Video doesn't surprise me, everyone west of Berlin knows that slavs aren't really human beings.few examples of extremal humanity of "everyone west of Berlin" =3
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The problem of Russia like many others post soviet independent countries is that most of them are Orthodox countries, this means that the Orthodox church has a really huge power in the social part of these countries. This religion is very omophobic and not tolerant to other sexual preferences and that is why many Russians hate gays, bis, etc... because the church educates the people there in a wrong and intolerant way.
Also, the other problem is that Russia's government is a dictatorship and a mafia that controlls the country. The russians should come out and protest like the Ukranians are doing right now fighting for a democratic country, they should be against those corrupts that are in their government because if not, they will have dictators by decades.
Also, if sex between same-sex partners is unnatural, why does it occur in nature between animal species other than humans?in cats nature, it works as some kind of insult to the victim...
ye what about them with people with opinions like yours I ask myself also what about the kids, what kind future do they have.not sure what do you mean. they have a future like mine or your but in case of gays - they have not future because they cant even be born.
The problem of Russia like many others post soviet independent countries is that most of them are Orthodox countries, this means that the Orthodox church has a really huge power in the social part of these countries. This religion is very omophobic and not tolerant to other sexual preferences and that is why many Russians hate gays, bis, etc... because the church educates the people there in a wrong and intolerant way.rules from Orthodox Christianity are fine. people following not all of them same like with laws... and thats why its becoming useless. it doesnt really educates people in intolerant way, maybe only about gays and ... lol wizards (I am not kidding). for most of sins you will be punished after you life ... so its allows people to do whatever they want without punishment ... because YOLO. religion such as Christianity is too old for modern world ... because of democracy which allows people to do whatever they want.
Also, the other problem is that Russia's government is a dictatorship and a mafia that controlls the country. The russians should come out and protest like the Ukranians are doing right now fighting for a democratic country, they should be against those corrupts that are in their government because if not, they will have dictators by decades.the problem in leaders, not in conception of dictature. Gaddafi is example of fine leader... and country was fine while he was a leader.
The thing is that I can tell shout my love at a woman on the streets of Russia, but if I shouted my love at a man I'd be beaten up.
Sure, sexual orientation is a private thing. But if we all keep it private, the human race will die out and no one will enjoy sharing your life with someone.
Think of the children argument is just repulsive to me. Why is it so hard to tell your kid that you can have sex for fun? My parents sure didn't shy away from that when I asked. How is it moral degradation for people to be allowed to enjoy sex? And if enjoying sex is not morally wrong, then why is it so terrible to tell children about it?
Actually, nevermind, I can't be bothered to argue this. Hits a bit too close at home in my case. And no, I'm not gay. I'm sorry if that revelation of my sexual preference offends you.
The thing is that I can tell shout my love at a woman on the streets of Russia, but if I shouted my love at a man I'd be beaten up.it makes me funny.
everyone is wrong, what the hell do these homos expect if they make gay prides etc, i dont give a fuck who they are having sex with but if they come to streets and advertise that they are gay for unknown reason they can expect to be treated bad.So, I guess those dudes in the Ukraine are just getting what they've asked for too since they go on the streets telling everyone that they wanna vote and shit? Like advertising democracy and anti-corruption and that stuff? Guess they should expect to be treated bad by the police...
So, I guess those dudes in the Ukraine are just getting what they've asked for too since they go on the streets telling everyone that they wanna vote and shit? Like advertising democracy and anti-corruption and that stuff? Guess they should expect to be treated bad by the police...ukraine is not figting for gay rights
Well, saying "I don't care" is probably the most basic form of tolerance.
That's basically my opinion on quite a lot of things including homosexuality. I simply do not give a shit about the sexual orientation of 99.9% of the human population. Nope, don't care.
Whenever I've met and talked to homosexual people, I actually told them exactly that when they said something like "Oh, and btw... I am gay/lesbian." Most times I replied "...and why exactly did you tell me? I don't give a damn."
Funny fact: a lot of them reacted rather agitated. Which again I don't understand. Am I supposed to care about who the guy I met 20 minutes ago for the first time is fucking in his spare time? Am I supposed to be like "Uhh... you're so cool now cuz you're different and all that."?
Sometimes it's weird and I don't know why. I do not care and you're hardly going to make me care.
ukraine is not figting for gay rights
Ukranians are fighting for a free country based in a democratic system, and in a democratic system gets in all type of beliefs, sexual preferences, freedom of speech, etc...
i did some research,those people who are getting beaten up all are not some poor homosexual guys being oppressed by some nаzi russians(they show only some retards who beat actual homosexuals int his video to show how bad are these guys(i dont say that theya re doing good thing)), as it turns out some of them are nothing more but a cought pedophiles (they by any means do not deserver anything better than they get) .
TL;DR victims in such videos are not as inocent as you think they are but i do not approve violence in any way.
i did some research,those people who are getting beaten up all are not some poor homosexual guys being oppressed by some nаzi russians(they show only some retards who beat actual homosexuals int his video to show how bad are these guys(i dont say that theya re doing good thing)), as it turns out some of them are nothing more but a cought pedophiles (they by any means do not deserver anything better than they get) .
TL;DR victims in such videos are not as inocent as you think they are but i do not approve violence in any way.
I think that a valid method to fight this kind of homophobia is to counter it with anal gangrapes. If you find excuses for this kind of behaviour and approve of it, then fuck you, I hope you get raped and killed in an awful way, and that your ballsack rots and infests you with aids, while hairy boobs grows out of your chest.
Fight fire with shittons of fire, people like this can't be argued with, they can only be fought with force.
Fight fire with shittons of fire, people like this can't be argued with, they can only be fought with force.
Thats why I despsise commie fucks like you, you claim that you fight "fascism" while your action indicate the opposite.You mistake me for someone who gives a fuck about your opinion. History has proved that people like yourself will start doing fucked up shit to people of "wrong" races, sexuel preferences etc if you're left alone, and no liberal will ever save someone from talking and arguing with you.
Video doesn't surprise me, everyone west of Berlin knows that slavs aren't really human beings.
You mistake me for someone who gives a fuck about your opinion.
That wasnt my opinion you cockroach, opinions are told when you have a discussion/disagreement with someone, BUT in order to have this with someone, you need to respect him, and I for one, don`t respect cockroaches. I crush them with my Oi! boots.No opinions are opinions. You're just being a retard wich is excactly what a retard would be doing.
Good argument, man you totally persuaded me, cant understand it, just beat it to death or kill it with fire, I might come join you now.
You might as well all dress up as Gestapo and put stars on their clothes while you're at it too, for further humiliation and notification of course. You wouldnt want a gay bumbling across your path, might get some gay on your shoes and bring it home to the wife and children, rough life out there.
I'm from Moscow and I never met a gay, I don't like them and don't care about them at all.
No opinions are opinions. You're just being a retard wich is excactly what a retard would be doing.
I`m burning inside to reply appropriately, but my Ban sensors detect a high chance of me getting banned.
They are not pedophiles. That's just some incredibly retarded propaganda... They are just normal people looking for a date with another young man.Are you sure? Idiots from "Occupy Pedophilia" were against pedophiles only. They have a lot of videos on vk.com and you can see how old man sends messages or photo to young boy. They have spycams, phone records where child tells pedophile that he is 13-15 years old and if pedophile don't go away after that - Tesak comes. Some naked pedophiles were waiting in a bath and were surprised to see a group of people instead of young boy. It's a real crime, thats why some of pedophiles from this videos now in jail.
lol.. Sorry. But you just think so.
Still, the large gray mass of gays just live normal, manly lives and go fishing and hunting and listening to Metallica.. They are just normal people. And no, they are not interested in you, and they will never flirt with you. They are able to find each other.
I'm an obvious closet homo.Panos_the_BEAR
Is this the kind of example that should be set for countries that are still shrugging off the mantle of third world status?
Dark Blade hasn't had sex so he wouldn't know. I've had a lot of vagina and dicks in my time and let me tell you Dark Blade, it was awesome. One time me and my friends made a dickbutt train, kinda like the human centipede but with 8 guys all connected via dicks in butt, then we had some girls suck the turd residue off of our meat batons, fuck yeah.:lol:
Dark Blade hasn't had sex so he wouldn't know. I've had a lot of vagina and dicks in my time and let me tell you Dark Blade, it was awesome. One time me and my friends made a dickbutt train, kinda like the human centipede but with 8 guys all connected via dicks in butt, then we had some girls suck the turd residue off of our meat batons, fuck yeah.
Video doesn't surprise me, everyone west of Berlin knows that slavs aren't really human beings.
Being gay isn't natural
Dark Blade hasn't had sex so he wouldn't know. I've had a lot of vagina and dicks in my time and let me tell you Dark Blade, it was awesome. One time me and my friends made a dickbutt train, kinda like the human centipede but with 8 guys all connected via dicks in butt, then we had some girls suck the turd residue off of our meat batons, fuck yeah.
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They are not pedophiles. That's just some incredibly retarded propaganda... They are just normal people looking for a date with another young man.
you was the first and the others behind or.... :mrgreen:
Well, saying "I don't care" is probably the most basic form of tolerance.
That's basically my opinion on quite a lot of things including homosexuality. I simply do not give a shit about the sexual orientation of 99.9% of the human population. Nope, don't care.
Whenever I've met and talked to homosexual people, I actually told them exactly that when they said something like "Oh, and btw... I am gay/lesbian." Most times I replied "...and why exactly did you tell me? I don't give a damn."
Funny fact: a lot of them reacted rather agitated. Which again I don't understand. Am I supposed to care about who the guy I met 20 minutes ago for the first time is fucking in his spare time? Am I supposed to be like "Uhh... you're so cool now cuz you're different and all that."?
Sometimes it's weird and I don't know why. I do not care and you're hardly going to make me care.
The problem of Russia like many others post soviet independent countries is that most of them are Orthodox countries, this means that the Orthodox church has a really huge power in the social part of these countries. This religion is very omophobic and not tolerant to other sexual preferences and that is why many Russians hate gays, bis, etc... because the church educates the people there in a wrong and intolerant way.
Oh well, if a 50-year old guy asks me to have a date with him, he's certainly a pedophile for me, even tho I'm an adult. And that guy would simply disgust me.Yes, well, that's just not what the word means. You might as well call him a "747 Boeing" for wanting to have a date with you.
Oh well, if a 50-year old guy asks me to have a date with him, he's certainly a pedophile for me, even tho I'm an adult. And that guy would simply disgust me.
That's another case! He's obviously looking for love. :P
thats why there is nothing to wonder when people who hate gays are beating the gays who came on the march. is it right? it isnt. but is it right that alot of people are comming at the place with banners and screaming that they are f*cking the ass of another man or getting f*cked? none productive, unnatural bullshit."The only reason why gays protest is because they want to show us & our poor children that they want to fuck in the ass"
Remember what Russians also do to FEMEN members, I have to admit though I lol'd at his huge beaten face, not that it was a nice thing to do.
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Tis but a scratch :lol:
I haven't done any scientific researches about whether being gay is inborn or obtained, but I'm pretty sure it only depends on upbringing.
Lol, the only thing I probably respect Putin for is him not being fond of gays.
Fact is, being gay is not a choice, regardless of the background, and I don't think anyone does it because it's cool or would make their lives easier..Being drug-addict isn't a choice either really, yet if someone becomes one or not is dependant on his upbringing and (to a less extent) his surrounding, nothing else. Think this example is quite relevant.
There's no such thing as a gene that makes you born homosexual. Homosexuality is obviously something that comes with the years, for some reasons.We don't know what causes homosexuality, nor do we know what every single gene in every human codes for.
I don't see what the big fuss is about being gay in Russia. Your country already has many important issues to deal with. Why would people care who their neighbours sleeps with as long as they dont disturb you.
I don't see what the big fuss is about being gay in Russia. Your country already has many important issues to deal with. Why would people care who their neighbours sleeps with as long as they dont disturb you.
Because you can divert attention from those important issues, to a group of people you can blame everything onWell, it's not like everyone is running around hunting gays in Russia, actually. Most people don't give a fuck.
There's no such thing as a gene that makes you born homosexual. Homosexuality is obviously something that comes with the years, for some reasons.Oh really? Well, do go on. Tell us how you found out that there is no such gene and also how you found out that it's something that "comes over the years."
let'a recap a few typical statments being thrown around this thread and in general when this topic is discussed+100.000
1. homosexuality is not natural
2. I don't go on a parade saying I'm straight
3. you are not born gay it comes from childhood trauma and becomes merely a habbit
O.o
obv, you have never met and talked to a gay person about their sexuality so pls stop being such experts on the matter you have no knowledge about and do some research, talk to people, you might learn new things which will prevent you from writing nonsense. just a friendly advice
let'a recap a few typical statments being thrown around this thread and in general when this topic is discussed
1. homosexuality is not natural
2. I don't go on a parade saying I'm straight
3. you are not born gay it comes from childhood trauma and becomes merely a habbit
O.o
obv, you have never met and talked to a gay person about their sexuality so pls stop being such experts on the matter you have no knowledge about and do some research, talk to people, you might learn new things which will prevent you from writing nonsense. just a friendly advice
Except It Is not Natural, because it does not cause a child or growth of the race(IE an increase in population).This has been said many times before, there are animals in the wild that are homosexual, the "it's-not-natural!" argument is null.
Until Same Sex Produces offspring, it will always be an unnatural thing, otherwise the race will die off.
(And for some, they say that's best for the planet if we are dead anyway...)
This has been said many times before, there are animals in the wild that are homosexual, the "it's-not-natural!" argument is null.
Except It Is not Natural, because it does not cause a child or growth of the race(IE an increase in population).So which definition of "natural" are you using...?
Until Same Sex Produces offspring, it will always be an unnatural thing, otherwise the race will die off.
(And for some, they say that's best for the planet if we are dead anyway...)
Erm, guys, explain to me what do you mean when you say that something is unnatural? How can any existing object in the universe can be considered as not a part of the universe? How can something that happens in nature (using the 'The material world and its phenomena' definition of 'nature') be defined as unnatural?Unnatural as a word is fine and serves its purpose. It's useful and understood by everyone* if you say, for example, "salt eaten in unnatural amounts can be extremely unhealthy because the human body is not equipped to digest it properly." This gets across the idea that it is not "natural" for humans to take in the amounts of salt that we often get nowadays, as it wasn't around in those quantities in the ancestral environment. Same could be said about any other artificial sweeteners or whatever.
It seems to me that many people like to endue human's brain with some mystical power that can produce something, that is not a part of nature. Brain, like any other organ in your body is natural, so any products of brain, any thought, any idea, any concept should be seen as a natural thing, I think.
Unnatural... This word has no sence to me, I don't even know why it has it's place in our language.
Oh really? Well, do go on. Tell us how you found out that there is no such gene and also how you found out that it's something that "comes over the years."
It's funny how the media makes a big shit storm about protesting the Russian anti-gay laws, when the US allied with countries with far worse anti-gay laws like Saudi Arabia, Uganda, and India where homosexuality is punishable by death or life imprisonment. The MSM is just trying to make Russia look bad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory
Not a counter for what I stated. Sure they are, I don't care about that. My statement was it was unnatural from the standpoint of Population growth(IE, Children). And in this instance, same sex is 100% incapable of it.(Learn to Fucking Read before you post!)Being a condescending cunt is not a requirement to post here, just so you know.
"However, despite numerous studies over the last decade searching for polymorphisms associated with homosexuality, no convincing molecular genetic evidence has been found despite the fact that pedigree and twin studies clearly show that homosexuality is familial (reviewed in Ngun et al. 2011). Homosexuality has also been hypothesized to be caused by nongenetic factors such as maternal antibodies against male-specific antigens (reviewed in Bogaert and Skorska 2011)."
http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/668167
If you can't be bothered reading it these guys summarized the article: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq5nmUTx6eI
It's rather believed to be epigenetics.
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I personally tend to believe that Homosexuality is caused by Psychological factors rather than genetical. Unless there's waterproof research pointing towards genetics and canceling out psychology then I'll change my mind. And then again I'm not really updated when it comes to studies in Homosexuality. Not my biggest concern.
Anders thinks being gay is a choice and that one day everyone will decide to be gay and we'll die out from not reproducing. LOLOLOL, I really hope this retard has not reproduced yet and never gets the chance to do so.
But In both Instances, we are thankful that we DO have other means of Reproduction beyond the "Old Fashioned Way" that allows this and other such things to be viable.
"The animal kingdom [does] it with much greater sexual diversity – including homosexual, bisexual and nonreproductive sex – than the scientific community and society at large have previously been willing to accept"
"Although homosexual behavior is very common in the animal world, it seems to be very uncommon that individual animals have a long-lasting predisposition to engage in such behavior to the exclusion of heterosexual activities. Thus, a homosexual orientation, if one can speak of such thing in animals, seems to be a rarity"
Still In all instances, You guys trust Evolution yes? If so, then by the theory of Evolution, Homosexuality, is an incorrect procedure.
It does not:
Pass on Genetic Material, thereby, contributing to a smaller gene pool and less adaptive traits.
(Which, this would be the number one reason why Homosexuality is an improper procedure)
The authors of a 2008 study stated "there is considerable evidence that human sexual orientation is genetically influenced, so it is not known how homosexuality, which tends to lower reproductive success, is maintained in the population at a relatively high frequency". They hypothesized that "while genes predisposing to homosexuality reduce homosexuals' reproductive success, they may confer some advantage in heterosexuals who carry them". Their results suggested that "genes predisposing to homosexuality may confer a mating advantage in heterosexuals, which could help explain the evolution and maintenance of homosexuality in the population".[150] A 2009 study also suggested a significant increase in fecundity in the females related to the homosexual people from the maternal line (but not in those related from the paternal one).[151]
A review paper by Bailey and Zuk looking into studies of same-sex sexual behaviour in animals challenges the view that such behaviour lowers reproductive success, citing several hypotheses about how same-sex sexual behavior might be adaptive
You clearly have no idea how evolution works.
Also, what do you think about sterile ants who only function as doors for their comrades? Is being a sterile door an evolutionary advantage? By your logic, no, it isn't. How come do they still exist, then, and keep on existing generation after generation? Indeed, since they are sterile, how do they keep existing since they can't pass on their own genes?
The answer to both this and "homosexuality not being an evolutionary advantage" are simple if you know how evolution works.
No, that is still not how evolution works. It is so much more complex than just saying "small adaptations between each successive generation." And yes, you can have successive generations with homosexual tendencies, and you do. Individuals are adaptation-executers, not fitness-maximizers.
evo·lu·tion
noun \ˌe-və-ˈlü-shən, ˌē-və-\
biology : a theory that the differences between modern plants and animals are because of changes that happened by a natural process over a very long time
: the process by which changes in plants and animals happen over time
: a process of slow change and development
You were not using "evolution" wrong, and it is indeed at its base level "small adaptations each successive generation"; but there is much more to it than that. Look up "inclusive fitness" for example. You cannot judge traits such as homosexuality as unnatural just because they don't seemingly offer any advantages to an individual. Inclusive fitness may be the answer, or the answer may be what I quoted from the Wiki article: that the genes that make people homosexual are advantageous to heterosexuals when not emerging quite as strongly as in actual gay people. Or it may be a combination of both.
I haven't done any scientific researches about whether being gay is inborn or obtained, but I'm pretty sure it only depends on upbringing. Please, don't get the word "upbringing" like parents telling the child "you be no gay!" or "you be gay!", I mean the widest meaning possible for this word - upbringing. Everything that a child experiences during his lifehood determines his personality and habbits, and being gay is no more than just a fucking habbit.
Nobody here even said sexual orientation was a choise. My point is that it's determined by childhood experience (which still doesn't make it a choice), not by genes, that's all.
Then again, looks like being ignorant is a choise!I might be ignorant or simply bad at english, that's true, but in any case it would be easier for me to reply and explain myself if you stated what exactly you find ignorant in my posts.
, our concept of what we find 'attractive' and what we look for in a potential partner is 100% based on childhood experience from the moment you open your eyes.Hahaha.. no.
I might be ignorant or simply bad at english, that's true, but in any case it would be easier for me to reply and explain myself if you stated what exactly you find ignorant in my posts.
The MSM is just trying to make Russia look bad.That...that´s actually not even wrong :o Russia also tries to make America look bad, f.e. look at the "fuck the eu"-diplomat report about Victoria Nuland closely. Nobody would ever leak such a little, unimportant statement, unless there was a bigger reason behind it.
, our concept of what we find 'attractive' and what we look for in a potential partner is 100% based on childhood experience from the moment you open your eyes.That's really strange to hear. I find my preferences in women constantly changing. For example some characteristics that in the past I could saw as unattractive now I find catching.
You base your beliefs on anecdotal evidence when there's actual scientific reasearch available that anyone can read. I call it ignorance.Lol, I wonder how that would be even possible to get a scientific evidence of childhood experiences causing homosexuality. Whatever... You might be right.
There is no scientific evidence of upbringing or childhood experiences to cause homosexuality.
one of my best friends is a beautiful homosexual woman, and she put it just right: "I have liked men more then once, but loved... I can truly love only a woman.
"Die beste Freundschaft ist immernoch zwischen Männern... eine echte Männerfreundschaft!"
When I was back in the military, I remember one of my comrades proudly talking about him and his 6 buddies chasing and beating one gay guy in the nighttime. How the fuck can you even call yourself MAN when you´re proud of kicking with 6 other assholes one guy?Well, what'd you do about it?
You might not believe it (google it), but gays have a much harder life in Jamaica for example.I can believe that.
You might not believe it (google it), but gays have a much harder life in Jamaica for example.
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Does anyone have any evidence to prove that homosexuality is a natural thing that isn't just psychological?Psychology isn't natural?
What the F...
Does anyone have any evidence to prove that homosexuality is a natural thing that isn't just psychological?
Non-human homosexual animals exist.Yeah but they don't fight for their rights and don't adopt children! :mrgreen:
Does anyone have any evidence to prove that homosexuality is a natural thing that isn't just psychological?
Yeah but they don't fight for their rights and don't adopt children! :mrgreen:
Do you have proof of it being psychological and not just natural for some?
#Rekt
Again, how does psychological equal unnatural?Not everyone here has a perfect English.
Again, how does psychological equal unnatural?
Do you have proof of it being psychological and not just natural for some?
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Not entirelly subconcious. Level of conciousnes also vary from individual to individual but basically yes amplitude vary and hence people choose individually which one is being felt stronger within them(or none of them ==> asexualism).
Which also brings us to conclusion that so called "homophobic" behaviorurs are motivated by fear of own homosexual impulses(it doesnt mean that "homophobic" people are hidden homosexuals thought).
Sexual impulses are not something you can change (easily), but you do choose with whom you have sexual relations with, to some extent.
Well, maybe it is a choice then. It's just...Dezilagel is not easy, he is certain.(click to show/hide)
Well, maybe it is a choice then. It's just...Sex now?(click to show/hide)
Sex now?
HELL YES!
I really don't see how a reproduction argument makes any sense.
You mean like : we gays want to save the world from overpopulation ! :D (I know that wasnt your point Cyber, but I wanted to make that joke!)
There's an interesting book, "The Forever War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forever_War)." Following mass overpopulation, the UN essentially promotes Same Sex couples as a means to control overpopulation(after the resources wars caused by over pop).Read it recently, really enjoyed it.
It's a commentary book and not a real "Story" book, but it has lots of interesting points in it. Recommended reading for someone who likes a novel with an interesting set-up and message.