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Title: Graphic card
Post by: Zhyang on April 18, 2014, 06:29:02 pm
hi

I recently have problems with my graphic card..looks like its broken but:

I installed a new driver and  the card isnt broken or something in the pc

what can cause those problems?
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Prpavi on April 18, 2014, 07:00:13 pm
Broken how?
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Zhyang on April 18, 2014, 07:13:37 pm
its not burned or something ( dont know how to say that)
I also cleaned it today
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Nightmare798 on April 18, 2014, 07:26:14 pm
Quote from: Zhyang on April 18, 2014, 07:13:37 pm
its not burned or something ( dont know how to say that)
I also cleaned it today

Well since you posted on this forum (considering you are using the pc which uses the said graphic card) it means that it at least partially works.

Also in what manner is it broken? It doesnt display right? Or are you getting some kind of error when you want to run a certain application?
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Zhyang on April 18, 2014, 07:41:10 pm
Well..its just ingame ( Fifa, Crpg, Warband Native) and well ..sometimes it flickers green or red  or the desktop gets green or red colours . Also if its really strong...there are big pieces over the desktop..

sorry dont know how to explain :/ the thing is its just in game
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Nightmare798 on April 18, 2014, 07:50:10 pm
Quote from: Zhyang on April 18, 2014, 07:41:10 pm
Well..its just ingame ( Fifa, Crpg, Warband Native) and well ..sometimes it flickers green or red  or the desktop gets green or red colours . Also if its really strong...there are big pieces over the desktop..

sorry dont know how to explain :/ the thing is its just in game

Whoa there dude, that is some serious shit going on. The stuff you experience reminds me when you get too greedy with overclocking, and then all kinds of strange stuff shows up. Could it be that your power supply unit is too strong for your setup?

Then there is the obvious, your card is messed up and needs to be replaced. If it is under warranty, waste no time and send it back for either replacal, or repairs.

Or it could be your computer screen, but since the problems started after you replaced the card, it is unlikely.

The last idea I have that there is some kind of problem with your motherboard.
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Zhyang on April 18, 2014, 08:01:49 pm
for some reason I had to laugh when I read the serious shit going on lol

  :D well..I didnt replaced it..its still the old

and im playing warband now with direct x7 and I dont have any problems..lets see how long this will last
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Panos_ on April 18, 2014, 08:15:02 pm
explain your problem in German, and then someone with better english can explain it  :wink:
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Zhyang on April 18, 2014, 08:26:04 pm
I might upload screeens if this happens again
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Smoothrich on April 18, 2014, 08:58:52 pm
Quote from: Zhyang on April 18, 2014, 08:26:04 pm
I might upload screeens if this happens again

You need to run a Driver Sweeper utility to completely remove any video drivers on your computer, and restart. Then install the new drivers, and restart again.

Double check that you properly cleaned fans with compressed air. Tidy up your case so there aren't any loose cables or shorts. Have proper airflow.

Download overclocking software (like msi Afterburner) and monitor your card's performance and voltage. Try reducing its voltage or memory clock from stock/turbo speeds.

Odds are, your videocard is on its way out, from your description. But it could just be power or temperature issues. Hell it could even be a loose cable.
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Radament on April 18, 2014, 09:00:30 pm
check your card temperature and be sure it isn't overheating when playing and idle.
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html (http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html)

Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Miwiw on April 18, 2014, 09:16:15 pm
You're not even saying what card you're using. :D

Anyway, had that problem too 3 months ago when my new pc arrived. The graphic card first worked without a problem, then the same stuff like you described happened regularly, especially in dx9 games like warband. First I was about to blame win8 but topics all over the internet said that this kind of graphic card causes similar problems a lot. Installed win7 and they stayed so obviously a card problem. Put it in my old pc, same errors. So I sent it back to Alternate and recieved a new one some weeks later.
You need to try everything, check google for your graphic card name and add some description, you'll prolly find some solution (and in German as well).

Maybe you got Artefakte? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGLGvk4kJXw
(that's what I had, just heavier + pc going down sometimes or screen going white/blue. Now no problems anymore, sticked with win7 tho!)
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Zhyang on April 18, 2014, 10:17:33 pm
I havent changed anything with my pcs since 5 years
I have a shitty graphic card : ATI Radeon HD 4800

after playing 2 hours without any problems....the issue came again

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Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Miwiw on April 18, 2014, 10:19:56 pm
Still playable though but it seems to be the same what I had and I guess it has to be the graphic card. When I had that problem, which is actually the same but it can be quite heavy that you don't see anything of the game anymore or like you have it, I couldn't see much on my screen anymore.

Google mal mit dem namen deiner grafikkarte und füg "artefakte" hinzu. Du dast das nämlich ähnlich wie der Typ oben im Video.
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Utrakil on April 18, 2014, 10:20:53 pm
Seems like you can see the Matrix. Try to move in bullet time.
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Zhyang on April 18, 2014, 10:24:43 pm
It appeared only for 1 round on eu1..then it disappeared.
 

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Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 18, 2014, 10:26:31 pm
When you are seeing artifacts like that on your screen, this might mean that it is time you finally replaced that gpu. Also as mentioned above, make sure it is not overheating that screws you over.

Get speedfan here (http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php) and check for yourself.
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Prpavi on April 19, 2014, 11:56:00 am
Artifacts caused by faulty drivers or overheating.

Do what Smoothrich said.
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Zhyang on April 19, 2014, 10:17:22 pm
well..now its not working anymore
if i want to start the pc normally there are some artifacts again somewhere and the pc crashs at some point
but still i will try what smoothrich said
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Zhyang on April 19, 2014, 11:15:39 pm
ok I tried it now
after the restart it worked but not long and still with small signs of a broken graphic card
then I had a look into the pc
everything was clean and normal no cables around

then I started the pc again and it was like before
artifacts while booting causing a bluescreen..
I guess my graphic card is really broken?
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Prpavi on April 19, 2014, 11:31:03 pm
did you check the temp?
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Zhyang on April 20, 2014, 12:54:14 am
tbh i dont know how a graphic card looks like i never really needed it  :lol: but there was nothing hot..only warm..I will try it again soon
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Prpavi on April 20, 2014, 12:55:42 am
http://www.gputemp.com/

dl this and post the results pls
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 20, 2014, 12:56:53 am
Just install speedfan. I linked it in my previous post. It is a very small application that reads your hardware temperatures. For an older-gen card like yours, going above 70 degrees is problematic enough. See if that is the case.
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Zhyang on April 20, 2014, 01:05:06 am
?
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 20, 2014, 01:12:12 am
Quote from: Zhyang on April 20, 2014, 01:05:06 am
i think the card is just broken..i mean 7 years is a long time

Yeah, most probably that.
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Senni__Ti on April 20, 2014, 01:44:51 am
Sounds like the vram died, it's old enough.

Temp wise, I generally use CPUID, GPU-Z or MSI afterburner, all very good.
Under 90C is ok, under 80C is good and under 70C is ideal.
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: Miwiw on April 20, 2014, 02:04:47 am
And around 30°? :P
The broken graphic card I had that had shown artifacts did never show more than 35°, usually even below 30°. Fans were running properly, not too fast and even when in game temp never really went up.
Card was clearly broken though, but I still found that really weird.
Title: Re: Graphic card
Post by: cmp on April 20, 2014, 02:48:32 am
Quote from: Miwiw on April 20, 2014, 02:04:47 am
And around 30°? :P
The broken graphic card I had that had shown artifacts did never show more than 35°, usually even below 30°. Fans were running properly, not too fast and even when in game temp never really went up.

30-35° under load = broken sensor