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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Built on March 02, 2014, 03:00:27 pm

Title: The War Cleaver
Post by: Built on March 02, 2014, 03:00:27 pm
The War Cleaver
Many of you know of this weapon

I am not here to whine about how it is op or broken, I am here to issue a challenge.
I want any one player or dev to get something of the same size and weight placement and swing it around as if you were in CRpg and then tell me if its still balanced

provide Video if you wish
Title: Re: The War Cleaver
Post by: Miwiw on March 02, 2014, 03:04:29 pm
Please open a thread for every other weapon.

Please get a Long Bow irl, use it and show us how to shoot over 200m or more. Best is, you also add a video to give a proof.
Repeat with every other weapon.

Forget realism, realism doesnt matter, realism sucks. This is a game, nothing has to be any close to realism.
If you can swing a 2h sword around, if you can use a bow, if you can ride a horse, then why goddamn shouldn't it be possible to swing a war cleaver as well?
Title: Re: The War Cleaver
Post by: Built on March 02, 2014, 03:16:26 pm
Quote from: Miwiw on March 02, 2014, 03:04:29 pm
swing a war cleaver as well?

As a semi professional butcher, I'll have you know swinging a cleaver is nothing like swinging a sword.
Title: Re: The War Cleaver
Post by: Miwiw on March 02, 2014, 03:21:13 pm
And that's something you should quickly forget, put it out of your mind. Forget it.

Especially since the War Cleaver is already an unbalanced weapon, it is of course not like a sword which is balanced. So there's game-wise already a difference.
Title: Re: The War Cleaver
Post by: Umbra on March 02, 2014, 03:23:41 pm
Buy a sword, go to a history museum and slash the Milanese plate on display a few times. Record a video of your findings and subsequent arest.

This is of great importance
Title: Re: The War Cleaver
Post by: Built on March 02, 2014, 03:29:07 pm
Quote from: Miwiw on March 02, 2014, 03:21:13 pm
And that's something you should quickly forget, put it out of your mind. Forget it.


Sir I get paid to butcher things, please dont suggest I stop getting paid.
Also I sense some agitation, is there perhaps something you would like to discuss sir?
Title: Re: The War Cleaver
Post by: Miwiw on March 02, 2014, 03:31:25 pm
I'm not a knight, so stop using "sir".

Anyway, you may be a butcher but why do you think you got any idea of warfare though?
Unless you're a troll, what you probably are.
Title: Re: The War Cleaver
Post by: Built on March 02, 2014, 03:33:04 pm
Quote from: Umbra on March 02, 2014, 03:23:41 pm
Buy a sword, go to a history museum and slash the Milanese plate on display a few times. Record a video of your findings and subsequent arest.

This is of great importance

Sir this is a red herring, I am not here to suggest that the weapon is improperly balanced, just that I would like confirmation that it is just me who has trouble keeping track of it moving around in someone's arms like an epileptic gerbil.
Title: Re: The War Cleaver
Post by: Built on March 02, 2014, 03:34:41 pm
Quote from: Miwiw on March 02, 2014, 03:31:25 pm
I'm not a knight, so stop using "sir".

Anyway, you may be a butcher but why do you think you got any idea of warfare though?
Unless you're a troll, what you probably are.

I use sir for it is the polite pronoun to use, unless you are not a man in which case miss. I take offense to your insinuation that I am a troll and this thread might just be because I have not had my morning tea.
Title: Re: The War Cleaver
Post by: Tydeus on March 02, 2014, 03:48:22 pm
Quote from: Built on March 02, 2014, 03:00:27 pm
I want any one player or dev to get something of the same size and weight placement and swing it around as if you were in CRpg and then tell me if its still balanced
War Cleaver
weapon length: 120
weight: 3.5
difficulty: 15
speed rating: 93
weapon length: 120
swing damage: 45 cut
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
Unbalanced

What? Did I miss something?
Title: Re: The War Cleaver
Post by: Built on March 02, 2014, 03:59:03 pm
Quote from: Tydeus on March 02, 2014, 03:48:22 pm
War Cleaver
weapon length: 120
weight: 3.5
difficulty: 15
speed rating: 93
weapon length: 120
swing damage: 45 cut
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
Unbalanced

What? Did I miss something?

Gameplay balanced, not balanced balanced
Title: Re: The War Cleaver
Post by: Tydeus on March 02, 2014, 04:04:12 pm
I don't think it's in dire need of anything. One more cut damage, possibly, nothing more.
Title: Re: The War Cleaver
Post by: Macropus on March 02, 2014, 04:21:58 pm
Quote from: Built on March 02, 2014, 03:33:04 pm
Sir this is a red herring, I am not here to suggest that the weapon is improperly balanced, just that I would like confirmation that it is just me who has trouble keeping track of it moving around in someone's arms like an epileptic gerbil.
Here you are, I confirm that War Cleaver is perfectly balanced game-wise except probably a bit underpowered. 
And if you have troubles blocking unbalanced weapons, you would most likely have even more problems while blocking faster/balanced weapons.
Title: Re: The War Cleaver
Post by: Grumbs on March 02, 2014, 04:47:44 pm
War Cleaver is a nice weapon for people without looms because of the high base damage. Unbalanced is quite a big flaw though when you don't also get knockdown or shield breaker.

Also look at Dadao, very similar but not unbalanced
Title: Re: The War Cleaver
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 02, 2014, 05:30:57 pm
2014
Still trying to implement realism into the game.

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Title: Re: The War Cleaver
Post by: Built on March 02, 2014, 06:52:08 pm
I would like to beg forgiveness and pardon for this thread, twas in the wee irritable early part of my day

Morale of the story:
No forums until after morning tea
Title: Re: The War Cleaver
Post by: Christo on March 02, 2014, 07:22:04 pm
Quote from: Umbra on March 02, 2014, 03:23:41 pm
Buy a sword, go to a history museum and slash the Milanese plate on display a few times. Record a video of your findings and subsequent arest.

This is of great importance

 :lol:
Title: Re: The War Cleaver
Post by: //saxon on March 04, 2014, 02:43:57 am
Leave the big stupid looking sheet of metal thats welded onto a handle alone! it is kind and loving!
Title: Re: The War Cleaver
Post by: Akynos on March 04, 2014, 04:32:41 pm
Quote from: Built on March 02, 2014, 06:52:08 pm
I would like to beg forgiveness and pardon for this thread, twas in the wee irritable early part of my day

Morale of the story:
No forums until after morning tea

Not sure if you're a huge idiot or a puzzled gentleman...
Title: Re: The War Cleaver
Post by: Rico on March 04, 2014, 05:50:47 pm
Quote from: Miwiw on March 02, 2014, 03:31:25 pm
I'm not a knight, so stop using "sir".

Anyway, you may be a butcher but why do you think you got any idea of warfare though?
Unless you're a troll, what you probably are.

Pfff, if you don't want to be called SIR, use this as your avatar

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