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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Kafein on January 28, 2014, 09:21:53 pm
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None.
That is all.
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So you wanted it to immediately make a large part of the community leave?
douchebag
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ranged whine less. we get nerfed and slaughtered by op cav and infantry - we keep shoot'n.
But I have to say that even I was not impressed by the slight overall ranged nerf - some real re-balancing of bows and a serious xbow and thrower nerf would have done more good.
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and whats the effect of this thread?
none :o
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ranged whine less. we get nerfed and slaughtered by op cav and infantry - we keep shoot'n.
But I have to say that even I was not impressed by the slight overall ranged nerf - some real re-balancing of bows and a serious xbow and thrower nerf would have done more good.
And archer suggesting to "re-balance" archer and give "serious nerfs" to the other ranged classes while also classing infantry and cavalry as overpowered. Not biased at all :lol:
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I was just asked today, "Hey, what's your HA build? I want to make a STF HA to ride around with."
But you guys love to be trolled by STF, so hey, troll on.
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I was just asked today, "Hey, what's your HA build? I want to make a STF HA to ride around with."
But you guys love to be trolled by STF, so hey, troll on.
Who are we to say to people that want to respec their STF to HA, that they can't ? The point is that they shouldn't want to do that.
Also I don't believe this patch was meant to reduce the number of ranged, but just in case it was, it failed.
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A nerf does not necessarily reduce the amount of people playing a class that got hit with a nerf instantly.
It does however make them less effective than before nerf.
Since crpg has a very unforgiving way to change your main character, changes will take some time.
(bs nerf to reduce missile speedbonus, it was a great mechanic that rewarded realtime tactics og jediskills in seeing the near future and punished those who lacked it)
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well just today I respecced my alt which I use to retire and sell LP's to an archer (I played 2h/pole with him) it was just too much
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Me when I saw the "ranged nerf"...
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Who are we to say to people that want to respec their STF to HA, that they can't ? The point is that they shouldn't want to do that.
Also I don't believe this patch was meant to reduce the number of ranged, but just in case it was, it failed.
Nothing will prevent them from making a STF HA. They just will only be able to play it in duel and DTV. Nothing will prevent them from making an HA and playing on Battle or Siege. They just wont be able to make an instant level 30 to play on them. I think you secretly enjoy the amount of ranged on the server.
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Nothing will prevent them from making a STF HA. They just will only be able to play it in duel and DTV. Nothing will prevent them from making an HA and playing on Battle or Siege. They just wont be able to make an instant level 30 to play on them. I think you secretly enjoy the amount of ranged on the server.
As long as there will be a reason to flood the server with ranged even more when it is already flooded with it, I will not be happy. If they have no reason to go ranged STF then they won't do it. This flexibility makes it very clear when there is an issue. which is a good thing because it tends to make it fixed faster.
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Anyone denying this play a few hours in the afternoon and evening on EU1 as infantry, especially shieldless infantry (which was quite common in the Middle-Ages).
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I play like this:
- Are there many archers online, I play with my shield character
- If there are more horses and / or AGI whores Infantry, then I come with my archers
- And when there are many Player have a shield, I play with my two-handed character or with shield
It's like rock paper scissors!
http://imgur.com/2tXxPC8 (http://imgur.com/2tXxPC8)
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And archer suggesting to "re-balance" archer and give "serious nerfs" to the other ranged classes while also classing infantry and cavalry as overpowered. Not biased at all :lol:
just what I thought, hahaha :mrgreen:
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I play like this:
- Are there many archers online, I play with my shield character
- If there are more horses and / or AGI whores Infantry, then I come with my archers
- And when there are many Player have a shield, I play with my two-handed character or with
Well it's just that I don't want to be playing with my shield 24/7[/list]
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I play like this:
- Are there many archers online, I play with my shield character
- If there are more horses and / or AGI whores Infantry, then I come with my archers
- And when there are many Player have a shield, I play with my two-handed character or with shield
It's like rock paper scissors!
http://imgur.com/2tXxPC8 (http://imgur.com/2tXxPC8)
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Implying using a shielder character is better than archer or xbow when there are many ranged online
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Implying using a shielder character is better than archer or xbow when there are many ranged online
...It is
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...It is
In what way ? A shield isn't much use when you get shot left and right yet need to come closer to be effective.
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well just today I respecced my alt which I use to retire and sell LP's to an archer (I played 2h/pole with him) it was just too much
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Peoples have no idea how accurate that is... and funny
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I retired to shielder last weekend. I got so annoyed i had to do it.
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if you want your beloved game back, remove STF.
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As long as there will be a reason to flood the server with ranged even more when it is already flooded with it, I will not be happy. If they have no reason to go ranged STF then they won't do it. This flexibility makes it very clear when there is an issue. which is a good thing because it tends to make it fixed faster.
Translation: Ranged must be made so useless that nobody wants to play it, nothing less is acceptable :rolleyes:
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All I want are the unloomed bows to be reverted and maybe Rumblood's idea about STF's. People who suck just QQ'd so hard about unloomed bows being bad that they got it! I used unloomed bows and it was so easy, people on their first, second, or third gen doing archery were ok. Typical cRPG balance though.
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Translation: Ranged must be made so useless that nobody wants to play it, nothing less is acceptable :rolleyes:
It's not about useless it's about basic population dynamics.
Ranged must work in a way that makes people play it when there are many natural prey to ranged on the server : shieldless inf mostly.
And it must also be made in a way that when there is many ranged around, the best choice is not to bring your own ranged alt. But currently it clearly is.
Right now there are so many ranged that it attracts nothing but more ranged, hence why the servers are depopulating with everything else. It's not about making ranged useless as a whole, but making it less useful than other classes when the amount of ranged on the server is already too high, just as people get pikes to deal with cav stacks, heavy weapons and shield breakers to deal with shielders, and ranged to deal with other infantry. Classes that are not ranged are easily dealt with and actually detrimental to a team when there is too much of them. This is the reason a team full of 2h or full of cav or full of shielders it hardly a problem for the enemy team, as 2h and shielders have rather strong hard counters, and cav is generally useless unless when the enemy is distracted by other units.
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if you want your beloved game back, remove STF.
at least for eu1, eu2 and strat fights.
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None.
That is all.
Heard servers were just restarted, I bet this isn't still true. :twisted:
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It's not about useless it's about basic population dynamics.
Ranged must work in a way that makes people play it when there are many natural prey to ranged on the server : shieldless inf mostly.
And it must also be made in a way that when there is many ranged around, the best choice is not to bring your own ranged alt. But currently it clearly is.
Right now there are so many ranged that it attracts nothing but more ranged, hence why the servers are depopulating with everything else. It's not about making ranged useless as a whole, but making it less useful than other classes when the amount of ranged on the server is already too high, just as people get pikes to deal with cav stacks, heavy weapons and shield breakers to deal with shielders, and ranged to deal with other infantry. Classes that are not ranged are easily dealt with and actually detrimental to a team when there is too much of them. This is the reason a team full of 2h or full of cav or full of shielders it hardly a problem for the enemy team, as 2h and shielders have rather strong hard counters, and cav is generally useless unless when the enemy is distracted by other units.
You've stated what you see to be a problem. Now what is your solution to what you are complaining of? (Bear in mind, I prefer to be the ONLY player using my class, but that just isn't going to happen)