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Title: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Joseph Porta on May 07, 2014, 11:04:53 am
Little archive with mods that will help you with immersion!

before installing a mod do check the requirements for it!

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Requiem(Roleplaying mod, makes the game more difficult! And much more!) - http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19281/

Credo(medieval armour overhaul, doesn't fit in the TES lore) - http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49133/?

Morrowloot - http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/44212/
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Patoson:Morrowloot is immersive in my opinion, because it stops NPCs from wearing the best armours when you are high level and it also limits the amount of good armours you will find. You will only find dwemer armour in Dwemer ruins, only orcs will wear Orcish armour, and there will be only one set of Daedric armour in the game, which you will have to find.

Frostfall: hypothermia (adds factors such as cold, wetness, etc to the game which affect you characters wellbeing) - http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/11163/?

Realistic Needs & Diseases (your character gets hungry, thirsty. Rotten food will make you sick, etc.) - http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/26228/?


Some environment mods
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Skyrim Flora Overhaul (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/141/?) and Realistic Aspen Trees (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/51069/?).

Don't forget to run Optimizer Textures (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12801/?) (with this modified INI (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/36124/?)) after you've installed all texture mods!  :)



So, i'm a big nerd in skyrim when it comes to RP, so I made a little list of questions for you!


These things at first might look like you would limit yourself as goes for gameplay, but its quite the opposite. this adds an amazing depth to the game, and makes you enjoy the little things so much more! (Main story line is shit anyways)

More questions you'd like to add? Just post them and i'll add them.  8-)
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: IR_Kuoin on May 07, 2014, 11:08:22 am
Skyrim killed my immersion in TES games ...
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Joseph Porta on May 07, 2014, 11:10:34 am
Skyrim killed my immersion in TES games ...

Pls just enjoy the game, its what your state of mind is that ruins it for you!  :P

Not that I dont understand what you are saying, but imo some of you take gaming far too srious!  :evil:

Just enjoy the panorama, the blizzards in your headset and the mountain ridges around you. :)
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Christo on May 07, 2014, 11:14:09 am
I didn't even get to high hrothgar in my own games.

Go figure.  :?
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Joseph Porta on May 07, 2014, 11:16:04 am
I didn't even get to high hrothgar in my own games.

Go figure.  :?
I didnt even talk to gerdur in riverwood ^^ but thats not what its about! Jst mod this shit with survival mods and youll see its a challenge to just get to windhelm safely!
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: IR_Kuoin on May 07, 2014, 12:09:42 pm
Pls just enjoy the game, its what your state of mind is that ruins it for you!  :P

Not that I dont understand what you are saying, but imo some of you take gaming far too srious!  :evil:

Just enjoy the panorama, the blizzards in your headset and the mountain ridges around you. :)

I did do some RP but it didn't last long, guess my Morrowind / Oblivion age of RP'ing have dried out :(
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Sniger on May 07, 2014, 12:11:30 pm
skyrim RP

sry but  :lol:

i cant RP AI
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Joseph Porta on May 07, 2014, 12:19:34 pm
sry but  :lol:

i cant RP AI

Well RP might be the wrong word you are right but i think you know perfectly well what I mean :)
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Kafein on May 07, 2014, 01:16:05 pm
I play Requiem. RP is kind of enforced.
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Switchtense on May 07, 2014, 01:29:03 pm
I don't only walk when entering a tavern, I try to just walk along the roads at all times :D
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: SixThumbs on May 07, 2014, 02:01:27 pm
Although playing a Khajit in Skyrim I enjoyed playing a mad, naked Nord Berserker in Morrowind who hopped around and beat people over the head with a greatsword (damn those witches).
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Fredom on May 07, 2014, 02:08:52 pm
Who hides bodies? Real men show guards what they've done!  :lol:
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Lannistark on May 07, 2014, 02:10:02 pm
I admit I've submitted myself numerous times to NÂș 6  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: SixThumbs on May 07, 2014, 02:13:48 pm
Actually, last time I played Skyrim I was at the first Alduin fight and I said "nope" and ran down the mountain. When I got to the town the battle music was still playing and the NPCs just gave me that dead, fish-eye stare and no one said anything; it was pretty creepy.
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Nehvar on May 07, 2014, 05:23:36 pm
I just finished my first (and last) playthrough yesterday.  I ran about 150 mods, most of them geared towards immersion like Frostfall and RND.  They couldn't save Skyrim though -- it was still a turd. 

The story was unimaginative and bland and full of A or B decisions.  That is, when you were even permitted to decide for yourself.  Definitely not something you'd expect from a company like Bethesda and a AAA title like TESV.  It's even worse if you learned the TES timeline from the previous games because the dragon war this game is based on doesn't fit in the timeline at all; not in Skyrim anyway.  Very immersion breaking right there if you're a person that can't just choose to ignore things.  The DLC's were equally bad when it came to story.  Serana? Why is a devout follower of Molag Bal, Lord of Domination, King of Rape etc presented as a "wouldn't hurt a fly" type of character?  Miraak the first dragonborn? Wasn't Alessia the first dragonborn?  It feels like they just phoned it in on the DLCs to be honest.

The mechanics were also a low point in the series.  What happened to improving upon the mechanics that made TES great in the first place?  I hate using this term because it gets thrown around too much but there is just no other way to describe what happened here -- dumbed down.  Sure, some things were streamlined but most of them were just kicked to the curb so that the audience wouldn't have to engage their brains at all.  Games like that may have a high initial fun factor but they leave you unsatisfied at the end.  Lame.

Bugs were also a major detractor in this game and it's just staggering how so many bugs can still be present after two years. Even with the unofficial community patches which address literally hundreds of issues, the bugs and glitches are still common.  It's mind-boggling that gamers today just let this slide.  Why don't more review sites chew Bethesda out for leaving their game unfinished like this? (Don't answer that, I already know the sad truth.  I just needed to ask it.)

Sorry if I derailed the thread a little.  I practically played through Skyrim twice since my first character (unmodded) became un-savable for whatever fucking reason 90-95% of the way through the game.  So I just needed to vent a little; spending so much time with this game has left me full of bile. 

(By the way, if you're the type of semi-OCD person that feels compelled to play through a game that you payed good money for and you haven't yet played Skyrim -- don't.  Seriously, don't.  Or wait for it to hit $5 so you won't feel the need to complete it should it turn out terrible.)

So to answer the OP's question: Not very.  Fuck this fucking game.
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Leesin on May 07, 2014, 06:50:15 pm
Extremely immersed with nude mods when I am fapping to Argonian tits. I like to roleplay, I stalk women who live alone, at night I break into their homes, murder them, strip them naked and do unholy things to their corpse.
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on May 07, 2014, 07:13:51 pm
Extremely immersed with nude mods when I am fapping to Argonian tits. I like to roleplay, I stalk women who live alone, at night I break into their homes, murder them, strip them naked and do unholy things to their corpse.

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Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Joseph Porta on May 08, 2014, 12:44:48 am
I just finished my first (and last) playthrough yesterday.  I ran about 150 mods, most of them geared towards immersion like Frostfall and RND.  They couldn't save Skyrim though -- it was still a turd. 

The story was unimaginative and bland and full of A or B decisions.  That is, when you were even permitted to decide for yourself.  Definitely not something you'd expect from a company like Bethesda and a AAA title like TESV.  It's even worse if you learned the TES timeline from the previous games because the dragon war this game is based on doesn't fit in the timeline at all; not in Skyrim anyway.  Very immersion breaking right there if you're a person that can't just choose to ignore things.  The DLC's were equally bad when it came to story.  Serana? Why is a devout follower of Molag Bal, Lord of Domination, King of Rape etc presented as a "wouldn't hurt a fly" type of character?  Miraak the first dragonborn? Wasn't Alessia the first dragonborn?  It feels like they just phoned it in on the DLCs to be honest.

The mechanics were also a low point in the series.  What happened to improving upon the mechanics that made TES great in the first place?  I hate using this term because it gets thrown around too much but there is just no other way to describe what happened here -- dumbed down.  Sure, some things were streamlined but most of them were just kicked to the curb so that the audience wouldn't have to engage their brains at all.  Games like that may have a high initial fun factor but they leave you unsatisfied at the end.  Lame.

Bugs were also a major detractor in this game and it's just staggering how so many bugs can still be present after two years. Even with the unofficial community patches which address literally hundreds of issues, the bugs and glitches are still common.  It's mind-boggling that gamers today just let this slide.  Why don't more review sites chew Bethesda out for leaving their game unfinished like this? (Don't answer that, I already know the sad truth.  I just needed to ask it.)

Sorry if I derailed the thread a little.  I practically played through Skyrim twice since my first character (unmodded) became un-savable for whatever fucking reason 90-95% of the way through the game.  So I just needed to vent a little; spending so much time with this game has left me full of bile. 

(By the way, if you're the type of semi-OCD person that feels compelled to play through a game that you payed good money for and you haven't yet played Skyrim -- don't.  Seriously, don't.  Or wait for it to hit $5 so you won't feel the need to complete it should it turn out terrible.)

So to answer the OP's question: Not very.  Fuck this fucking game.

I do know what you mean.. The problem I had with the first time i played through(which was at a mates on ps3) the gamethe main story line was... How can I put it.. Idk, boring? Lets say that it was so un interesting that I did not even proceed to read all the dialogies, not that. I needed too, cause the "awesome" map markers made that completely obsolete.

 I personally had no idea what I was really doing and wy I was doing it, it was more like... Some kind of WoW instance in whch you had to kill an X amount of enemys to get to the "end boss". (WoW has more lore and dialogue in their quest logs though, which is a shamefur dispray) very stale indeed, and I do not play this game for the story. 

For me the strong athmosphere of the environment is what makes me like playing this game, i guess it has become somewhaat of a DayZ-mode for me. I just like travelling along the roads, and go about doing regular things like hunting, fishing(real fishing mod) and gathering herbs.

In my current save I havent even talken to Gerdur in Riverwood.. (First quest fter you escape from alduin) even shouts to me feel empty and (dragon)soulles! I guess i just mke my own tale.. Albeit not dragonborn I shall be a renowned fisher!  8-)
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Joseph Porta on May 08, 2014, 12:46:59 am
I play Requiem. RP is kind of enforced.

Hmm, is it compatible with SKSE,skyUI, frostfall, RND?
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Kafein on May 08, 2014, 04:34:17 pm
Hmm, is it compatible with SKSE,skyUI, frostfall, RND?

I have yet to  hear about anything not compatible with SKSE. Other than that, yes, yes, I don't know what RND is.
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Joseph Porta on May 08, 2014, 04:55:16 pm
I have yet to  hear about anything not compatible with SKSE. Other than that, yes, yes, I don't know what RND is.
awesome ill look into it, RND is Realistic Needs & Diseases :)
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Tibe on May 08, 2014, 05:00:42 pm
Dunno I kinda liked it. About the bugs thou, I do belive people keep constantly forgetting that Skyrim is a relatively big game and its almost impossible to make a game this sized and not have it bug out every once in a while. I personally think it ran rather well considering its scale. For instance I couldnt play Fallout 3 for shit when it came out. The game CTD every 10 minutes and totally dicked me in almost every way always. Even when I replayed it with the GOTY edition it sometimes dicked me. Never had it this bad with Skyrim.

I do however agree that you had little to no choice in anything in Skyrim. Every option u had had very little influence to anything. It was pretty bad from that part yes. Unlike Fallout. But Fallout concentrates on your character either being bad or good. It keeps score of your fuckups. TES doesnt.
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Kafein on May 08, 2014, 05:10:28 pm
But Fallout concentrates on your character either being bad or good. It keeps score of your fuckups. TES doesnt.

That's exactly the point. TES games used to not be that dumb.
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
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Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Christo on May 10, 2014, 12:01:15 am
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The thought that if he doesn't provoke the imperials he might've survived the whole thing. The beheading? For sure, skipping that prayer or whatever it just felt wrong.

This always bugged me when I started out :D

Every. Time.
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Xant on May 10, 2014, 06:54:51 am
  • Do you avoid 3> vs 1 fights, because it would not feel realistic to win such a fight?
What?
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Switchtense on May 10, 2014, 11:23:50 am
What?

You alone fighting 3+ guys. It migth feel unrealistic to win such fights, so he asked if you avoid those battles and rather go for 1v1s or 1v2s only.
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Joseph Porta on May 10, 2014, 11:24:23 am
What?

Always when I have to face three or more opponents I try to sneak kill one or two to "even the odds" its just something I like to do. Call it an unneccesary safety measure  8-)

You alone fighting 3+ guys. It migth feel unrealistic to win such fights, so he asked if you avoid those battles and rather go for 1v1s or 1v2s only.

Yes, exactly <3
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Osiris on May 10, 2014, 11:27:32 am
its not unrealistic for a super warrior with skillz to crush a couple of guards. That said i have only 50 or so hours in skyrim. I still prefer the sexy oblivion maps :D (and skyrim seems to lack fun quests like fighting trolls inside a painting)
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Joseph Porta on May 10, 2014, 11:29:16 am
its not unrealistic for a super warrior with skillz to crush a couple of guards. That said i have only 50 or so hours in skyrim. I still prefer the sexy oblivion maps :D (and skyrim seems to lack fun quests like fighting trolls inside a painting)

True true but I "RP"(still dont know a better word for it) a hunter gatherer in regular cloth armor.  8-)

And I dont fight guards! I am a law abiding citizen of Skyrim  :oops:
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Snufalufagus on May 10, 2014, 12:58:17 pm
this is an interesting mod:

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19281/?

its more immersive because you have to approach every enemy very differently.
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Joseph Porta on May 11, 2014, 11:59:38 am
this is an interesting mod:

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19281/?

its more immersive because you have to approach every enemy very differently.

Ah yeah, Kafein mentioned it aswell, I still have to try it out but the description sounds pretty nice.  :)
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Patoson on May 11, 2014, 02:49:22 pm
Morrowloot (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/44212/?) is immersive in my opinion, because it stops NPCs from wearing the best armours when you are high level and it also limits the amount of good armours you will find. You will only find dwemer armour in Dwemer ruins, only orcs will wear Orcish armour, and there will be only one set of Daedric armour in the game, which you will have to find.

Credo (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49133/?) isn't immersive with TES lore, but to me it's immersive with the Middle Ages.
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Joseph Porta on May 11, 2014, 03:07:39 pm
Morrowloot (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/44212/?) is immersive in my opinion, because it stops NPCs from wearing the best armours when you are high level and it also limits the amount of good armours you will find. You will only find dwemer armour in Dwemer ruins, only orcs will wear Orcish armour, and there will be only one set of Daedric armour in the game, which you will have to find.
Wow, nice! I am personally not a fan of the dwemer/dralic armor sets, they are just over the top imo but them being location bound is nice!

Credo (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49133/?) isn't immersive with TES lore, but to me it's immersive with the Middle Ages.
Well Skyrim lore isnt a big deal anyways so this is awesome, this one ill surely install . (If only for the pot helmet with aventain!  :twisted:)

Also added an archive with mods that you guys put forward!

Who here uses a "more trees" mod? i do! The forests in skyrim are so empty..
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Patoson on May 11, 2014, 03:45:07 pm
I use Skyrim Flora Overhaul (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/141/?) and Realistic Aspen Trees (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/51069/?).

Don't forget to run Optimizer Textures (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12801/?) (with this modified INI (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/36124/?)) after you've installed all texture mods!  :)
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Joseph Porta on May 11, 2014, 03:53:02 pm
I use Skyrim Flora Overhaul (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/141/?) and Realistic Aspen Trees (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/51069/?).
The mod creator says that the fps drop ranges from -1 up to -20, do you notice this?


Don't forget to run Optimizer Textures (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12801/?) (with this modified INI (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/36124/?)) after you've installed all texture mods!  :)
Does it reduce fps loss? If so I must have it
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Patoson on May 11, 2014, 04:42:51 pm
What optimizer textures program does is compress the textures so they are much smaller and in theory it should help with performance/crashes.

On top of that, if you want to improve stability of the game and visual quality, use Phinix Natural ENB (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/24235/?), which is the one I use - you can use any other ENB that includes the latest ENB version, which comes with the features of ENBoost (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/38649/?). And also install Safety Load (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/46465/?) and SSME (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50305/?) (or the latest SKSE alpha which includes the features of SSME).

And yes, SFO can hurt framerate depending on your rig, although I barely notice any drops in my game.

I explained the process of modding Skyrim as well as I could in this post (http://forum.melee.org/and-all-the-other-things-floating-around-out-there/xzibit-pimped-my-skyrim-!/msg943700/#msg943700), although the "mods I use" section is a bit outdated.
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Joseph Porta on May 11, 2014, 04:51:55 pm
What optimizer textures program does is compress the textures so they are much smaller and in theory it should help with performance/crashes.

On top of that, if you want to improve stability of the game and visual quality, use Phinix Natural ENB (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/24235/?), which is the one I use - you can use any other ENB that includes the latest ENB version, which comes with the features of ENBoost (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/38649/?). And also install Safety Load (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/46465/?) and SSME (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50305/?) (or the latest SKSE alpha which includes the features of SSME).

And yes, SFO can hurt framerate depending on your rig, although I barely notice any drops in my game.

I explained the process of modding Skyrim as well as I could in this post (http://forum.melee.org/and-all-the-other-things-floating-around-out-there/xzibit-pimped-my-skyrim-!/msg943700/#msg943700), although the "mods I use" section is a bit outdated.

So far i have yet to crash but since my rig is pretty bad (can you run it says I cant run skyrim on minimum settings yet i can) I am scared to start using demanding mods, but ussually i add them one by one, then start up the game and check if it doesnt crash or give any errors.

I wil check it out asa i get on my oc later today, thanks for the tips  :)
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: Patoson on May 11, 2014, 04:58:25 pm
Well, then if you want to install a lot of mods that add stuff, especially NPCs everywhere, you should install those three: ENBoost, Safety Load and SSME. Read the description of each of them to configure them properly.

Those three mods should help with stability a lot. I haven't had a single crash in ages with those mods.
Title: Re: Skyrim: How immersed are you?
Post by: phnxhdsn on May 12, 2014, 07:13:02 pm
From the words of Totalbiscuit: Skyrim is as vast as an ocean but has the depth of a puddle.

I love playing it now and then and i'm super excited to play it, but then i realize that  I just can't get immersed..