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cRPG => Ban/Unban Requests => Global => Topic started by: Dutchydave on April 08, 2014, 06:09:47 pm
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Why am I banned? Yes im attacking my own village but that is because I couldn't do anything with the village control so decided to attack it to see if I could do that, It worked? Im guessing this is because when I first attacked the village I was part of The Kalmar Union and in the 24hour battle prep time I was removed from the faction and after claiming the village it bugged out due to this. I don't really see how I have done anything wrong.
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This is true - same thing happened to me: left a clan whilst prepping for village defense... I had no access to roster or anything. "luckily" it was going to be a non-event anyway, due to attackers out numbering us. I believe Artyem also had some problem where he attacked himself: http://forum.melee.org/strategus-issues/fief-double-attack/
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Pretty disgusting how tydeus banned you just so he could have an easier time with his attack. :(
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Yes it would be completely lame if Tydeus was behind this. That would be a "Bad Loser" move to the highest degree and a complete conflict of interests.
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I had nothing to do with the banning, outside of providing links to battles and screenshots of strategus. I was asked for my opinions on what I thought should be done, multiple times. Each time I specifically stated it was up to everyone else.
19:17 <Tydeus (https://www.irccloud.com/#%21/blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org:6667/Tydeus)> up to everyone else
19:18 <Canary (https://www.irccloud.com/#%21/blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org:6667/Canary)> because of conflict of interest on your part I presume?
19:18 <Tydeus (https://www.irccloud.com/#%21/blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org:6667/Tydeus)> absolutely
I don't even have the ability to issue a global ban to begin with.
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So what exactly was he banned for? Cause artyem attacked a fief that he owned earlier in strat.
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=503
Yes it says a different name for defense now because it defaults to the current owner, but the fact remains that if he was banned for this glitch it is rather fucking fishy. Now if he was banned for something else then never mind me.
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I attacked the fief once outside of the APA, and then when I joined the APA again it forced a second attack for some reason. I'm not entirely sure how this went down, and I don't have anything to do with the outcome, but the roles were reversed in my situation.
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I attacked the fief once outside of the APA, and then when I joined the APA again it forced a second attack for some reason. I'm not entirely sure how this went down, and I don't have anything to do with the outcome, but the roles were reversed in my situation.
It sounds very similar though. Were you not in the "No Faction" faction for the first attack, and then in the APA for the second? Dutchy was in Kalmar for the first, and in "No Faction" for the second. Like if there was a function to prevent people bailing from their faction with a fief in tow without having to fight for it this might be how it would work.
In any event we've no real information as to why dutchy was banned, and all we see from it is tydeus directly benefiting. Maybe he didn't have anything to do with it, but a couple of easily faked chat messages are frankly not enough for me, especially with such a similar situation being completely looked over earlier in strat. I don't necessarily believe anything untoward happened here, but it seems awfully fucking fishy.
edit: well after talking with artyem about his situation it seems as if it is not a similar glitch at all. Artyem never actually owned the fief before the attack, he joined the faction after the attack initiated and somehow became owner (correct me artyem if that is wrong). Essentially ignore me completely thank you very much. :\
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I still believe there is some bug associated with being involved in a village attack/defense and leaving a faction during this scenario. Having experienced it myself.
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Its a bug and I am banned for it, what a load of shit. I attacked it because even though I owned it I couldn't do anything in the fief as if I didn't own it. So I decided to see if I could attack the fief I owned that I didn't really own, it worked and I get banned for that? I don't even get a reason or a length of ban. Im guessing the bann will be for at least 1 week so Tydeus will have an easyer time respeccing Bulugur.
I wasn't attacking the village for any reason apart from hoping I could actually use the fief as owner but honestly didn't even expect it to work.
Obviously the bug happens if you attack a village while in a clan and then someone removes you from the clan in the 24hour battle prep time, if you win you don't really own the fief and have no access to the roster for that battle. I had no access to any feature of owning the fief
For the record Tydeus you talk about integrity of this situation while you attack the village obviously with integrity? Your not exploiting my bullshit bann are you?
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For the record Tydeus you talk about integrity of this situation while you attack the village obviously with integrity? Your not exploiting my bullshit bann are you?
Wouldn't surprise me the least.
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Personally I think all fief transfers done through attack should be bannable, or otherwise disallowed. Part of strat is choosing the right person to own a fief and having them do things properly.
Just so we're clear, I was the initial complainant about this. If you remember, when smooth and blackzilla did this last strat it was heibous, and they should have been punished. I didn't go through the forum posts route, I went straight to irc and talking to the admins directly. You see, I believe in the integrity of Strategus. That is, until all the gear gets duped, then you better get your exp while the exp is good.
However, onto the matter of Dutchy himself. Let us not forget his multiple instances of foul play last strat. He item bombed Ichamur last Strat when Matey owned it, prompting a thread to complain about that. Unfortunately, nothing again was done by our fabulous Dev/admin team, because this is NA and we should all go fuck ourselves. For those of you wondering, he still managed to fail misrebly in taking Ichamur. Now, that was not the only instance for Dutchy. After FCC took Reyvadin (I think, perhaps Curaw), the FCC went after every KUTT member fleeing the city as if they were children who had just opened a piñata. KUTT, who had actually never bothered showing up for battles they felt they would lose, all of a sudden started showing up just to retreat. Normally, that would be no big deal, but there was a big at the time, causing retreating defenders to actually win their battles. Sure, one time could be called a mistake, but I was recently reminded that this happened three or four times, multiple times after the big was reported on the forums. Someone had even fingered Dutchy as directly responsible for every instance. How he was able to figure this out, I'm not sure but said informant is very reliable and does not get things wrong. I'm sure the rosters are available somewhere in the great Strategus 4 archives if the matter had to be further investigated.
So, in closing, I would have to say: Dutchy, sorry, but you have no place in Strategus. Your history speaks for you and you continually manage to damage the integrity of Strategus and I have no reason to believe you will ever stopped unless your ban remains.
As an aside, Artyem's context is entirely different. He has just taken an AI fief, and there was no one in the area in direct contest with Artyem's fief. Dutchy, the owner of Bulugar was attacked right on top of the village less than half a day before the battle was to take place and the fief logically attacked next since the owner was getting teleported. That is an awfully convenient excuse for someone who has a history of abusing bugs. Bear in mind that it was you who declared eternal war for Bulugar, you are only making yourself look worse.
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So if someone is unable to manage the fief that they are the lord of, what should they do? Wait until someone else attacks it, and then attack it back? If what he is saying is true, he was unable to transfer the fief to someone else, unable to manage the fief. His only option was to attack his own fief.
Seems a little bit sketchy that he was banned for this. Unless he's completely lying his ass off...
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So if someone is unable to manage the fief that they are the lord of, what should they do? Wait until someone else attacks it, and then attack it back? If what he is saying is true, he was unable to transfer the fief to someone else, unable to manage the fief. His only option was to attack his own fief.
Seems a little bit sketchy that he was banned for this. Unless he's completely lying his ass off...
If the owner is stupid enough to get teleported, he must deal with the consequences. This is a strategy game , there are no unfair mechanics, just stupid strategists.
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Oh I wasn't sure what happened, I was trying to find out more information (since I'm curious as to what was going on, the battle archive left me more confused than it helped clarify anything). Can someone post a timeline
Edit, nevermind Tedious gave me a run down in irc...seems like it was a blatant illegal fief transfer (owner was in the process of being teleported and someone else attacked village to gain control)
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So, in closing, I would have to say: Dutchy, sorry, but you have no place in Strategus.
Coming from a guy who bitched about everyone using duped gear, then used duped gear to fund his own battles.
Also the FCC had an illegal fief transfer atleast once a week.
That and dirty armies to item bug people.
This is literally the pot calling the kettle black.
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Personally I think all fief transfers done through attack should be bannable, or otherwise disallowed. Part of strat is choosing the right person to own a fief and having them do things properly.
Just so we're clear, I was the initial complainant about this. If you remember, when smooth and blackzilla did this last strat it was heibous, and they should have been punished. I didn't go through the forum posts route, I went straight to irc and talking to the admins directly. You see, I believe in the integrity of Strategus. That is, until all the gear gets duped, then you better get your exp while the exp is good.
However, onto the matter of Dutchy himself. Let us not forget his multiple instances of foul play last strat. He item bombed Ichamur last Strat when Matey owned it, prompting a thread to complain about that. Unfortunately, nothing again was done by our fabulous Dev/admin team, because this is NA and we should all go fuck ourselves. For those of you wondering, he still managed to fail misrebly in taking Ichamur. Now, that was not the only instance for Dutchy. After FCC took Reyvadin (I think, perhaps Curaw), the FCC went after every KUTT member fleeing the city as if they were children who had just opened a piñata. KUTT, who had actually never bothered showing up for battles they felt they would lose, all of a sudden started showing up just to retreat. Normally, that would be no big deal, but there was a big at the time, causing retreating defenders to actually win their battles. Sure, one time could be called a mistake, but I was recently reminded that this happened three or four times, multiple times after the big was reported on the forums. Someone had even fingered Dutchy as directly responsible for every instance. How he was able to figure this out, I'm not sure but said informant is very reliable and does not get things wrong. I'm sure the rosters are available somewhere in the great Strategus 4 archives if the matter had to be further investigated.
So, in closing, I would have to say: Dutchy, sorry, but you have no place in Strategus. Your history speaks for you and you continually manage to damage the integrity of Strategus and I have no reason to believe you will ever stopped unless your ban remains.
As an aside, Artyem's context is entirely different. He has just taken an AI fief, and there was no one in the area in direct contest with Artyem's fief. Dutchy, the owner of Bulugar was attacked right on top of the village less than half a day before the battle was to take place and the fief logically attacked next since the owner was getting teleported. That is an awfully convenient excuse for someone who has a history of abusing bugs. Bear in mind that it was you who declared eternal war for Bulugar, you are only making yourself look worse.
Wow Murder if your going to also talk about integrity you really should get your facts straight, lets not forget how you threatened me with exploited gear last strat if LL attacked your castle or the fact that when we attacked your village as we didn't realize who your clan was and I came to offer to undo this you demanded large amount of troops from me and when I refused you banned all LL from your xp battles(not that we played in any before that). So using exploited gear for pathetic xp battles has loads of integrity doesn't it? Not participating in the actual strat and having meaningless xp battles aslo has plenty of integrity?
Now lets get this straight I didn't item bomb anything ever but you seem to finger me out for this. KUTT never won any battles from fleeing all we got was some gear and it was only small amounts and at the time and people thought it was a bug but in actual fact it was a mechanic of the game in the end but I still got a bann for that and I admit that was most likely due to the way I gloated in the forums and excepted that bann even though I still say bullshit.
"If the owner is stupid enough to get teleported, he must deal with the consequences. This is a strategy game , there are no unfair mechanics, just stupid strategists."
Whats that got to do with anything? I had my army and LL had 2 other large armys around Bulugur anyway it was actually a mistake by Tydeus to attack the token and not the village and probally realized this and had a cry to you about his mistake.
Im not surprised your behind this as I have had the pleasure of speaking with you in TS several times and personally I have found you to be a complete dickhead and if you acted like that in front of me in real life you would be getting an ambulance.
So in hind sight I should of made an issue thread about me not being able to do anything in the village im lord of.
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Oh I wasn't sure what happened, I was trying to find out more information (since I'm curious as to what was going on, the battle archive left me more confused than it helped clarify anything). Can someone post a timeline
Edit, nevermind Tedious gave me a run down in irc...seems like it was a blatant illegal fief transfer (owner was in the process of being teleported and someone else attacked village to gain control)
I was in The Kalmar Union when I attacked the village for the record.
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Coming from a guy who bitched about everyone using duped gear, then used duped gear to fund his own battles.
Also the FCC had an illegal fief transfer atleast once a week.
That and dirty armies to item bug people.
This is literally the pot calling the kettle black.
Well, the bug completely ruined the integrity of Strategus, far worse than any other bug, unfortunately, not everyone was honest about it, like Sandersson was. I used to gear and gold solely to fight Jake, in one location. I had no intentions of going after anyone, just to stay in one place and make fights happen since no one else would. Also was fully transparent about it. As for the threats to Dutchy, I had already stated my intentions, when I got that village and you were foolish for attacking it in the first place. Basically I made my demands as absurd as possible to make you go away and not talk to me any further.
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if you acted like that in front of me in real life you would be getting an ambulance.
heh
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heh
Does he even lift?
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Raven_Zan (who was in my faction) owned Nova Mijayet, he was in EU and inactive so I left the faction and attacked the fief. The fief transfer was successful and I was the owner of the village.
But, as soon as the first battle ended, another one started. I was attacking my own fief, very strange. Before I even realized that it had attacked it twice, I joined back into my original faction and lost control over the fief's roster. When the second battle ended, I had normal control over the fief and it was like nothing happened at all.
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Raven_Zan (who was in my faction) owned Nova Mijayet, he was in EU and inactive so I left the faction and attacked the fief. The fief transfer was successful and I was the owner of the village.
But, as soon as the first battle ended, another one started. I was attacking my own fief, very strange. Before I even realized that it had attacked it twice, I joined back into my original faction and lost control over the fief's roster. When the second battle ended, I had normal control over the fief and it was like nothing happened at all.
Yeah, I'm willing to let the 2nd attack off, but again, this doesn't free up the overwhelming number of issues of the first attack.
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Raven_Zan (who was in my faction) owned Nova Mijayet, he was in EU and inactive so I left the faction and attacked the fief. The fief transfer was successful and I was the owner of the village.
But, as soon as the first battle ended, another one started. I was attacking my own fief, very strange. Before I even realized that it had attacked it twice, I joined back into my original faction and lost control over the fief's roster. When the second battle ended, I had normal control over the fief and it was like nothing happened at all.
There are still big differences in the situations though. No one was poised to attack within 24 hours, as you had no diplomatic enemies at the time and no one came forward to make a complaint. Also, it was the battle of Halfcast attacking DH_saeyoontau's village that was the illegal transfer. The second battle where Halfcast attacked himself was ridiculous as well, but not what he was banned for.
Teleporting a fief owner is a valid strategem, which leaves the fief unmanageable, and what they did was surely an effort to circumvent this mechanic. What Dutchy did would have allowed him to take out all the gold in the village, as well as force tydeus to deal with yet another awful night time setting, as well as waste over a day of upkeep for Tydeus, based on the assumption he would not attack the village immediately after Dutchy's battle was to end, as it would be around 5 am. Really, an illegal fief transfer causes a multitude of problems, and that is why devs look down upon it.
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There are still big differences in the situations though. No one was poised to attack within 24 hours, as you had no diplomatic enemies at the time and no one came forward to make a complaint. Also, it was the battle of Halfcast attacking DH_saeyoontau's village that was the illegal transfer. The second battle where Halfcast attacked himself was ridiculous as well, but not what he was banned for.
Teleporting a fief owner is a valid strategem, which leaves the fief unmanageable, and what they did was surely an effort to circumvent this mechanic. What Dutchy did would have allowed him to take out all the gold in the village, as well as force tydeus to deal with yet another awful night time setting, as well as waste over a day of upkeep for Tydeus, based on the assumption he would not attack the village immediately after Dutchy's battle was to end, as it would be around 5 am. Really, an illegal fief transfer causes a multitude of problems, and that is why devs look down upon it.
How the fuck was it illegal? I was in "The Kakmar Union" faction as I have been for the last month.
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How the fuck was it illegal? I was in "The Kakmar Union" faction as I have been for the last month.
Leaving your 4 person faction to attack from another faction is just another poor excuse at trying to circumvent the rule. If you had truly attacked that fief, there would have been an actual battle, with you know, rosters. By not even killing the population, you only further incriminate yourself. Also the fief transfer message on BOTH sides only makes it worse.
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How the fuck was it illegal? I was in "The Kakmar Union" faction as I have been for the last month.
Cool. Nevermind the fact that everyone knows you're LL. It's not even disputable.
Do not come crying "it's not prohibited in the rules" if you invent a new creative way to be an idiot and get punished.
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Really, an illegal fief transfer causes a multitude of problems, and that is why devs look down upon it.
As a joe-bloggs strat player - I see feif transfers happening all the time within and between factions. At no point in time have I read or heard anywhere from anyone that they are looked down upon or illegal. Frankly I thought it was just part of strat - a workaround for a mechanic that doesn't exist.
Edit: fixed quote.
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Well, the bug completely ruined the integrity of Strategus, far worse than any other bug, unfortunately, not everyone was honest about it, like Sandersson was. I used to gear and gold solely to fight Jake, in one location. I had no intentions of going after anyone, just to stay in one place and make fights happen since no one else would. Also was fully transparent about it. As for the threats to Dutchy, I had already stated my intentions, when I got that village and you were foolish for attacking it in the first place. Basically I made my demands as absurd as possible to make you go away and not talk to me any further.
Then you exploited this bug that ruined the integrity of strat and then weeks later exploited it further when you threatened to use your duped gear against LL if we attacked you. Your a complete hypocrite trying to use the integrity card.
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Cool. Nevermind the fact that everyone knows you're LL. It's not even disputable.
Do not come crying "it's not prohibited in the rules" if you invent a new creative way to be an idiot and get punished.
What a load of shit I have been legit in Kalmar through Quincey for the last month helping them with their war, I had no intention of leaving Kalmar but due to the Quincey breakdown I guess I was removed.
Tydeus lets just face it you had a dummy spit because you didn't get your way at Bulugur and you made plenty of mistakes trying to do so.
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As a joe-bloggs strat player - I see feif transfers happening all the time within and between factions. At no point in time have I read or heard anywhere from anyone that they are looked down upon or illegal. Frankly I thought it was just part of strat - a workaround for a mechanic that doesn't exist.
Edit: fixed quote.
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The main difference, is that in this case, I was clearly trying to take the fief. In this situation, the first attack on the village bought them a significant amount of time, enough to bring in another army, the ability to take gold out of the fief(or would have, if not for the 2nd attack), and the ability to maintain the defensive position (maintaining the fief).
Tydeus lets just face it you had a dummy spit because you didn't get your way at Bulugur and you made plenty of mistakes trying to do so.
If that were the cast, you wouldn't have been banned. I guess I need to repeat this, I did not ban you. That means it was decided by someone higher up, that this does constitute an illegal fief transfer, and therefore warrants action.
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Leaving your 4 person faction to attack from another faction is just another poor excuse at trying to circumvent the rule. If you had truly attacked that fief, there would have been an actual battle, with you know, rosters. By not even killing the population, you only further incriminate yourself. Also the fief transfer message on BOTH sides only makes it worse.
As I said I was legit in Kalmar for the last month and fief transfers between allied clans is not illegal. As for the battle for some reason half the pop died and the 75 troops in the village also died. Its either a bug or an admin had their hand in it not pointing any fingers in Tydeus direction.
Anyway murdertool keep dribbling on about integrity you fucking hypocrite
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The main difference, is that in this case, I was clearly trying to take the fief. In this situation, the first attack on the village bought them a significant amount of time, enough to bring in another army, the ability to take gold out of the fief(or would have, if not for the 2nd attack), and the ability to maintain the defensive position (maintaining the fief).
If that were the cast, you wouldn't have been banned. I guess I need to repeat this, I did not ban you. That means it was decided by someone higher up, that this does constitute an illegal fief transfer, and therefore warrants action.
So you are trying to say that it is illegal for an allied clan to attack a fief? Yeah someone higher up who has you and murder crying in their ear while not giving them all the facts.
As far as im concerned Tydeus your just a bad loser, your like a little kids who's mum didn't by him an icecream
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Its either a bug or an admin had their hand in it not pointing any fingers in Tydeus direction.
Don't even start that shit. It has been stated before. The ONLY people who have the capabilities to even ATTEMPT to do this, would be cmp, harald, and chadz. None of them have any reason what-so-ever, to give a damn about this shit.
Again, you do not launch your browser from warband*, therefore it's impossible that I could have done anything remotely of the sort. You're grasping at straws. Just take your ban with some humility, and move on. Stop trying to bring the world down around you, simply because you can't have your way. There's no reason for you to even be bringing up anything relating to murdertron in this thread, yet you continue to do so.
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Don't even start that shit. It has been stated before. The ONLY people who have the capabilities to even ATTEMPT to do this, would be cmp, harald, and chadz. None of them have any reason what-so-ever, to give a damn about this shit.
Again, you do not launch your browser from strategus, therefore it's impossible that I could have done anything remotely of the sort. You're grasping at straws. Just take your ban with some humility, and move on. Stop trying to bring the world down around you, simply because you can't have your way. There's no reason for you to even be bringing up anything relating to murdertron in this thread, yet you continue to do so.
LoL Murder is posting in this thread and falsely stating previous events, of coarse I have the right to bring him up are you retarded. Take a bullshit bann with humility? I was in Kalmar for the last month and that's a fact but your trying to twist it to say im in LL, yes allied to LL atm. As I said your just a sooky little kid who didn't get his icecream
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I don't think you understand. The issue is that you attacked the fief without the intent of going to war, and this attack ended up causing a delay(among several other things) in a player's ability to justly take the fief for his own. Under the circumstances, you cannot transfer a fief like that. That is what defines an illegal fief transfer. Maybe, MAYBE if you were actually neutral there might be a way to weasel your way out, but that's not the case, so there's no point thinking about it.
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LoL Murder is posting in this thread and falsely stating previous events, of coarse I have the right to bring him up are you retarded. Take a bullshit bann with humility? I was in Kalmar for the last month and that's a fact but your trying to twist it to say im in LL, yes allied to LL atm. As I said your just a sooky little kid who didn't get his icecream
I'll fite u irl meet me behind 7-11 at 3pm
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I don't think you understand. The issue is that you attacked the fief without the intent of going to war, and this attack ended up causing a delay(among several other things) in a player's ability to justly take the fief for his own. Under the circumstances, you cannot transfer a fief like that. That is what defines an illegal fief transfer. Maybe, MAYBE if you were actually neutral there might be a way to weasel your way out, but that's not the case, so there's no point thinking about it.
I totally understand goose. I was part of Kalmar Union for the last month. That's the whole point. Your a fucking little sook and had a cry to the devs and its a complete bs ban as the fact that I was in Kalmar makes it legit.
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I totally understand goose. I was part of Kalmar Union for the last month. That's the whole point. Your a fucking little sook and had a cry to the devs and its a complete bs ban as the fact that I was in Kalmar makes it legit.
You're.
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Fix strat and stop banning/kicking people that beat you at strat.
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Can you quit all of this bickering and actually talk like adults? I know you're each capable of it. Take the emotion out of it and just deal with what has happened and move on.
The weather is getting nice out, so go enjoy it.
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I'll fite u irl meet me behind 7-11 at 3pm
Damn murder, isnt this the second time you had to do IRL Battle?
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Can you quit all of this bickering and actually talk like adults? I know you're each capable of it. Take the emotion out of it and just deal with what has happened and move on.
The weather is getting nice out, so go enjoy it.
Actually, it's heading into winter down South where men chunder.
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Actually, it's heading into winter down South where men chunder.
Winter has nice weather as well. Being from Minnesota, I know this.
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Strat is such a mess, any decision over banning people's cRPG accounts over breaking Strat rules always creates dramabomb shitshows that make people look biased or autistic one way or another.
Hell even when CMP has banned people before for stuff like fief transfers he ended up having to walk back on it because an EU admin was giving a biased version of events since it was his army in the area of a "pre-planned fief transfer" and everyone acted outraged. So this isn't just for trash-tier operators doing these things, it just about always looks bad. Especially since Strat is a buggy wild west wasteland.
I think ultimately Strategus is pretty good at self-moderating itself, because people who start using exploits/glitches is like being first to use WMD in a war, and everyone else ends up feeling justified using exploits/glitches against them later on.
Anyways, sucks for people who still try to manage clans and doing real crap in Strat, either you end up having to use exploits to get around interface issues, or use them to get an advantage, and it becomes hard to tell who is guilty of which, and admins end up being just as vested in their Strat crap as regular players, except admins are privvy to the admin IRC and board where they can Secretly Decide who to punish, for how long, without any real oversight or precedent.
Good Luck to great sage though, he's a consistent and active Strat player and the game will suffer if he's removed from it permanently.
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Can someone explain to me how all the gear I had on my hero ended up in the village for Anal_Hair to claim?
It took integrity to score all that gear Tydeus.
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Anyway I must say I feel pretty hard done by with this bullshit, Tydeus and Murder are carrying on about this like I hacked into everyones pc and sold all there gear. The simple fact is the fief transfer was From LL to Kalmar and that is exactly what the record shows. So do the rules state that it is illegal for an allied clan to come and take an allies fief if they are under pressure?
Its quiet amusing that Tydeus scored all my gear out of this, that's a healthy pay out and why was all my gear in the fief anyway as it was on my hero when I was banned, did someone access my account and put all the gear in the undefendable village due to the fact I couldn't even hire anyone for the defense?
As far as im concerned I havn't broken any rules and to be banned from all servers is a complete joke, not to mention an admin of any type hasn't even stated a length of bann or even stated why they decided I should be banned. Its all trigger happy guilty before proven innocent calls driven by an admin who will and has totally profited from my bann.
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Murder also had somebody on our team in start destroy all our c- sites :(. I wouldn't put anything past anybody in strat
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Anyway I must say I feel pretty hard done by with this bullshit, Tydeus and Murder are carrying on about this like I hacked into everyones pc and sold all there gear. The simple fact is the fief transfer was From LL to Kalmar and that is exactly what the record shows. So do the rules state that it is illegal for an allied clan to come and take an allies fief if they are under pressure?
Its quiet amusing that Tydeus scored all my gear out of this, that's a healthy pay out and why was all my gear in the fief anyway as it was on my hero when I was banned, did someone access my account and put all the gear in the undefendable village due to the fact I couldn't even hire anyone for the defense?
As far as im concerned I havn't broken any rules and to be banned from all servers is a complete joke, not to mention an admin of any type hasn't even stated a length of bann or even stated why they decided I should be banned. Its all trigger happy guilty before proven innocent calls driven by an admin who will and has totally profited from my bann.
The fact is your transfer was done with enemy combatants in the area with clear intentions of attacking the village within 24 hours. That alone will get you banned. Are you not getting that? Everything else just adds to the sketchiness of it, and makes it even more wrong.
Attacking the village again was what screwed you on your gear, but you did that to yourself.
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Murder also had somebody on our team in start destroy all our c- sites :(. I wouldn't put anything past anybody in strat
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Fuck you dred ur next. Meet me behind the 7-11 at 3:01
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http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=913
You lost this battle, your second attack on the fief. That means the gear from your army was trasferred to your new, and undeserved fief. Nothing I did, or didn't do, would have influenced this.
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So murder exploiting a bug is also banable right?
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http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=913
You lost this battle, your second attack on the fief. That means the gear from your army was trasferred to your new, and undeserved fief. Nothing I did, or didn't do, would have influenced this.
Well Tydeus a lot more then nothing you did influenced this, you posted plenty in the admin sub forums mate so stop making up bullshit.
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Anyway no feed back from any admins who actually banned me. Just murder the fucktard and his little bum chum anal hair basically trolling this thread.