in his 4x4, being the team player I am I'm like "Ok thanks", as we drive along, we come under fire from a tank, you can clearly hear the tank and it's gun on our left and even see the incoming fire from the left, yet the retard driver actually turns left TOWARDS the tank in his "evasive maneuvers", I think I typed "GO RIGHT" about 3 times before we were blown to pieces lol.

Another is just generally team mates driving straight into the middle of enemy capture point, expecting to fly out of the 4x4, kill 5 Germans whilst spinning in the air, then capture the point, but what usually happens is that they drive straight into the capture point and get shot to fucking pieces in 2 seconds flat. It feels like half the US players do not understand that this is NOT the way to approach or attack a capture point, they don't understand flanking, or a cautious approach, just drive straight into the fucking middle and get fucked in their vaginas.

Anyway, I'm saving for the BAR now, I have 112k but I need 127 lol, I would have held off buying the 4x4 if I knew how expensive the BAR was, but hey once I get the BAR I can start using my 4x4 again too, plus have some awesome firepower. I do like the Garand but I  find myself in a lot of shorter ranged fights where it suffers vs pretty much every Axis weapon barring the Karabiner, even the Gehwer 43, as the Garand has a much worst iron sight that hogs your screen. I used some guys BAR and it was nice, still useful at range but also has nice closer range ability.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on May 28, 2014, 01:08:26 pm
Yeah. Pick a battle, that only seems to have infantry on either side. By the time you actually get into the battle, the germans are reinforced by medium armor, tank destroyers and planes.

Gewehr43 not only has better ironsights, but it also seems to have far less recoil, making it just so much easier to use than Garand, i always switch, when i get the chance. Saving up for the american bolt-action rifle, hoping to make my first guy into recon at some point.

Mounted MGs are pretty awful in general, take like 4 hits or so to kill anyone, whilst usually having a very limited arc of fire, being nigh unuseable whilst driving due to some issues and leaving you super mega vulnerable to anything.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Oberyn on May 28, 2014, 01:32:37 pm
So yeah this game pretty much just makes me want to load up RO1 or 2 again. I love the idea and the maps/models work well, I give zero shits about graphics and the ones they use are serviceable, but the arcadey mechanics just kills it for me. Something exactly like this but with RO type mechanics (i.e more "realistic", two shot kills at most, shot to the legs cripples enemy, not using mg's like they're fucking automatic rifles, etc) would be so cool, but it wouldn't leave much room for the pay2win model it's based on, sadly. Can't sell overpowered gimicky bullshit to impatient nerds if the game is actually balanced.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Leesin on May 28, 2014, 03:41:15 pm
I wouldn't say it's pay2win, I've not payed a penny and I'm consistently getting good KDR, between 2 to 4 kills per death and now I have my BAR I have got 20-30 kills in quite a few matches with the gun alone. It's really just pay for convenience, i.e time saving, the only thing I can think of is that with the premium account you get an extra combat badge which yes can make a difference, but I've not had it and still coming top or near top of scoreboard. But yeah, they really need to work on balancing and also balancing guns into their roles.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: aomas on May 28, 2014, 05:04:37 pm
Hi there again,

IM HERE AGAIN, still waiting for most of u guys to JOIN crpg CHAT channel in H&G, only four guys there for now join there and we can chat more easily and add friends if necessary the chat works even if you are playing allies or axis.

Some of you guys who want to start playing game and have not yet created account, put this on the "redeem code" you will get free gold when you start playing.

"IGN-H&G-Gold-Giveaway" in the promotional code you will recieve additional GOLD to the start.
- another code - GAMES-HEROESANDGENERALS-GOLD
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: BlindGuy on May 28, 2014, 05:11:26 pm
This still excists? LOL maybe I should find my old account, havent played this for 2 years or so... I remember I have a sniper company with motorbikes and a bunch of paratroopers...

But the game was kinda bad tbh, with bad hit detection, few maps, repetetive gameplay...
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: aomas on May 28, 2014, 05:12:48 pm
There are still too few maps, but the vehicles and weaponry has been increased which makes a somewhat interesting gameplay! btw paratroopers are rarity :) as those are reworked and disabled unless u already had a paratrooper.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: BlindGuy on May 28, 2014, 05:15:06 pm
There are still too few maps, but the vehicles and weaponry has been increased which makes a somewhat interesting gameplay! btw paratroopers are rarity :) as those are reworked and disabled unless u already had a paratrooper.

Hmmm looks like Im in demand once again. Maybe Ill download it this weekend and show you the true might of ZE GERMAN VAR MACHINE!
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: AntiBlitz on May 28, 2014, 05:16:28 pm
seems i left out the lmg's in my rant lol, im glad everyone thinks the same as me.  Maybe they should do like the old Call of duty game, CoD4? i think, the lmg could only be fired while laying prone, if they implemented something similar, made it into a more support style of weapon, you would get rid of the rambo gunners.  I'd actually had preferred if the teams had started with the weapons they most realistically used.  I'd had like to have seen the axis start with K98's instead of gewehrs, i understand this would cause the "unfair" issue to be brought up, but if they implemented better damage modeling i think they could really pull it off.  Though, i guess now its a little too late,  i just want the damage output to be a little stronger, a little harsher, i would want to shy away from the arcadey CoD experience and go more towards RO. 

Im not sure how others feel about this, but i would love a medic class, i loved, absolutely loved being a medic in the older CoD and BF games and would totally do it again if it was implemented.  I also wish they would bring up the player count a little higher in games, would be nice to have battles of atleast 30v30.  At times, areas seem just desolate.

Anyways, idk if people know this or not, but when holding the mg's(idk if its true with the BAR, or the mg34, i dont own those) you cant fire it unless you are walking, or not moving, to walk you hold down i think "x" or something, i cant remember, i have my keys rebound, x for me is prone lol.  Either way i think its a little cheesy to do it.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on May 30, 2014, 06:17:13 pm
Guys, what side are you picking on this war?
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Latvian on May 30, 2014, 06:25:38 pm
muricans cuz we like to lose wars. youa re welcome to come to merc ts where me and idzo and haboe and krampe and djavo and dave and hevi are playing most of the time, oh and grandmom too.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Sniger on May 30, 2014, 09:30:50 pm
ive picked germans  :twisted:
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 01, 2014, 05:50:20 pm
Another war started today, i'm picking Germans, sick to death of playing against Pz38ts with my M1 Garand.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Latvian on June 01, 2014, 06:06:25 pm
Another war started today, i'm picking Germans, sick to death of playing against Pz38ts with my M1 Garand.
now you cn play vs stuarts with your german rifle :D
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 01, 2014, 06:25:41 pm
Except the Germans got armor superiority in pretty much every battle. :|
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Leesin on June 01, 2014, 06:41:51 pm
Tell that to the 27 Germans that just got pasted by my BAR, funniest part is when 7 of them came after me in the big church after I killed both of their snipers on the roof and I fucking rekt them all, stalk, ambush, re-position, repeat. They must have felt like the soldiers in Predator, because I felt like Predator when most of them didn't know wtf had hit them and their friends couldn't find me, until I shot them.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 01, 2014, 06:52:21 pm
Allied soldiers are somewhat harder to see, i've noticed. Still, as German, i can just hit Random mission and pretty much always get a good and easy battle in my favor, whereas with allies the only missions where you don't get stomped by your enemy fielding no less than 5 pz38ts at a time is when you go into training missions.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Banok on June 01, 2014, 08:15:35 pm
This sounds fun but how many players per battle?

I really want a ww1 or ww2 version of planetside.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Latvian on June 01, 2014, 09:03:55 pm
18 vs 18 is pretty much maximal
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Leesin on June 01, 2014, 11:04:55 pm
This sounds fun but how many players per battle?

I really want a ww1 or ww2 version of planetside.

The only game I know of like that is WW2 Online ( or Battleground Europe as it's called now ), in its prime it was an amazing game and even not so long ago when they improved some of the graphics and made a lot of major changes it was still pretty good, but everything I read today as I was thinking about playing it again was that it's pretty damn dead not to mention really outdated. You can of course create a free account to try it out but I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you.

I used to love it though, got fairly high ranks for British Army and also Royal Air Force so I could use a lot of good stuff. I had a lot of fun flying the Hurricane MkIIC, I would dive bomb boats, army bases or tanks with it's two 500lb bombs then strafe targets or shoot enemy planes with the 4 cannons ( although very limited ammo ). It was quite satisfying to drop a bomb on a boat and hit something critical and pretty much destroy the boat in one bomb.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 01, 2014, 11:27:13 pm
Modding components, not ammo, seems well sustainable. Modded my Gewehr 43 extensively, upping accuracy, stability and damage, whilst losing some range. Have an almost recoil-less, precise rifle, that kills in 2 hits mostly :)
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: okiN on June 01, 2014, 11:28:28 pm
Does this game still have super dodgy and arcadey gameplay?
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Banok on June 01, 2014, 11:36:45 pm
The only game I know of like that is WW2 Online ( or Battleground Europe as it's called now ), in its prime it was an amazing game and even not so long ago when they improved some of the graphics and made a lot of major changes it was still pretty good, but everything I read today as I was thinking about playing it again was that it's pretty damn dead not to mention really outdated. You can of course create a free account to try it out but I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you.

I used to love it though, got fairly high ranks for British Army and also Royal Air Force so I could use a lot of good stuff. I had a lot of fun flying the Hurricane MkIIC, I would dive bomb boats, army bases or tanks with it's two 500lb bombs then strafe targets or shoot enemy planes with the 4 cannons ( although very limited ammo ). It was quite satisfying to drop a bomb on a boat and hit something critical and pretty much destroy the boat in one bomb.

Yeah I heard it was great, I was hoping this was an updated version but 18v18 is a bit of a letdown.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Idzo on June 02, 2014, 11:57:07 pm
Started playin this game week ago. my first char is almost maxed out :D
Loads of cash, guns and few assoults team. wining 99% of battles as American.

Ez. Join.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 03, 2014, 06:50:50 pm
Met DaveUKR. What i've realised is that, whilst the Germans almost always have (more) tanks and some really good weapons, this is somewhat compensated by the fact that the average player on German teams is really, really bad. Most games i feel like i'm the only infantry player on my team actually trying to achieve the objectives and killing enemies.

Just got into a random domination battle. You know, the one with the 2 points in a forest and the third on a hill. It was over in 2-3 minutes, with german side not managing to capture even the point closest to their spawn, despite outnumbering US by at least 2 players. US side had 2-3 MG armed guys on it at the start. I killed one, got killed by another. That made me one of two players on my team to actually score a kill.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: AntiBlitz on June 03, 2014, 07:09:42 pm
Met DaveUKR. What i've realised is that, whilst the Germans almost always have (more) tanks and some really good weapons, this is somewhat compensated by the fact that the average player on German teams is really, really bad. Most games i feel like i'm the only infantry player on my team actually trying to achieve the objectives and killing enemies.

Just got into a random domination battle. You know, the one with the 2 points in a forest and the third on a hill. It was over in 2-3 minutes, with german side not managing to capture even the point closest to their spawn, despite outnumbering US by at least 2 players. US side had 2-3 MG armed guys on it at the start. I killed one, got killed by another. That made me one of two players on my team to actually score a kill.

all the german infantry probably took a wagon to the U.S spawn per the norm, then proceeded to spawn camp until they inevitable loss.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 03, 2014, 07:16:25 pm
No, they just got slaughtered like cattle en route to the closest point by the two guys with MGs there. :|
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: AntiBlitz on June 03, 2014, 09:42:07 pm
No, they just got slaughtered like cattle en route to the closest point by the two guys with MGs there. :|

whats sad is that they stated they wanted to add a squad mechanics system similar to what red orchestra 2 has, which would remove teams being littered with mg's, creating group fireteams.  They obviously forebode that idea and went for the cash cow of selling weapons.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Christo on June 03, 2014, 10:37:45 pm
I remember playing this years ago, my only memory is that it ran like shit on my PC, and I was fighting tanks with my Karabiner.

Fun.

I'll try it this time with muricans, see how much they've done since then
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Nightmare798 on June 03, 2014, 11:37:51 pm
Hope this is not another P2W buggy russian-biased bullshit like wot...
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Idzo on June 03, 2014, 11:40:26 pm
Americans are outnumbered and against odds.

But when you play with your team on ts. everything is possible.

Its bit hard till you get bazooka but after that it makes your life easier.

Thing is that germans now have that mg42 with is really OP.

Devs are doing great work but they admitted that balacing is not priority atm.

Today was patch and they fixed maps and lots of bugs. This game has very bright future.

Not to mention that this games has it own strategues in WW II.


Worth of trying guys.
pick americans and contact me, i can help you throu game!
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 04, 2014, 12:14:49 am
The american M1919 (or whatever its called) MG is just as OP as MG42, because they both have great accuracy, firerate and damage and handle like uber assault rifles, basically.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Idzo on June 04, 2014, 01:09:32 am
The american M1919 (or whatever its called) MG is just as OP as MG42, because they both have great accuracy, firerate and damage and handle like uber assault rifles, basically.

MG has 30 bullets more. and 2  hit at any range m1919 not rly


btw. just finiehd map where i took mg 42 and made 37:5 K/D

ez
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 06, 2014, 02:07:48 pm
How did US win last war, despite losing most battles?

Also, with the way now almost everyone is running around with LMGs, this game should be renamed to Rambos and Generals
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Christo on June 06, 2014, 03:54:24 pm
Wut, the Fritz lost a war?

I'd actually like to play this but it runs like shit, but it doesn't look that good or "next-gen".

I would be fine with lower than usual FPS but I can't aim and fire consistently.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Idzo on June 08, 2014, 12:34:05 pm
When did you tried to play it last time?
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Christo on June 08, 2014, 12:54:31 pm
Two days ago.

It ran like shit still.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Sniger on June 08, 2014, 02:23:35 pm
i have no lag whatsoever. only issue is sometimes when i start the game, the plugin doesnt load or its failing while loading so i have to restart the client/browser. but fps wise it runs smooth here np at all
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Idzo on June 08, 2014, 04:57:42 pm
i still didnt encountered single problem.
maybe overload during prime time but that's known thing.

No fps, no ping problems, everything is smooth.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 08, 2014, 05:44:10 pm
Made an account too.
"Prothos"
Gonna be US. Honestly I would have perfered british, but whatcha gonna do.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Christo on June 08, 2014, 06:01:11 pm
I guess my config simply isn't good enough for this game, but it doesn't look like anything special.

Either that or it's not optimized for my hardware, not much has changed.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Sniger on June 08, 2014, 06:29:11 pm
must say im really in love with this one. i cant explain what it is. back in the day i use to play wolfenstein: enemy territory ALOT and the feel and i dunno the atmosphere in H&G just reminds me of wolf:et. also when running around on the bigger maps, im getting the dayz feeling, oddly enough.

i think its really cool that players is the ones generating the maps sort of speak. when you play generals, you buy some assault teams using the warfunds you earn when playing hero. you use the teams to attack enemy positions on the map (precise map of north/west europe with UK, denmark and germany with all the real town and city names) and when you as general attack a location, the troops and armor and amount of same (tickets) you used will be available for the hero-players.

i saved up for a long time to buy my very first assault team (guard) then i deployed it and a couple hours later they were dead :p back to scrath, i will consider my moves abit more next time heh :p
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 08, 2014, 08:43:09 pm
Oh man theres no parashooter class? Sad. I really wanted to be one.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: AntiBlitz on June 08, 2014, 09:11:30 pm
Oh man theres no parashooter class? Sad. I really wanted to be one.

they had one, they ended up removing them.  So only the really old players have them.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: AntiBlitz on June 09, 2014, 12:22:47 am

Wow then I still have it, never even played it tho, just bought it for fun.

they suck as of now, only a person with a paratrooper soldier can play as the paratroopers, so in turn, even if you added them to a battle, you would be the only one able to use them.  Most people use them now to create battles and halt movement for hours until the auto resolve fixes the problem.  Very annoying, as generals will pepper the towns around it and you will have like 30 troops halting 10k troops movements for 6 hours.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Idzo on June 09, 2014, 12:18:13 pm
ATM. devs are working on paratroopers and they want to rework map a bit
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 10, 2014, 07:54:46 pm
Sometimes matchmaking just goes YOLO. Just had a domination game in the forest, 3 US vs 5 Germans, me being on US with a Garand. Went 25/2 or so, singlehandedly holding the point closest to their spawn, but the 2 teammates i had absolutely refused to do anything useful the entire game.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: DaveUKR on June 10, 2014, 08:00:18 pm
must say im really in love with this one. i cant explain what it is. back in the day i use to play wolfenstein: enemy territory ALOT and the feel and i dunno the atmosphere in H&G just reminds me of wolf:et

Same thing here. Was speaking in ts with Nostalgia about W:ET and on the next day Idzo with Latvian invited me to play this game. This is a good game that has a good future if they don't give it up.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 10, 2014, 08:48:42 pm
Maxing stability and upping damage some on semi-auto rifles is an amazing weapon modding choice, so very worth it, makes the weapon superb at almost any range, except maybe close up against SMGs (but you still stand a chance most of the time)
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 11, 2014, 07:11:42 am
How the hell do I unlock anti-tank weapons? I need tankdestroyer ribbons to unluck them and the only way to get em is to destroy tanks, but I cant destroy tanks cause I have no tankdestroyingequipment unlocked. Makes sense to me. Finding those panzerfausts on the ground is quite rare and other stuff doesnt seem to do anything to em. Quess il wait till i fill up on that gold and buy the grenades with that.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: AntiBlitz on June 11, 2014, 08:17:46 am
How the hell do I unlock anti-tank weapons? I need tankdestroyer ribbons to unluck them and the only way to get em is to destroy tanks, but I cant destroy tanks cause I have no tankdestroyingequipment unlocked. Makes sense to me. Finding those panzerfausts on the ground is quite rare and other stuff doesnt seem to do anything to em. Quess il wait till i fill up on that gold and buy the grenades with that.

there is a panzerfaust in every spawning location on the map for the most part, so they are free essentially.  They are in little wood crates.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 11, 2014, 12:40:30 pm
There are panzerfausts in some spawn points. On some maps, they are very readily available, on others - not so much. Was defending airfield as US yesterday, destroyed like 5 tanks and damaged more, using just the panzerfausts in one of the spawnpoints. Tank destroyer level 2 get. Now i'm going to be running around with AT mines :twisted:
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Sniger on June 11, 2014, 12:40:50 pm
also using nades will give access to some AT eq. via the explosive ribbon (afair)
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 11, 2014, 12:45:04 pm
You get the Bazooka/Panzerschreck that way, iirc.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: AntiBlitz on June 11, 2014, 04:09:43 pm
There are panzerfausts in some spawn points. On some maps, they are very readily available, on others - not so much. Was defending airfield as US yesterday, destroyed like 5 tanks and damaged more, using just the panzerfausts in one of the spawnpoints. Tank destroyer level 2 get. Now i'm going to be running around with AT mines :twisted:

careful with the AT mines, as friendlies can die to them as well even though they add a little bomb symbol to the map/
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 11, 2014, 05:32:06 pm
Think i'll just use them like i do pzFausts - grab them, get on a bike, sneakily bike behind some tank :D

Surprising how many kills/disabled tanks you can make this way, a lot of tank drivers abandon tank, when you fire a pzFaust at them from behind, probably thinking that theres a tank firing on them or something... only to get immediately gunned down by you :D
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 11, 2014, 06:29:31 pm
ptx, what the hell are those creatures in that gif?
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 11, 2014, 06:58:25 pm
 :lol:
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: DaveUKR on June 11, 2014, 09:48:56 pm
careful with the AT mines, as friendlies can die to them as well even though they add a little bomb symbol to the map/

I must be retarded, I destroyed them all when I saw these symbols. I was like "right, it's like in W:ET, you detect mine and can destroy it"
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 12, 2014, 05:39:53 am
Man ptx u were right about upgrading semi-automatics. Upgraded my Garand to give out a lot of damage and it did turn into a jack of all trades. The thing hits like a firetruck now. Good range, good firerate, serius damage. Got like a score of 28/9 while defending some objective. Weapon worked so well in close quaters and medium distance. The only issue I did have was when it was really tight quaters and where u bump into walls a lot, u raise your weapon and u cant make shots.

I really like this game. Wierd cause ive tried a lot of multiplayer games and  ive never really felt like sticking to any of em. This one is really growing on me for some reason.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 12, 2014, 11:52:54 am
Did you also up the stability? Stability is king for SA rifles :)
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 12, 2014, 08:00:07 pm
Ehhh. No. I ran out of cash. Bought some bullets and a new barrel. Need to grind moar.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 12, 2014, 10:46:08 pm
Don't go for bullets, way too expensive to maintain.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: AntiBlitz on June 12, 2014, 11:52:25 pm
Don't go for bullets, way too expensive to maintain.

ya you will be shelling out cash to pay for the bullets, they are impossible to maintain, its almost something you would only want to put on in a battle that you think you need every advantage you can get.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 13, 2014, 06:03:10 am
Well shite.... but I bought em. The wierd thing is that it doesnt appear like im paying upkeep for the bullets, althou, I think im using em. I am clearly seeing that im paying for the barrel.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: DaveUKR on June 15, 2014, 09:46:06 am
add me so we can play together: DaveUKR
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 15, 2014, 11:09:35 am
Wait a second. I finally got it. I never checked the endbattle reports before on how much I gained cash and for what. Holy crap I payed 2,5k upkeep for the bullets per battle. And this whole time I figured i didnt pay anything for them, cause I never had to refill those bullets at the equipment screen, cause it always appeared to be maxed up. So the refill bullets thing isnt a working thing atm and upkeep for em is payed automatically at the end of the round? This is what happens when u at betastage and got half of the things working... :?
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 15, 2014, 12:08:36 pm
Wait a second. I finally got it. I never checked the endbattle reports before on how much I gained cash and for what. Holy crap I payed 2,5k upkeep for the bullets per battle. And this whole time I figured i didnt pay anything for them, cause I never had to refill those bullets at the equipment screen, cause it always appeared to be maxed up. So the refill bullets thing isnt a working thing atm and upkeep for em is payed automatically at the end of the round? This is what happens when u at betastage and got half of the things working... :?

Naw, you probably got it checked to auto-refill, just like you can auto-repair equipment and auto-refill grenades.

A fully upgraded gun (minus bullets) has never cost me more than 1k, even in very long battles. Bullet mods are bad.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 15, 2014, 03:12:56 pm
Some of these players are total noobs. Man, even when I started it was fully oblivious you never stand straight next to your friendly armor cause when enemy has planes it almost always gets bombed. Its safer to be prone in an empty field then to use your teammates tank as a cover.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 15, 2014, 04:00:38 pm
Not always, sometimes a tank is okay cover for rushing an objective. I'm more annoyed by how 8/10 players don't get the idea of going for objectives, rather than fighting uselessly towards them. Capture church? Rush the fuck inside and then fight, not camp some street outside.

Also, it's "obvious", not "oblivious".
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Leesin on June 15, 2014, 04:49:31 pm
Yeah I kinda haven't played this for a couple weeks now apart from occasionally moving my assault team, got really bored of the huge amount of players that seem to be mildly retarded at least.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: DaveUKR on June 15, 2014, 05:15:28 pm
There is an easy way to overwhelm enemies: gather in teamspeak, even if my team is in a huge disadvantage in pretty much everything - communication decides a lot. We should try it, a few people from crpg community play, worth trying. I can lend my teamspeak for these purposes: mercenaries.pro
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: GRANDMOM on June 16, 2014, 12:31:18 pm
There is an easy way to overwhelm enemies: gather in teamspeak, even if my team is in a huge disadvantage in pretty much everything - communication decides a lot. We should try it, a few people from crpg community play, worth trying. I can lend my teamspeak for these purposes: mercenaries.pro

Dave, post a time for when people should gather up in ts and go kick some butt, we are all used to teamwork more or less from strat and crpg - an occasional "shieldwall" order is the only thing that can go wrong really - im up for it, right now I have problems getting into the game for some reason though.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 16, 2014, 12:32:59 pm
If you are currently on German side, i'm up for some TS action now and then. Just bought myself an MP40, love it :)
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 16, 2014, 05:21:02 pm
Is recon worth it? Do I get a free sniper rifle once I join its branch?
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 16, 2014, 05:26:28 pm
I don't think so. Too many recons with standard BA rifles or even SAs.

Better question - can you equip and use a scoped rifle, if you stay with infantry?
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 16, 2014, 05:37:09 pm
I think so. All u need to unlock it is a ribon afterall. No indication that you cant use it when you are infantry. Also read in some forums that some guys do have it equiped on their inf.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 16, 2014, 05:39:32 pm
If that is so, what is the benefit of going recon class? Slightly harder to see due to different uniform?
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 16, 2014, 05:45:27 pm
According to the wiki they "can move in enemy occupied areas". Dunno what the hell is that supposed to mean. Cause I seem to be able to walk everywhere. Damn, this game for not having a proper wiki.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 16, 2014, 05:48:16 pm
I think that is for recon battle groups. I'm more interested in recon class ingame.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: DaveUKR on June 16, 2014, 05:55:46 pm
You don't get a free sniper rifle. And to say more: it's expensive as hell and you need upgrades for it as well. So don't go recon unless you have ~200k of credits
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Sniger on June 16, 2014, 07:38:27 pm
screw recon regardless :lol:
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: AntiBlitz on June 16, 2014, 09:28:22 pm
as an infantry player you have the ability to unlock the sniper rifle, though you must get the appropriate ribbon.  If you decide to become a recon, you get access to the classes sniper rifle and the anti-personnel mines, which are normally locked until the ribbon is completed.  If you decide after your trial period that you no longer wish to be a recon, the sniper rifle is then taken away due to your character not having the proper ribbon permissions, you essentially lose the 200k you spent on the rifle.  Other then the fact that the recon gets a pretty cool vehicle, a better uniform, and quicker access to its gear, its not much worth it.  Though, i have one of every class anyways, so you will be getting one eventually anyways.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Christo on June 17, 2014, 08:00:04 pm
Well now this game became more or less playable for me, which is good!
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Christo on June 18, 2014, 02:58:41 am
Man I have won only one game as the germans so far and I have played a few..

We always get destroyed, my guns are shitty and too weak while I get instant killed, or face tanks spam that I can't do anything to because I have no antitank weapons anywhere. Only time I found some on the back of vehicles, and that's it.

USA seems super op with their guns, I got nothing to fight back with.
Funny because it is other way around if I can trust sources
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 18, 2014, 05:53:46 am
Well the germans pretty much win every campaign. From the games ive played the germans have won like 60% of the time. And get your gun modified for moar damage asap. Then u can instakill em before they instakill u.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 18, 2014, 09:41:42 am
It's not the germans or US that are OP, it's mostly MGs and fully kitted out guns vs basic ones. A fully upgraded bolt-action rifle can kill in a single body hit, same with scoped rifles, fully upgraded SA rifle is both much more powerful and easier to use than a non-upgraded one, the starting SMG is completely shit, in comparison to other SMGs and LMGs are just stupidly powerful.

You get to fight against tanks on either side and, from my experience, usually it's the germans with the tank superiority. Avoid them, or get panzerfausts (found in boxes on many spawnpoints) on them.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 19, 2014, 05:53:17 am
I went for a bolt rifle this time. I must say, the extra range is quite sweet. Do I even need stability for it? Cause I can make only single shots anyway and if I dont kill the guy next to me in one hit im dogmeat. And does precision influence iron sights too? If not then im ditching that stat aswell.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 19, 2014, 09:13:32 am
Accuracy does affect iron sights as well and also affects weapon sway, afaik. I'm currently grinding BA as well, once i unlock modifications, i'll go for damage and range. Want to get a 1-hit killing rifle :)
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 19, 2014, 06:46:00 pm
Is it just me or are BA ribbons a massive fucking grind to get, in comparison to SA and SMG ribbons?
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 19, 2014, 07:30:37 pm
Kinda getting the same feeling. Im not killing so much thou, so I figured thats the reason why the points are coming so slow. With the modded SA my normal kills were like 20 per battle. With this unmodded BA its 9 average.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 19, 2014, 07:48:39 pm
I get kills with it as well, 20+ kills, many headshots. Still, progress is just... slooooooooowwwww. :/
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 20, 2014, 06:28:35 am
Hits give ribbonpoints aswell. I dont think the games advanced enough to give points based on damage. I think it only gives a certain ammount for kills, headshots and single hits. So my quess is since you do a lot more hits with automatic weapons then singleshot weps, u get more points with automatics.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 20, 2014, 10:38:33 am
Yeah, it's what i've figured. Pretty ugh, since an unmodded BA is probably one of the worst weapons in the game, having no real strong point.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 20, 2014, 01:12:20 pm
Man, i dont think I can do this much longer. Cant wait, til I finally unlock the damage increasing mods, BA is just complete shit. Pretty close to calling it quits and going back to SA.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 20, 2014, 01:16:07 pm
But then again, the few times i've picked up a fully modded BA have been pretty fucken sweet... ughhhhhhh...
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Christo on June 21, 2014, 07:22:06 am
Eh, I think I leave this game alone.

It runs like crap still, although somewhat better so I can fight. But it should be renamed to "P2W&Tankspam"
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 21, 2014, 07:55:32 am
Fair enough. The rambomachineguns are too much aswell.

How is it p2w? Seems more like p2progress type to me. And the progression doesnt seem too slow. Which is why im playin it a lot lately. But yea, if its running shit, then throw it aside.

Also I think I might buy the modified bullets for the BA. Cause im close to getting the barrel unlocked and far from the internal. Bullets and barrel should do some serius damage allowing me to make a lot of kills. Might cost a lot, but I need that damn ribbon more then I need money atm.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Taser on June 21, 2014, 08:44:59 am
Man I have won only one game as the germans so far and I have played a few..

We always get destroyed, my guns are shitty and too weak while I get instant killed, or face tanks spam that I can't do anything to because I have no antitank weapons anywhere. Only time I found some on the back of vehicles, and that's it.

USA seems super op with their guns, I got nothing to fight back with.
Funny because it is other way around if I can trust sources

Wut.

If the USA have super OP guns.. why the hell do they lose campaigns? Germans blitzed and swept aside opposition last campaign. I haven't played the new one yet so I don't know where the current one is but I assume the germans are winning again.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 21, 2014, 02:17:29 pm
One and a half ribbon levels from topping my BA.

Question to the vets - is maxing damage with weapon mods enough to make BA rifles kill in one hit, or do you need to use modified ammo as well?
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: AntiBlitz on June 21, 2014, 03:16:06 pm
One and a half ribbon levels from topping my BA.

Question to the vets - is maxing damage with weapon mods enough to make BA rifles kill in one hit, or do you need to use modified ammo as well?

the range of the weapon is one of the factors on damage apparently, so its good to make sure both range and damage are as high as possible, as the range decreases the bullets lost damage values at distance, where as the damage just well, increases its overall potential. 

i dont know if the values go beyond the 100%, but i dont believe you need the ammo to accomplish it.  Better to just give it a go and find out.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 21, 2014, 04:21:17 pm
One and a half ribbon levels from topping my BA.

Question to the vets - is maxing damage with weapon mods enough to make BA rifles kill in one hit, or do you need to use modified ammo as well?

A very curious question about that. If u pick up a dead guys modified rifle, do u use its modified ammo aswell? Cause I remember once you said u did pick up modded BAs that were epic. Somehow im getting the feeling that it wont be oneshotting without the ammo. Cause some guys ive hit 3 times with my BA at pointblank range and they still stood. They probably had that heavy set badge, but still.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 21, 2014, 09:28:55 pm
Alright, here is something i've realised far too late - make extra soldiers and specialise them in different weapons - such as having one for rifles, another for SMGs, etc. You can switch soldiers ingame, so you can have them for different situations.

I've only played with one soldier so far, got both BA rifles and MP40, etc bought and grinded out on it :/
Such a waste.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 22, 2014, 07:50:29 am
A BA fully modded to give out max damage will not oneshot without the bullets. I managed to get the barrel unlocked and I had the bullets bought aswell. So I tested it out. Modded bullets + barrel give about the same amount of damage as barrel + internal - bullets. It was pretty sweet cause even a slightly damaged enemy gets rekt hard. Guys with full HP still went down with 2 hits. Shot at quite medium range. Soooo yea. Want that thing to 1 shot, you gotta pay dat insane upkeep.

Fuck BAs. Im going back to my SA Garand. The thing 2 shots from decent distance and has very good firerate. Solid wep for everything.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 22, 2014, 12:14:47 pm
Aww, that is a shame :/
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 25, 2014, 01:55:07 pm
In other news, i <3 my AT mines, so much fun biking up to some tank and blowing it up in one mine :D

FYI, you don't need the tank to drive over the mine, just placing it next to one and then shooting it is enough :)

Also, finished grinding my BA, took the cheaper +dmg bullets, upkeep is not that bad for those, all in all costs me like 2k upkeep per proper battle (dunno how much of that goes into restocking my AT mines).
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Idzo on June 26, 2014, 01:53:04 pm
get m1919mg.

ez life
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on June 26, 2014, 06:04:38 pm
LMGs are so broken, i await with eager anticipation them getting nerfed at some point.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on June 26, 2014, 06:08:59 pm
Well I finally managed to nade someone and got the explosives ribbon and with that got the bazooka unlocked. Does that thing require constant upkeep or something? Just purely out of curiosity why are so few using it considering the fact that everybody always gets tankspammed?
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: DaveUKR on June 28, 2014, 12:45:35 am
Well I finally managed to nade someone and got the explosives ribbon and with that got the bazooka unlocked. Does that thing require constant upkeep or something? Just purely out of curiosity why are so few using it considering the fact that everybody always gets tankspammed?

It has no upkeep, have no idea why people ignore it, I use it myself all the time.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on July 02, 2014, 09:32:29 pm
Got myself a bazooka soldier as well. Now to get my SMG soldier upgraded to MP40... ugh, if only i hadn't bought it on my main, so many credits wasted :(

Also, bought my first assault team - Light Armor. Wonder what good will it do :)
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on July 02, 2014, 09:41:45 pm
Bought a bazooka aswell. Pretty solid weapon. Works about aswell as stickies imo and costs nothing. I had battles where I threw all 15 stickes away. And refilling all 15 costs 5,6k. Made a second soldier too. Gonna make a pilot and just bomb german armor to shit.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Idzo on July 03, 2014, 12:39:00 pm
Got myself a bazooka soldier as well. Now to get my SMG soldier upgraded to MP40... ugh, if only i hadn't bought it on my main, so many credits wasted :(

Also, bought my first assault team - Light Armor. Wonder what good will it do :)

your first 5-6 AT's has to be infantry.
then upgrade them to mech or motorized

when they earn you lot of money go for tanks and planes or recons or soon paratroopers seems like.

Here is ts ip: 91.250.118.151

DaveUKR and me are spending a lot of time there. Its open ts i will help you lvl up and earn loads of money by playing along with veterans
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Idzo on July 03, 2014, 12:50:20 pm
Update:

Just started game, paratroopers are in. hooah!
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Sniger on July 07, 2014, 05:53:02 pm
almost have enough for my 2nd assault team :D
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on July 11, 2014, 12:34:59 pm
Just made a personal record on my main soldier - 75/24, using a fully modded BA. Wasn't a full length battle nor was i camping either :)

Did cost me like 2k in upkeep :(

Fully modded BA is so much fun, tho, it's like playing UT Instagib mode, except your enemies don't kill you in one :D
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: DaveUKR on July 11, 2014, 02:12:46 pm
Just made a personal record on my main soldier - 75/24, using a fully modded BA. Wasn't a full length battle nor was i camping either :)

Did cost me like 2k in upkeep :(

Fully modded BA is so much fun, tho, it's like playing UT Instagib mode, except your enemies don't kill you in one :D

2k only? I guess it's -2k total meaning that you also lost all your credits that you would receive for the battle itself.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on July 11, 2014, 02:59:00 pm
Yeah, i meant that. Total maintenance was like 8k or so :lol:
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: serr on July 15, 2014, 02:27:58 pm
Anyone still playing this?
Found the game several days ago, would like to play in group.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: SeQuel on July 15, 2014, 07:37:42 pm
Everytime I try playing this game I usually play 1-2 matches and uninstall. I'm not sure why exactly but I just think it's the clunky animations and how some of the maps are poorly designed. I keep landing on that 1 capture the base map where it has A-B-C and B is on a hill while A and C are at the bottom and EVERY TIME YOU DIE and want to get back anywhere you gotta run for 2-3 minutes which gets really annoying.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: DaveUKR on July 15, 2014, 08:09:41 pm
Everytime I try playing this game I usually play 1-2 matches and uninstall. I'm not sure why exactly but I just think it's the clunky animations and how some of the maps are poorly designed. I keep landing on that 1 capture the base map where it has A-B-C and B is on a hill while A and C are at the bottom and EVERY TIME YOU DIE and want to get back anywhere you gotta run for 2-3 minutes which gets really annoying.

This is skirmish. Play Assault or Defend then. Skirmish annoys me aswell.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: SeQuel on July 15, 2014, 08:29:40 pm
I was unaware there were other game modes, I just hit fight and it threw me into that same map.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: serr on July 15, 2014, 08:47:18 pm
Yes, you can play only skirmishes until you reach third rank. Also skirmishes can be quite fun when you have a car.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on July 15, 2014, 09:43:05 pm
You don't have to run, every spawn point in every map has at least one bike spawning near it.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on July 22, 2014, 03:23:47 pm
Went US this war, made a new soldier and went tanker. It's surprising just how many of the pz1c and pz2 tankers that i fight against don't understand the meaning of AP ammo :lol:
Just this last battle, the enemy had 3-4 tankers, all driving pz1c. None of them used AP ammo :lol:

Quite fun, actually, and not too expensive either.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Tibe on July 22, 2014, 05:22:44 pm
Skirmishes are also a good way to leech for cash cause they end quite fast compared to average fights and the reward is roughly the same.  They are just boring cause the maps are same.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Sniger on July 22, 2014, 05:44:28 pm
Went US this war, made a new soldier and went tanker. It's surprising just how many of the pz1c and pz2 tankers that i fight against don't understand the meaning of AP ammo :lol:
Just this last battle, the enemy had 3-4 tankers, all driving pz1c. None of them used AP ammo :lol:

Quite fun, actually, and not too expensive either.

i forgot which one, but one of the light tanks isnt AT or very little AT
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on July 22, 2014, 06:47:29 pm
The starting light tanks (m2a2 for US and pz1c for Germans) only have machineguns and no cannon. Still, even those can use AP rounds to fight each other and other light tanks (at least from the sides).

I guess that my experience in World of Tanks is paying off here :D
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Sniger on July 22, 2014, 10:42:50 pm
pretty sure i couldnt kill other tanks when i was in the beginning of my tanker career, i believe you need to unlock AP ammunition by grinding the "tank" ribbon before you can get to use the AP ammo. It unlocks pretty fast though... AFAIR that is :p

Yeah it feels alot like WoT when playing tank in H&G for some strange reason, but its good
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: LordBerenger on July 28, 2014, 08:55:00 pm
Seriously though. Bicycles.....lol. I mean sure it's fun but damn.

RO2 is the king of current gen WW2 games that's not weirdly unrealistic. Only shame is the lack of planes.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on July 28, 2014, 10:03:04 pm
Would just like to mention my last game with the M2A2 light tank - 23 pz1c kills, 1 pz38t kill, 3 scout car kills + plenty of infantry kills, was a 35 minute assault win on town map, with a final score of 45/7 and 550 points :)

Tanks are fun.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: DaveUKR on July 28, 2014, 10:04:35 pm
one thing i learnt playing tanks: higher position you get on the map - higher position you get in the scoreboards.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Havoco on July 29, 2014, 12:55:41 am
Ewww tanks
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: [ptx] on January 31, 2015, 02:27:33 pm
Bump! Spaatz #2 update is noice, improves hit-detection = improves game overall. Is good now.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Nightmare798 on February 08, 2015, 03:19:02 am
Bleh, typical grindfest that takes years to be bearable, has some cool things, but I would be kind to the devs to call this mediocre.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Artyem on February 08, 2015, 05:47:41 pm
Definitely a grindfest, but it's not a bad game to play with friends every once in awhile.  The planes are extremely simplistic yet highly enjoyable, and the armored combat can be fun, I guess.

Infantry combat is still just god awful and unbalanced, even after the hit detection fix.  I'll probably play again once they release the soviets though, which should be soon.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Nightmare798 on February 08, 2015, 06:57:10 pm
Definitely a grindfest, but it's not a bad game to play with friends every once in awhile.  The planes are extremely simplistic yet highly enjoyable, and the armored combat can be fun, I guess.

Infantry combat is still just god awful and unbalanced, even after the hit detection fix.  I'll probably play again once they release the soviets though, which should be soon.

On the other hand, to be fair, It still has better hit detection than battlefied 3...
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: SeQuel on February 08, 2015, 08:34:54 pm
On the other hand, to be fair, It still has better hit detection than battlefied 3...

Ha, Battlefield 2 was good times. Sniping in that game was interesting, if someone was sprinting in a direction you had to shoot behind them because the hitbox was lag behind the character which made sniping pretty tricky. Not sure how they messed up Battlefield 3 after Bad Company 2 which was a really good game.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Nightmare798 on February 10, 2015, 03:59:39 pm
Ha, Battlefield 2 was good times. Sniping in that game was interesting, if someone was sprinting in a direction you had to shoot behind them because the hitbox was lag behind the character which made sniping pretty tricky. Not sure how they messed up Battlefield 3 after Bad Company 2 which was a really good game.

Pretty much the same as in battlefield 2. I am not really sure what is their problem, but they just cant seem to get it right. But there are lots of other stupid things in battlefield 3, from instanely stupid pistol zoom and movement sway on pistols (which make any engagements past 20 meters impossible) to the gun physics applying (meaning bullet drop and accompanying damage drop) applying after about 10-40 meters, even thought most of the guns have bullet firing in the velocity of at least several hundreds of meters per second. Also, assault rifles have zero recoil and are more accurate on full auto than 9mm semi-auto pistols in close-medium range engagements. Not to even mention machine guns, which are practically full auto sniper rifles with 100 round clips, meaning that anyone who is not running with M16A3 with heavy barrel and foregrip attachements is running around with LMG (usually Pecheneg) with 3.4x scope.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on February 11, 2015, 03:55:08 am
Play BF4 or hardline.

Bf4 is awful, so much lag due to terrible hectoring means you either kill the guy who killed you or he hits you around corners.

Hardline is driving around in a car for the entire round annnnnd the guns are awful and useless, accuracy is more reminiscent of cs
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Bryggan on May 03, 2016, 10:34:43 pm
Well this needs a bump.  I am loving this game, though it still needs a few fixes, but RETO promises they are working on it- ie tanks running in terror from infantry on bicycles, High Explosive shells popping pilots out of their cockpits without doing any damage to the plane, every infantry being a sniper...  but there is hope, as it still is in beta.

I really like this game because it's not too arcadey, and, more importantly, I usually top the scoreboard.  I recorded this gameplay in my beautiful, beautiful Panther tank (which I love).  Sepia for that WWII feel, and I edited out all the time I'm wandering the map looking for enemies.

Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Zergmar on May 03, 2016, 11:49:11 pm
The grind in this game is scary, getting to the panther must've taken you eternity.
Title: Re: Heroes and Generals
Post by: Bryggan on May 04, 2016, 03:47:39 am
I confess I bought my tanker and my pilot with cash :oops:  But I grinded ground up my recon guy and main infantry (he's about rank 11), plus I got another infantry at about rank 6 who I'm gonna use as an SMGer for close combat.  I also bought a paratrooper with ingame credits, which was a mistake because he's kind of useless without any badges or ribbons or half ass weapons.

I really don't mind the grind for new infantry; you just gotta accept somebody's gotta be the cannon fodder.  I use my noobs to rush points.  My KD might be 6:24 or so, but I'm usually near the top of the score board, which means big XP and big money.  My recon gets 15:2 kills, but without capping I don't get as much XP or money.  Still, sniping is sick fun.